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[bruschi11]

It ain’t all dead. There’s a few of us here talking quite a bit for awhile now.

I really don’t have any control of the website. I’m not good with the tech and I don’t think I have any control. It’s on Tubzy who hasn’t been here and likely is out there living a nice life not giving the slightest fuck about fad or fat Metabolsim etc. thankfully as he shouldn’t be.

But we are here. If the site goes down. I, wouldn’t want to lose contact with some of you here you know who you are. I would like to bring the talk here someone else. Whether it be the pheonix rising forum or Ray peat forum.

Or maybe I’d create my own forum. But I’m not going public and making myself into a health know it all asshole without some sort of a solid recovery. But we’ll see.

I’m kind of considering making my Twitter bruschi711 (bruschi11 was taken ) and ya know what I’ll do that now. If you guys wanna follow me and have me as contact there. I guess that’s first place to start.

 

[bruschi11]

Ok my twitter is bruschi711 now.

 

[merebalacy]

Do you mind deleting my account here?

 

[bruschi11]

Do you mind deleting my account here?

Did you not read what I wrote? I don’t have any technological control here.

 

[RebelWithACause]

You need something that is not mixed with other stuff in my opinion or you always get useless discussions between different dogmas.

This forum was nice because it allowed certain things and didn't allow stuff that clearly didn't work in the past (Ray Peat's approach to PFS for example). We came from Ray Peat trying all his stuff to fix PFS. Here it was Helen's theories, TEI/ARL and cdsnuts. Same for SwoleSource it was focussed on pure cdsnuts protocol. You either do it or don't if you don't then you find another place.

The discord has a lot of older members incl. TubZy who is a mod there. I was a mod too but lost it I think when I deactivated my account temporarily. Now I can't post because I have to verify my account with phone number which I don't want on that particular account. So it's a way to contact people.

It's also possible to make a new Discord just get the core community in there just for future proof purposes if you ever want to contact them.

Not sure what I have to add to be honest. I posted all my nonsense here already lol. You need a guy who drags the ship with him. Like Helen or cdsnuts did as well. Well it was also TubZy who was like the lifeline.

This forum was interesting because we were testing people's theories and sending our results comparing notes. Now it is more like talking into the abyss. I guess it's also because a good amount of those guys got cured whether from theories here or cdsnuts, or their own protocols. They moved on like Walker noted back then too. Which is good of course.

If there is no reason for people to come together anymore it will disappear. I just think about a lot of the members here from time to time because in those times of hardship you do build a sort of bond. Not a friendship per se but a connection to wonder what the fuck is up with those dudes now. Hoping they would be doing decent at least. That's why I still visit mostly. Plus I try to get my health better but I don't have PFS anymore. For example.

I don't feel connection with people who post on PropeciaHelp or Finasteride Syndrome reddit anymore. It's like living in a different world. Back then I was part of that crowd I thought the same, felt the same, same problems etc. I hope they all recover. But man how much similarities there are with when we were doing this stuff 10 years ago. A lot of people hoping for a magic cure. Same story back then. I am happy to chose following people like Chi, cdsnuts, Helen, members here.

Although I also fell into the trap of thinking the magic 1 pill cure is there. I think it's a human thing.

I'll bookmark your Twitter if something happens I will send you a message at least.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

If Forum helped people, and people leave forum... Fuck'em beacuse they could post at least once/twice per week

 

[bruschi11]

You need something that is not mixed with other stuff in my opinion or you always get useless discussions between different dogmas.

This forum was nice because it allowed certain things and didn't allow stuff that clearly didn't work in the past (Ray Peat's approach to PFS for example). We came from Ray Peat trying all his stuff to fix PFS. Here it was Helen's theories, TEI/ARL and cdsnuts. Same for SwoleSource it was focussed on pure cdsnuts protocol. You either do it or don't if you don't then you find another place.

The discord has a lot of older members incl. TubZy who is a mod there. I was a mod too but lost it I think when I deactivated my account temporarily. Now I can't post because I have to verify my account with phone number which I don't want on that particular account. So it's a way to contact people.

It's also possible to make a new Discord just get the core community in there just for future proof purposes if you ever want to contact them.

Not sure what I have to add to be honest. I posted all my nonsense here already lol. You need a guy who drags the ship with him. Like Helen or cdsnuts did as well. Well it was also TubZy who was like the lifeline.

This forum was interesting because we were testing people's theories and sending our results comparing notes. Now it is more like talking into the abyss. I guess it's also because a good amount of those guys got cured whether from theories here or cdsnuts, or their own protocols. They moved on like Walker noted back then too. Which is good of course.

If there is no reason for people to come together anymore it will disappear. I just think about a lot of the members here from time to time because in those times of hardship you do build a sort of bond. Not a friendship per se but a connection to wonder what the fuck is up with those dudes now. Hoping they would be doing decent at least. That's why I still visit mostly. Plus I try to get my health better but I don't have PFS anymore. For example.

I don't feel connection with people who post on PropeciaHelp or Finasteride Syndrome reddit anymore. It's like living in a different world. Back then I was part of that crowd I thought the same, felt the same, same problems etc. I hope they all recover. But man how much similarities there are with when we were doing this stuff 10 years ago. A lot of people hoping for a magic cure. Same story back then. I am happy to chose following people like Chi, cdsnuts, Helen, members here.

Although I also fell into the trap of thinking the magic 1 pill cure is there. I think it's a human thing.

I'll bookmark your Twitter if something happens I will send you a message at least.

It sucks forum talk really died.

This forum for about two years was awesome. For its time. For 2018-2020 it was great. But in 2016, Shawn Bean said to me- “Dr Mariano was far ahead of his time.”

Mariano’s time was say 2006 to 2012? But you just see how things change so fast.

It’s 2026. Basically anyone with a brain kind of knows these days the key to metabolic health is mitochondrial health a Chris Masterjohn type focus on the electron transport chain ends up bringing us back to minerals vitamins hormones amino acids exercise sleep diet etc.

And everything points to Metabolsim and methylation as the core ultimatums. Which we learned a lot about here. Electron transport chain is ultimately fmn, fad, iron sulfur, zinc copper EOD.

Doctors who think they know things but they don’t… just say “insulin and body fat. Need to lower those.” But then you realize they’re both big pieces in this but people with severe neuro issues can’t function without glucose feeding energy at its core.

So that keto diet and fasting thing all these new age doctors think is the cure to life itself… actually can’t be a huge detriment. Without co2 the body can’t retain chromium and cobalt. The actual issues most of us have with these neuro diseases specifically men.

I wish vitamins A metabolism was a topic. I learned that all in 2024. It led me to my entire plan I use now following freddd etc. Gbolds thing was atp makes iron copper available. But why? Then some said vitamin A did the same thing. And when I took vit A I’d dump too hard and fuck myself up.

This was in 2021 late that year I basically ended my life for good after i got covid I had the worst iron copper dump ever from Vit A .

End of day it really is gtp for b5 for iodine sele/ usage for VHL I see the keys to vit A metabolism. But without electrolyte retention for atp can’t get to gtp. Lot more to it than that. Crazy complex. EVERYTHING IS involved.

 

[RebelWithACause]

If Forum helped people, and people leave forum... Fuck'em beacuse they could post at least once/twice per week

I agree but also understand people move on... most people don't want to deal with this in general I think. They just wanted to live life without PFS/CFS/etc. it's also the reason they first started visiting these forums. So with the same reason they go away. I'll keep posting for sure. Hopefully the forum will stay up for a while. Otherwise I will send a message to bruschi

@bruschi11 I think Gbolduev was more about getting rid of toxic metals make the body run properly. He was even against supplementing minerals mostly, if not necessary. Especially high amounts of minerals. This was a unique take because a lot of people within the hair testing/mineral sphere were all about minerals minerals minerals and he kind of went against that in a way.

Chris Masterjohn has been doing this for 10+ years I read him when I first got PFS. He was already talking about methylation. None of these guys changed any trajectory in my opinion. Maybe on a smaller scale yes. But not some type of crazy cognitive shift on a mass scale. I doubt Chris Masterjohn's advice fixed a lot of people's health.

Just look at Watson, Pfeiffer, Eck, etc. those guys are way before all this. Nobody talks about it except in smaller communities. Those guys actually did a lot of research relative to what a lot of online guru's do now. Who read a study or ask AI to write them a viral tweet or video.

The biggest health influencers are marketeers. If something is complex it cannot be sold easily. So I doubt complex problems will be mainstream. All this information we use has been there. Nothing new. For me this information was enough to get me out of PFS and the biggest health problems. Maybe I need to research myself more if I really wanted to get to the bottom of it. It could be possible.

 

[bruschi11]

I agree but also understand people move on... most people don't want to deal with this in general I think. They just wanted to live life without PFS/CFS/etc. it's also the reason they first started visiting these forums. So with the same reason they go away. I'll keep posting for sure. Hopefully the forum will stay up for a while. Otherwise I will send a message to bruschi

@bruschi11 I think Gbolduev was more about getting rid of toxic metals make the body run properly. He was even against supplementing minerals mostly, if not necessary. Especially high amounts of minerals. This was a unique take because a lot of people within the hair testing/mineral sphere were all about minerals minerals minerals and he kind of went against that in a way.

Chris Masterjohn has been doing this for 10+ years I read him when I first got PFS. He was already talking about methylation. None of these guys changed any trajectory in my opinion. Maybe on a smaller scale yes. But not some type of crazy cognitive shift on a mass scale. I doubt Chris Masterjohn's advice fixed a lot of people's health.

Just look at Watson, Pfeiffer, Eck, etc. those guys are way before all this. Nobody talks about it except in smaller communities. Those guys actually did a lot of research relative to what a lot of online guru's do now. Who read a study or ask AI to write them a viral tweet or video.

The biggest health influencers are marketeers. If something is complex it cannot be sold easily. So I doubt complex problems will be mainstream. All this information we use has been there. Nothing new. For me this information was enough to get me out of PFS and the biggest health problems. Maybe I need to research myself more if I really wanted to get to the bottom of it. It could be possible.

Chris Mas

I agree but also understand people move on... most people don't want to deal with this in general I think. They just wanted to live life without PFS/CFS/etc. it's also the reason they first started visiting these forums. So with the same reason they go away. I'll keep posting for sure. Hopefully the forum will stay up for a while. Otherwise I will send a message to bruschi

@bruschi11 I think Gbolduev was more about getting rid of toxic metals make the body run properly. He was even against supplementing minerals mostly, if not necessary. Especially high amounts of minerals. This was a unique take because a lot of people within the hair testing/mineral sphere were all about minerals minerals minerals and he kind of went against that in a way.

Chris Masterjohn has been doing this for 10+ years I read him when I first got PFS. He was already talking about methylation. None of these guys changed any trajectory in my opinion. Maybe on a smaller scale yes. But not some type of crazy cognitive shift on a mass scale. I doubt Chris Masterjohn's advice fixed a lot of people's health.

Just look at Watson, Pfeiffer, Eck, etc. those guys are way before all this. Nobody talks about it except in smaller communities. Those guys actually did a lot of research relative to what a lot of online guru's do now. Who read a study or ask AI to write them a viral tweet or video.

The biggest health influencers are marketeers. If something is complex it cannot be sold easily. So I doubt complex problems will be mainstream. All this information we use has been there. Nothing new. For me this information was enough to get me out of PFS and the biggest health problems. Maybe I need to research myself more if I really wanted to get to the bottom of it. It could be possible.

Masterjohns main way of testing is the mitome.

Which explains how each step of the electron transport chain is working for that person at the moment

There’s only 4 maybe 5 steps to judge.

Thats how simple health can really be.

Then you see tho. How complex each of those 4-5 steps really are.

1) nadh/fmn is complex 1
2) fad
3) fe/ s
4) zn/cu/mn
5) many say carnitine and nitric oxide are keys for complex 5

Masterjohn or Gbold or anyone really can’t fix another person unless there’s a minor glitch in all of the above.

People that are sick for years will have a problem with one of these then the rest will start slipping.

It’s up to that respective person to fix themselves .

 

[Yura]

Chris is trying hard to be relevant in that space of the biggest influencers. The most funny thing is that he is trying to have deep voice when he speaks in podcasts. So hilarious..
But he is much smarter than 99% of all those idiots that's for sure. He at least understands that it is about biochemistry on that micro level like minerals, enzymes, pathways and stuff.
Everyone else is talking just about hormones and what macronutrients you should eat. Like those pro metabolic idiots for example. They are like 30 years behind of guys like Masterjohn or @bruschi11 ...
The one thing I was really angry about with Chris was that he was saying you can't tell if you have hypoglycemia or hyperglycemia without testing. Which is crazy to say because symptoms of hypoglycemia are completely different than hyperglycemia. It looks like he never had some crazy strong hypo heh.. You start shaking, out of nowhere you are soaked in sweat and you have insane taster for sweet stuff. and if you eat something like big tablespoon of dextrose followed with some water which is the fastest way to deliver glucose apart from into the vein. Those symptoms will slowly disappear. Chris was arguing that I don't know if it was hypo or hyperglycemia if I don't have that confirmed with glucose test. Like how dumb that is lol.. Hyperglycemia doesn't have acute symptoms like that at all. If you have hyperglycemia you are just crazy thirsty and your urine tastes sweet. That's about it. FOr this reason alone I don't know how should I take Chris seriously heh.