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I injected 5mg of test suspension then 5mg of test cypionate.

I think I'm going to have to find a TRT dose no questions asked. And run freddds protocol in full beginning with methylb12 carnitine and calcium next to methylfolate.

I believe I cannot absorb calcium due to low estrogen which is why copper helped for a bit there it was getting me to estrogen and calcium but copper isnt an option with my issues. Liver isues specficialy.

Cannot believe how bad things are they are worst of the worst my head is dissolving very badly. There is no way out of this.

I needed help when I needed help and that was in 2023 when i first began dying.

It is over. I know its over. My hippocampus was 4% of average human being a year ago. Its way too late. Like WAYYYY too late. I can't handle it anymore knowing how close I was on so many occasions but was missing something.

Heck 2017-2018 I was cured and until mid 2020 I was really solid for a long time.

Its over now my life is finished the TRT has zero fucking chance,
 

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Bloodwork is attached on the last post on last page
 

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I read it. Makes sense you feel like shit lol. Low T like that by itself can make you feel crappy. Do you eat a low calorie diet or no?
 

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I read it. Makes sense you feel like shit lol. Low T like that by itself can make you feel crappy. Do you eat a low calorie diet or no?
No. The glutamate and PTH are what stand out most.

Everything is telling me 11 keto dht and iodine as the main sources of fueling the hormones the worst thing possible here.

That said as b12 and Carnitine both go in (need to happen) I badly need androgen support. The only way I’ve ever dropped fluoride is with androgen support.

With that I have 3 options but really two here…

Long term TRT freddds way. I’d rather not…

Or get back to fall. Dhea, 7 keto dhea, 11 keto dht, or replace the 11 k dht with androsterone

3rd option is test suspension.

The best I felt was on the dhea / dht approach and my labs improved immensely with that approach.

I cannot believe what I did this last month with 11 keto dht + iodine. I wanted to quit yesterday. I tried to work and I was in torture all day. Realize carnitine b12 seriously need androgen support. We’re just making the estrogen issues caused by 11 keto dht worse.

I think I’m gonna get off the TRT. Move to dhea and andro . Potentially 11 keto dht/ test suspension. While dropping the carnitine dose. And calcium to more normal dose .
 

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You have T levels of a grandpa even worse than that lol. Probably because your metabolic rate is slow (you have high cholesterol for example means it doesn't even convert to hormones). Could be all types of crap that causes it of course.
 

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Isn't your PTH low because you have slow metabolism? Your body wants more thyroid not anti thyroid (PTH)

I believe the low PTH is low estrogen. 11 keto dht standalone destroyed estrogen.

The worst times of the last year were with low e2 . I’ve never seen PTH before . But that’s probably what happens, no e2 can’t absorb calcium and PTH dies.
 

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You have T levels of a grandpa even worse than that lol. Probably because your metabolic rate is slow (you have high cholesterol for example means it doesn't even convert to hormones). Could be all types of crap that causes it of course.
Not converting cholesterol to preg etc. No bioavaialbke copper for dhea.

The lack of bio-available copper is from the fluoride in excess in body. Pineal gland in brain cannot receive copper.

The plan is move fluoride out.
 

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Dumping copper but in a safe tolerable way from throwing hormones in the other day.

I’d like to work with andro dhea 7 keto dhea. It just seems safest. Maybe a little test suspension every 3 days. Maybe 11 keto dht. I really would like to stay away from trt but understand it is an option I have to leave on the table.

We have to see what pulled my fluoride from the tissues in the last year since religiously following oligoscan. Fluoride in the tissues I believe is killing my copper transport so methylation goes down and can’t make melatonin causing the hippocampus to shrink.

Every time I made progesss on fluoride it was with androgen. BUT there was time period on androgen test suspension where it went back up. This was when I stopped carnitine.

I think fat metabolism with carnitine plays a big role in allowing body to clear fluoride from tissues. It’s clear to me in terms of nutrients b12 carnitine calcium zinc maybe lithium chromium need to lead the way.

I definitely feel I caught the worst that was happening to me by draining e2 this last month with 11 keto dht and iodine . This was the worst month I’ve possibly ever had with that approach.

Brain mri Monday. That’s going to be interesting.
 

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So going fwd sui n grok Ai to orgnz thoughts esp in regards to health but also work and studies.


Game changer for ADHD honestly and entrepreneurship.

Same w managing when I’ll change to a dif protocols (mostly for hEDS).

That is the tech stuff im using.

Could help u too bro
Or even Chatgpt paid vsn.
Possibly deepseek as well.
 

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What if you help your body by using peptides and/or bioregulators? Things like cerebrolysin, cortexin, epitalon, endoluten, thymogen alpha 1, vesugen, cerluten... Maybe could be useful. For pineal gland there's epitalon and endoluten...

Stuff like this is expensive af but potentially could be helpful ... Hypotalen – Hypothalamus Peptide Bioregulator - available in 30 & 60 capsules
Maybe especially if you combine it with ghk-cu

Focusing on metabolism right now. I see metabolism for what it is. Years and years of learning but it really is simple and can be taught in a college course.

With that, I FINALLY have b6 active. Oligoscan shows b6 going way up with cadmium dropping the most it’s ever dropped. Lowest it’s ever been. B6 = cysteine= cadmium killer. What I’ve been looking for is b6 for months now.

I needed b12 carnitine and it seems something to keep hormones up. Iodine and 11 keto dht but more so iodine was deadly on estrogen. No estrogen body can’t absorb calcium and can’t use b12.

Fluoride dropped too from 31 to 26 in only a few days. I’ve been saying active b6 is key to everything but who knew that b6 really starts with methyl b12 is how I’m seeing it.

The problem here is hormones . How to feed. I like dhea andro 7 keto dhea and 11 keto dht as best ways to feed with drops of iodine 25mcg every day. But I did test cypionate 3 days ago and it’s gonna be in my system for a solid 7-10 days due to long half life. My balls shrunk smh.

I felt I needed test yesterday and 5 mg of test suspension (quick 4 hour half life) was awesome no other way to put it . I dont want to use this stuff too often as it turns metabolism on a bit too hard . But it might be needed ever 2-4 days .

I do think the the fluoride is the issue . I think when it comes down in oligoscan things will change for the better. So pineal gland can work for copper transport.

Feeling a bit more confident and relieved. Seeing the cadmium dropping how much it dropped. Seeing b6 finally get up. And seeing fluoride make that drop I haven’t seen in a while.

A E C metabolism is not good right now and that’s a problem they’re high and not being used. D and chromium aren’t good either.

But both calcium and lithium dropping (while feeding them) means Metabilsim is on and b6 is the key to that clearly.
 

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Methionine retains chromium. Hence the low chromium in all these men on the born free protocol oligoscans.

Hence why methyl b12 alllwed me to eat an icre cream last night with zero repercussions.

Complete neurological miserableness the last 24 hours.

Vitamin C + coffee enemas made me dump copper into a terrain that just cannot handle it.

Need E and A metabolism to handle copper dumping . E and A metabolism reliant on VHL which is methionine tyrosine at its core assuming some iodine lithium zinc calcium go in with methyl b12 and 11 keto dht .

I’m sure sea water and sodium sulfate fit in here. Doing foot baths with both still pretty regularly.

Very down. Can’t believe how simple this all was
Hey there, what are your thoughts on the born free protocol in general?

Is the methyl b12 good for you because it's a methyl donor?

In the protocol he states something about wrong oligoscan reads if the value is above a certain point see below. What are your thoughts on that?

"NB. According to the 2024 Oligoscan practitioner's guide*, due to an unusual quirk in methodology / reporting, highly elevated minerals (to the right of our vertical blue line / upper threshold in the image below and usually indicated as yellow or red bar) need to be re-interpreted as highly deficient."

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I’m actually in the exact same place I’ve been working on for about 6 months now.

I’m not all over the place. People can’t understand what I write the same way people couldn’t understand gbold way back when cuz the biochemistry part is way more advanced than your average sick person can understand.

I have a friend who blew his brains out with a gun the other day. Gone. He wouldn’t listen to me he made tons of progress with thyroid and I told him he needs to fix thyroid through body chemistry now.

Ultimately body chemistry allows sugar metabolism to fmn for b6 activity. This is what I’ve been working on for awhile and is depicted by the low chromium in oligoscan.

Tons of men with neuro illness end up with low chromium in Oligo high boron. Most in this body chemistry have higher cadmium . As body needs cysteine to control cadmium.

Push thyroid with low b6 activity and you just produce superoxide without cysteine and boom you die.

Call me out for blaming gbold. I’m not blaming gbold. I’m angry at tons of people who got in my way after my recovery in 2017/2018. And hydrogen water was one of them a huge step to my healths failures as I actually can see the science behind what happened now.

I’m mad at my country’s authorities for putting fluoride in the water as that is huge piece here I’m seeing in the low chromium high boron body chemistry.

I’m sorry if you can’t understand my writing. But I’m doing what I’m doing and not taking a step back as my brain is going into Parkinson’s / dementia rapidly due to the anemia i have from poor GTP production for far too long.

GTP is the key to A metabolism for ceruloplasmin. B6 activity (cysteine) allows the cell to receive sugar for ATP to GTP .
You write a lot about the importance of cysteine. Are you a fan of cycling NAC (N-Acetyl-L-Cystein) then?
 

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Hey there, what are your thoughts on the born free protocol in general?

Is the methyl b12 good for you because it's a methyl donor?

In the protocol he states something about wrong oligoscan reads if the value is above a certain point see below. What are your thoughts on that?

"NB. According to the 2024 Oligoscan practitioner's guide*, due to an unusual quirk in methodology / reporting, highly elevated minerals (to the right of our vertical blue line / upper threshold in the image below and usually indicated as yellow or red bar) need to be re-interpreted as highly deficient."

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The guy has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. He’s clueless. A clown in this world nothing less. Lost.

I don’t care if you got a lot of people using oligoscan which is an awesome test. When you talk that blasphemy and fictionhood you’re lost.

If a mineral is high it’s not being used cuz you not producing the element that utilizes these minerals.

Like fluoride needs hydrogen and carbon to pulled from tissues reliant on b12 utilization and b6 activation. Which are reliant on fad and fmn.

Boron needs carbon (b6/fmn). Copper zinc need histidine which is reliant on a lot.

When people don’t realize we are mostly reliant on enzyme systems that create amino acids which are the keys to glutathione and electrolyte repletion, we get lost in this world.

I might be dying cuz of people that were lost. I’m angry about it. This above is an example of someone who can’t read an oligoscan.
 

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You write a lot about the importance of cysteine. Are you a fan of cycling NAC (N-Acetyl-L-Cystein) then?

Not really. It can be great depending on situation. Need to keep b6 active so you’re making cysteine. That’s literally the common goal for 90% of the chronically ill. B6 activation issues.
 

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The guy has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. He’s clueless. A clown in this world nothing less. Lost.

I don’t care if you got a lot of people using oligoscan which is an awesome test. When you talk that blasphemy and fictionhood you’re lost.

If a mineral is high it’s not being used cuz you not producing the element that utilizes these minerals.

Like fluoride needs hydrogen and carbon to pulled from tissues reliant on b12 utilization and b6 activation. Which are reliant on fad and fmn.

Boron needs carbon (b6/fmn). Copper zinc need histidine which is reliant on a lot.

When people don’t realize we are mostly reliant on enzyme systems that create amino acids which are the keys to glutathione and electrolyte repletion, we get lost in this world.

I might be dying cuz of people that were lost. I’m angry about it. This above is an example of someone who can’t read an oligoscan.
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People wanna talk vitamins and minerwks but the only thing we are making that matter here are aminos and aminos should be our biggest concerns.

Yes vitamins and minerals are the keys to making aminos but if you don’t understand what’s really happening behind the scenes— enzymes, methylation, Krebs, glycolysis electron transport chain, hormones … you’re just talking through your ass.

Like ArL/ tei people with egos who have no idea that the calcium they’re giving is helping b12 usage and folate recycling. The zinc is activating b6 moving homocysteine to cysteine.

They wanna talk “it raises your sodium it lower your potassium”. Sure that’s important stuff.

But if you really wanna fix a person you fix methylation. And yes mineral balancing does that. But many need to go beyond the minerals to look at aminos and what influences the aminos needed to make methylation run.
 

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People wanna talk vitamins and minerwks but the only thing we are making that matter here are aminos and aminos should be our biggest concerns.

Yes vitamins and minerals are the keys to making aminos but if you don’t understand what’s really happening behind the scenes— enzymes, methylation, Krebs, glycolysis electron transport chain, hormones … you’re just talking through your ass.

Like ArL/ tei people with egos who have no idea that the calcium they’re giving is helping b12 usage and folate recycling. The zinc is activating b6 moving homocysteine to cysteine.

They wanna talk “it raises your sodium it lower your potassium”. Sure that’s important stuff.

But if you really wanna fix a person you fix methylation. And yes mineral balancing does that. But many need to go beyond the minerals to look at aminos and what influences the aminos needed to make methylation run.
a question because I saw you mention calcium here: how much does the form of calcium (calcium citrate, lactate, lysinate, orotate, hydroxyapatite, chloride, gluconate etc.) matter? do different situations call for different form of calcium? let's say HTMA shows 4 lows ... would calcium malate or hydroxyapatite be worse than orotate or lactate? does it really matter that much?
 

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a question because I saw you mention calcium here: how much does the form of calcium (calcium citrate, lactate, lysinate, orotate, hydroxyapatite, chloride, gluconate etc.) matter? do different situations call for different form of calcium? let's say HTMA shows 4 lows ... would calcium malate or hydroxyapatite be worse than orotate or lactate? does it really matter that much?
I really don’t know. Malate speeds me up too much.

I use carbonate and citrate. The oyster shell calcium is a carbonate in Amazon and really cheap .