Finasteride 'crash' while still on the drug?

[Kjbigman]

Is this possible?

I had what I swear must have been a crash last summer. Fast forward 8 months or so, still on the drug, but still feel fucked post crash. My symptoms during the first crash was first, a mysterious "viral" illness. All kinds of viral symptoms. Then, I had a disorienting de-personalization experience where I felt nothing whatsoever, just removed. Then, after this, itchy skin and then muscle twitches that lasted for about a month and a half. I thought I had ALS and was going to die at any moment. I still think sometimes I have multiple sclerosis. Now I just get episodes where my libido/concentration tanks and I feel like I'm zoned/drugged out all the time. I can't work, focus, or have energy to do anything. I feel like I'm barely respirating. I barely have any emotions anymore. When I come back online, all I feel is self-consciousness or nervousness. Otherwise, nothing.

However, the irony is I still take finasteride to avoid the "crash." But have I already crashed?

 

[Helen]

Is this possible?

I had what I swear must have been a crash last summer. Fast forward 8 months or so, still on the drug, but still feel fucked post crash. My symptoms during the first crash was first, a mysterious "viral" illness. All kinds of viral symptoms. Then, I had a disorienting de-personalization experience where I felt nothing whatsoever, just removed. Then, after this, itchy skin and then muscle twitches that lasted for about a month and a half. I thought I had ALS and was going to die at any moment. I still think sometimes I have multiple sclerosis. Now I just get episodes where my libido/concentration tanks and I feel like I'm zoned/drugged out all the time. I can't work, focus, or have energy to do anything. I feel like I'm barely respirating. I barely have any emotions anymore. When I come back online, all I feel is self-consciousness or nervousness. Otherwise, nothing.

However, the irony is I still take finasteride to avoid the "crash." But have I already crashed?

we have about 50/50 , some crash on fin , some when coming off.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Is this possible?

I had what I swear must have been a crash last summer. Fast forward 8 months or so, still on the drug, but still feel fucked post crash. My symptoms during the first crash was first, a mysterious "viral" illness. All kinds of viral symptoms. Then, I had a disorienting de-personalization experience where I felt nothing whatsoever, just removed. Then, after this, itchy skin and then muscle twitches that lasted for about a month and a half. I thought I had ALS and was going to die at any moment. I still think sometimes I have multiple sclerosis. Now I just get episodes where my libido/concentration tanks and I feel like I'm zoned/drugged out all the time. I can't work, focus, or have energy to do anything. I feel like I'm barely respirating. I barely have any emotions anymore. When I come back online, all I feel is self-consciousness or nervousness. Otherwise, nothing.

However, the irony is I still take finasteride to avoid the "crash." But have I already crashed?

Could very well be. I had a stressful event and after that I crashed while on finasteride. Were you highly stressed?

I would just come off the drug. It is not worth it living like that. I can guarantee you. Even hair does not make it worth it. You are living like a subhuman at that point if you feel that bad. I know I did.

I stayed on it as well. Eventhough I felt like absolute trash. But even before the crash I felt bad but I could still function.

You might get lucky and get off without a scratch - except maybe hairloss.

 

[brix]

I crashed within 2 weeks of starting fin. Hyper sexuality followed by weak erections, watery semen, no libido, weight gain, and brain fog.

 

[Kjbigman]

Could very well be. I had a stressful event and after that I crashed while on finasteride. Were you highly stressed?

I would just come off the drug. It is not worth it living like that. I can guarantee you. Even hair does not make it worth it.

You might get lucky and get off without a scratch - except maybe hairloss.

Yes I was highly stressed! Crazy how we all have such similar experiences. I have been thinking up ways to go off of it to minimize damage for a while now. I considered a long taper. I also considered hopping on dutasteride, to balance out the reductases. But I don't know...also, I am thinking of potentially waiting to get my blood tests while on FIN versus testing AFTER fin. But it's so bad recently, I don't know how much longer I can stand this.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yes I was highly stressed! Crazy how we all have such similar experiences. I have been thinking up ways to go off of it to minimize damage for a while now. I considered a long taper. I also considered hopping on dutasteride, to balance out the reductases. But I don't know...also, I am thinking of potentially waiting to get my blood tests while on FIN versus testing AFTER fin. But it's so bad recently, I don't know how much longer I can stand this.

Yes get bloodwork while on it.

Plus when you get off it: Slowly taper the dosage.

It is not worth it living like that. You might not see how bad you are but once you feel a bit better you will see it.

Like I said maybe you are lucky and you get off it without a scratch. Worth to try it.

I also kept taking it but it did not even work anymore. When I stopped the finasteride I did not even feel much different when I was on it. Maybe a bit more anxious for a while and my sleep was fucked up.

 

[Kjbigman]

So essentially, once you crashed while on the drug, the drug lost its efficacy and you basically couldn't tell a difference anymore? I wonder if this happened for me. Because right after the crash I began to get sick again...I haven't noticed much hair loss but perhaps a little bit more. So, I wonder if going off the drug, I would just be the same, like you were.

 

[TubZy]

Definitely possible to crash while on and it even gets worse when you cease it totally . What happened to me basically

 

[barbaar]

Definitely possible to crash while on and it even gets worse when you cease it totally . What happened to me basically

Same for me but with SSRI instead of fin

 

[Chapman]

I crashed while on it as well, it definitely can happen- however I'd been off it for a few years prior. The lads are right on here, get off it, it makes you a pussy in my opinion. This male beauty shit should never of been allowed in the first place.

 

[Walker]

I crashed while on Saw Palmetto. Came off, slowly got a little better off the course of a few weeks, then had another crash that was the big daddy in late February 2016.

 

[Ocguy]

Yes I was highly stressed! Crazy how we all have such similar experiences. I have been thinking up ways to go off of it to minimize damage for a while now. I considered a long taper. I also considered hopping on dutasteride, to balance out the reductases. But I don't know...also, I am thinking of potentially waiting to get my blood tests while on FIN versus testing AFTER fin. But it's so bad recently, I don't know how much longer I can stand this.

DUT to balance 5ars? DUT is stronger than fin.. it blocks 90 percent dht via 5ar2 inhibition vs 65 percent on fin.. And DUT has the added kicker of blocking 5ar1.. there is no balancing anything.. totally don't understand your reasoning.

Balancing by shutting it all down? I think that's crazy talk.. u think brain fog is bad now?
U have no idea the absolute torture and death u can feel inside if u react poorly to dut. Frankly, I don't understand how you wouldn't

 

[Kjbigman]

@Helen would you like to weigh in? I read in one of your posts a theory of 5a-reductase "balancing" but didn't quite understand it. In any case, I would go on dutasteride for a short while if it somehow meant avoiding longer term consequences.


At the moment idk what this feeling is. I guess it's brain fog. But it feels like a mind-heaviness. and translates to actual physical lethargy...hard to note what is due to finasteride and what is due to other potential issues...

 

[Ocguy]

@Helen would you like to weigh in? I read in one of your posts a theory of 5a-reductase "balancing" but didn't quite understand it. In any case, I would go on dutasteride for a short while if it somehow meant avoiding longer term consequences.


At the moment idk what this feeling is. I guess it's brain fog. But it feels like a mind-heaviness. and translates to actual physical lethargy...hard to note what is due to finasteride and what is due to other potential issues...

Yea, like a wet blanket over your brain.. I know.. it's part of it.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Dutasteride has a long half life though so for weaning off it might be good.

 

[Minime]

I crashed immediately on the first Propecia pill after being off of the drug for a few months. Actually, it was a generic version of Propecia. Took it at night and awoke the next morning in full crash mode. Awful. Life has been garbage ever since.

 

[Ocguy]

I crashed immediately on the first Propecia pill after being off of the drug for a few months. Actually, it was a generic version of Propecia. Took it at night and awoke the next morning in full crash mode. Awful. Life has been garbage ever since.

Yea, this what bothers me about the healing process.. I can appreciate the fact we had some imbalances prior, but to go from felling great to death in one day doesn't make sense that it threw mineral levels out of whack immediately.. it seems like that would happen months, years after the incident

 

[hairsuit]

Crashed while on the drug, kept taking it (because I didn’t realize it was Fin causing it), no sexual sides, all mental and emotional. Powered through and it went away in a year. Quit the drug Year’s later and crashed again much worse than before, sexual sides included this time. Absolutely happens while still taking the drug, just worse when you stop.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yea, this what bothers me about the healing process.. I can appreciate the fact we had some imbalances prior, but to go from felling great to death in one day doesn't make sense that it threw mineral levels out of whack immediately.. it seems like that would happen months, years after the incident

I think Propecia is just a catalyst. So you are already in a "shaky environment" and then you add Propecia and it goes to shit completely.

 

[Continuous Heal]

Was using consistently for 7 years without issue. Entered a stressful period, and crashed. Continued using for months after the crash.