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[RebelWithACause]

What do you notice on this stuff? Reta. Less hunger?

 

[bruschi11]

What do you notice on this stuff? Reta. Less hunger?

Reta : more about fat oxidation through glucagon agonism. I don’t lose much hunger on it to be honest I do get a problem on it craving sugar.

Tirz : strongly controls hunger makes iron available but too hard at times and you really can’t control the iron dumping it’s similar to chromium b1 both in excess.

Tirz is glp1 gip. Ozempic was glp1 and is nothing compared to Tirz in studies. So the gip which focuses on insulin might be really big.

Reta is glp1 gip glucagon::: That said Reta feels nothing like Tirz . The glucagon component must be extremely powerful.

I’m upset my 6 weeks are up. I didn’t accomplish much 11 lbs . I’m starting to lose weight again. But it’s very clearly and electrolyte depleting and strong fat oxidation approach. You can’t do that for more than 6 weeks in my body chemistry unless electrolytes and nutritients are pushing the fat oxidation.

Thats what I’m shooting for with freddds protocol as I shift back to that .

Essentially this stuff does the opposite of electrolyte protocol and what Ray peat desire lol. While the whole world is going crazy about them. They are steroids to be cycled and it’s very sad most people are going to be going on these indefinitely.

In 4-6 weeks I am considering another cycle. But I will go into it with much different mindset.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yea I saw some guys who used it with some TRT. Some of them looked fine others looked really gaunt. Not sure why. Seems some people got more nutritionally depleted.

 

[bruschi11]

Yea I saw some guys who used it with some TRT. Some of them looked fine others looked really gaunt. Not sure why. Seems some people got more nutritionally depleted.

I could see these drugs really fucking up lives. I think tirzepetide might kill my dad. He won’t listen to me it doesn’t matter.

His potassium went from really good to bad as mine in oligoscan. His b6 is dead. Like DEAD b6. The only other person I know with b6 like that is my family friend with Parkinson’s

These do seem to be the main problems. My cousins potassium didn’t take a hit on Reta but his b6 went from incredible to decent.

My b6 is crawling back up to decency same with folate. I think the Reta needed the Tirz soooo bad the other day .

Cagrilitide becomes interesting now. It is mainly for appetite. I have ordered some. Also melanotan 2. The best summer of my life 2013 I was casually taking melanotan carnitine gh peptides. Had no idea what I was doing but got in great shape and health. Girls fuckin loved me. My body comp was incredible the tan with it haha. I haven’t cared about looks for a long time but I did look good.

I wish I pulled a good quality hoe out of the bar who made life fun. I found a girl that summer that just was not fun and settled with her for a bit but the health problems the folllowing year broke us up thank god.

It’s not fair. I wish I was a meathead back then. I got into Hormones with doctors. Ended up on TRT Led to finasteride and ruined my life. It wasn’t the fin tho. I recovered mostly. It was the Lyme relapse —-> antibiotic damage—> literally diabetes type metabolic syndrome on the spot to begin 2019. Fucking sucks.

I wish I just played around with peptides and found nutritional balancing in the mid 2010s. I can’t get over what happened to my life smh.

 

[bruschi11]

I think the right dosing process really is something like : Reta day1 , Tirz 2, 3 off 4 off. Reta day 5 Tirz day 6. 7/8 off. And repeat .

Today would be day 4. Tomorrow morning I will get bloods.

I am strongly considering one more injection of each in next two days. Try to end this cycle on a good note so I have confidence about it if and when I want to do it again. Also that will give me time for the cagrlitide and mt2 to show up. That be a full 6 week cycle too.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I could see these drugs really fucking up lives. I think tirzepetide might kill my dad. He won’t listen to me it doesn’t matter.

His potassium went from really good to bad as mine in oligoscan. His b6 is dead. Like DEAD b6. The only other person I know with b6 like that is my family friend with Parkinson’s

These do seem to be the main problems. My cousins potassium didn’t take a hit on Reta but his b6 went from incredible to decent.

My b6 is crawling back up to decency same with folate. I think the Reta needed the Tirz soooo bad the other day .

Cagrilitide becomes interesting now. It is mainly for appetite. I have ordered some. Also melanotan 2. The best summer of my life 2013 I was casually taking melanotan carnitine gh peptides. Had no idea what I was doing but got in great shape and health. Girls fuckin loved me. My body comp was incredible the tan with it haha. I haven’t cared about looks for a long time but I did look good.

I wish I pulled a good quality hoe out of the bar who made life fun. I found a girl that summer that just was not fun and settled with her for a bit but the health problems the folllowing year broke us up thank god.

It’s not fair. I wish I was a meathead back then. I got into Hormones with doctors. Ended up on TRT Led to finasteride and ruined my life. It wasn’t the fin tho. I recovered mostly. It was the Lyme relapse —-> antibiotic damage—> literally diabetes type metabolic syndrome on the spot to begin 2019. Fucking sucks.

I wish I just played around with peptides and found nutritional balancing in the mid 2010s. I can’t get over what happened to my life smh.

It sucks to go from doing good to going in the gutter yup. I experienced this too. I went from relatively popular guy to recluse hermit. Some people didn't understand it they could not comprehend what happened to me. And it's hard to explain I never met someone like that either in my life. Except on this forum and PFS circles.

I don't have a hard time to accept it now but for a few years in PFS I got extremely angry and frustrated by this fact. I started to hate people also for treating me badly while I was in this state. I wanted to live life but I couldn't. I was mid 20s and I was living like an 80 year old just to survive. My mind was normal in a way, I had logic thoughts, but I had no energy nothing. So you just are forced to live a slow life and also a lonely life but you experience it with full clarity instead of a slump. This was hard to deal with.

Now I am better but I wouldn't say I ever got back to the heights I was on back then. I don't have PFS. But still have health problems very obvious to me even after detoxing a lot. Anyways I get what you go through kind of even though we have different issues. It's frustrating to have this decline

 

[MNK99]

im like anti popular on purpose. shd be really popular but ppl fking disgust me the disgusting little piglets that walk upright that they are.

ppl fk me over. then say hey mnk date more...
idiots.

i reject tons of chicks simply bc they have too many gay male frds and fat wmn were near them.
i also don't like ppl w too hi/low voices and ppl that smile too much.

the happy go lucky douchebags. i need someone INTENSE like me. or super emotionally stable. also like me.

I'll read the rest soon.

yes it sucks going from hero to zero agn tho the latter is temporarily and really fk what ev1 else thinks.
they are not paying your bills.

all the pretty girls want to be me.
all the "alpha males" want to be inside me (bc they're homosexuals).

I only date models
and some cougars (modelesque women), if they pay my bills.

Hoes made me cry at 21 now I just have 2000 yard stares.... ill work on my CPTSD.
and my fking autism i guess.

I'm saving my family from the hells of upper middle class.

In the bible they say what comes around goes around.
So I became a whale.
(soon enuff, paying 5000 to some scumbag cybersec punk in toronto).

 

[ruprmurdoch]

im like anti popular on purpose. shd be really popular but ppl fking disgust me the disgusting little piglets that walk upright that they are.

ppl fk me over. then say hey mnk date more...
idiots.

i reject tons of chicks simply bc they have too many gay male frds and fat wmn were near them.
i also don't like ppl w too hi/low voices and ppl that smile too much.

the happy go lucky douchebags. i need someone INTENSE like me. or super emotionally stable. also like me.

I'll read the rest soon.

yes it sucks going from hero to zero agn tho the latter is temporarily and really fk what ev1 else thinks.
they are not paying your bills.

all the pretty girls want to be me.
all the "alpha males" want to be inside me (bc they're homosexuals).

I only date models
and some cougars (modelesque women), if they pay my bills.

Hoes made me cry at 21 now I just have 2000 yard stares.... ill work on my CPTSD.
and my fking autism i guess.

I'm saving my family from the hells of upper middle class.

In the bible they say what comes around goes around.
So I became a whale.
(soon enuff, paying 5000 to some scumbag cybersec punk in toronto).

would You reccomend in what we should invest our money ?

 

[MNK99]

listen ill make a real post later... but i slept i think 18hrs? / 5days maybe a bit more. but 10 till i slept 11am to 4am... so 17 i guess.
--26-30h now in 6 days, thank god. My frd really fucked me over, with choosing such expensive ways to get things done, for the hedge fund.
--oil and the other stuff, the hedge fund will pay but ya i mean bear mkt and like i mean i could have worked on my shyness, anxiety, depresn, cptsd, disability** (ffs), and law school, but it'll be ok in the end.

I shall make on my log or the old markets/crypto log. mostly DCA into crypto (BTC, fk crypto). and ya short... all for now sort of.
tho i did well on longs, needed em as part of 400k into this hedgefund. been a bitch. keep in mind like even if this all wrks out, and is like 600k ish for 20 last yrs.. i mean i did have a couple yrs unpaid and most of my 20s. not as cool as it sounds. rather be a soap star. and do creative work. rather write. doing those too but one mess at a time. gold, btc... silver soon... and short us market... and short crypto and btc for now basically....
noobs shdnt do most of that longing/shorting... but many noobs do start w futures, but it's for v hi iq, ruthless ppl. not for 99.99% of ppl.

 

[bruschi11]

Starting to lose weight pretty quickly again. Lithium was definitely a piece to that but haven’t taken since. I just feel like I have to be careful with it every 2-3 days due to inositol concerns.

That said now system seems to be turning on after a longer fast for these peps (like it’s tough to fast until noon and I did it today). But post fast. It seems combo of b12 inositol egcg hit me.

I took reta this morning down to .3mg. Next dose I’ll try .15 and I’m hoping that will be my last dose of Reta in 4 days from now.

I’m starting to gain confidence I can heal with the help of these peps now. But only in the way I talked about. In cycles.

I think when I get off. Inositol might be the piece added to my nutrient plan that is really needed and it might need to be higher dose

 

[MNK99]

sometimes it defs makes me gain weight.
I don't really want to use it but it helps some rage/agitation with AuDHD to be honest and some major depresn... and anxiety of course.

Lithium I mean.
No doubt it can stall weight loss. Mostly, just bc it is a salt. It is a good medicine tho. no doubt it can cause weight gain/ slow weight loss.

I am down 20lbs usually 22-24 and up 5-6lbs lean mass, shd be 25 and 8-10lbs but whatever, most is disability reasons. Lith can slow things tho.
I mean tons of ppl on psyche meds, gain weight. less so the mineral but yeah it shdn't be that huge a deal with major fat to lose tbh.

It is great for anxiety and depresn tho, but keep it simple.. 2-3meds max ideally. I am microdosing sort of ... 5-6things but mostly to prevent dislocations, some rage and anxiety and depresn or lots of those last 3 ... lith does do wonders. I am trying gabapentin too.

If not for insane side effects and actually being a hyperresponder of many meds (acc to me and doctors), then... ya I mean certain things would be safer. Lamictal and dex, id be married and i guess test cream. To any number of tens. But soon enuff.


It can be done, but I'll make sure im rich as fk and liquid first and go see about some women from pre lockdown and recent yrs, as well as... ya stabilize my joint instability and work on my anxiety/depresn and CPTSD.


Weight loss peptides... and like eating rite shd help. Walking when u can. Some strength training.
I have like 40-50 subluxations and dislocations a week, prolly twice that... w no sleep. And ya it cd be worse, many wmn w EDS have that a day or 2.. and dislocations but the ADHD, autism, depresn, anxiety is often worse for hEDS than it is for other types of EDS. but ya they're all a bitch at times. Possibly, the neuropsychiatric parts the ADHD/anxiety and the like are worse for men with conditions such as mine.

Larger post on my log bro @bruschi11. some is relevant to you.