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Yura

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@RebelWithACause Yeah I got heavy metals maybe even excess of copper from my mom for sure.
Bad diet, amalgams= zero zinc, selenium, iodine and stuff to make hormones..

You took 1000mg of ALA but what form? S ALA is useless. R ALA is much better and best is Na R ALA... I will try that best version and will see.
 

RebelWithACause

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@RebelWithACause Yeah I got heavy metals maybe even excess of copper from my mom for sure.
Bad diet, amalgams= zero zinc, selenium, iodine and stuff to make hormones..

You took 1000mg of ALA but what form? S ALA is useless. R ALA is much better and best is Na R ALA... I will try that best version and will see.
They all felt same to me I also used R-ALA.
 

Resurection

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It's really sad you think this tbh, so there's a much better life for you and you would rather suffer and live a meaningless life. Your ego has convinced yourself its a lie to keep you stuck in a state of suffering.

Also pretty offensive to people you calling it cope because you really do not understand it att all. I developed a connection to god through mineral balancing and before that I felt 0 connection to god so I thought it was all made up, I did not cry out to god for help or anything like that.

@Yura you like posting these guys a lot, they speak about people feeling a connection to god through mineral balancing here and its not something any of these people were seeking it just happened organically

Also not just the mineral balancing guys saying this, the Celestial Being Veronica Peat girl on X says strong metabolism/thyroid= God, Shawn bean the TRT functional practioner always saying how when we heal properly we can start to feel a connection to God
With a lack of bioavailable copper and zinc you won't feel any connection to god. I was gonna say in the past to you but you always sound super negative, hyper critical, depressed on here the whole time and not having bioavailable copper/good ATP production does this, that will make you into a miserable person.

Zinc (when its working) also gives you such a pure, clean hearted energy which is like christ consciousness, the trouble is most adults have too many metals / or too much iron and copper that blocking their zinc from working properly.

And yeah if you're still living dead in sin then you are not going to feel gods presence.. Only when one lives a life of repentance and accepts Jesus as their lord and saviour can they then enter the kingdom of god.

Maybe I butted into a conversation that wasn't mine, but what you're talking about, implying it's a "connection with god," is called estrogen, or to be more specific, anandamide. That's why you're talking about copper and its balance.

This is precisely why women feel "higher powers," believe in all sorts of magic, tarot cards, horoscopes, etc., since they are dominant in relation to estrogen, which enhances the action of opioids and cannabinoids, as well as dopamine. All these sensations are endorphins — a drug. The same thing happens with those who take various substances, since they all affect the cannabinoid and opioid systems. Heroin, opiates, etc. - the opioid system. Cannabis, marijuana, etc. - the cannabinoid.

For example, the reason you remember childhood as something wonderful, carefree and interesting is that this feeling was given to you by cannabinoids. With age, they decrease and I suspect this happens due to androgenic dominance, following oxidation and a drop in NADPH (low estrogen).

I might disappoint you, but everything we experience is an illusion. I would even say that when you are in a worse state, you see the world more realistically than when your body is working well. Therefore, more mature people are usually those who have been through hardships and have faced reality. Infantile people, on the other hand, often avoid reality, surround themselves with positivity and live in "rose-colored glasses."

Our brain and our sensations do not show us reality, they are designed to hide this reality, otherwise you would go insane, since everything you see and hear is processed information, not objective reality.

And everything we exist for here on this planet is reproduction. Nature doesn't need you to know "God" or some kind of truth, it needs you to perform your functions, just like an ant in an anthill.

I will add that I'm not trying to offend or hurt anyone, it's just that the entire concept of your statements is based on sensations (emotions), and this is, as a rule, counterproductive and non-objective. Look at the behavior of women and you will understand how effective such a model of interacting with the world is.
 

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Maybe I butted into a conversation that wasn't mine, but what you're talking about, implying it's a "connection with god," is called estrogen, or to be more specific, anandamide. That's why you're talking about copper and its balance.

This is precisely why women feel "higher powers," believe in all sorts of magic, tarot cards, horoscopes, etc., since they are dominant in relation to estrogen, which enhances the action of opioids and cannabinoids, as well as dopamine. All these sensations are endorphins — a drug. The same thing happens with those who take various substances, since they all affect the cannabinoid and opioid systems. Heroin, opiates, etc. - the opioid system. Cannabis, marijuana, etc. - the cannabinoid.

For example, the reason you remember childhood as something wonderful, carefree and interesting is that this feeling was given to you by cannabinoids. With age, they decrease and I suspect this happens due to androgenic dominance, following oxidation and a drop in NADPH (low estrogen).

I might disappoint you, but everything we experience is an illusion. I would even say that when you are in a worse state, you see the world more realistically than when your body is working well. Therefore, more mature people are usually those who have been through hardships and have faced reality. Infantile people, on the other hand, often avoid reality, surround themselves with positivity and live in "rose-colored glasses."

Our brain and our sensations do not show us reality, they are designed to hide this reality, otherwise you would go insane, since everything you see and hear is processed information, not objective reality.

And everything we exist for here on this planet is reproduction. Nature doesn't need you to know "God" or some kind of truth, it needs you to perform your functions, just like an ant in an anthill.

I will add that I'm not trying to offend or hurt anyone, it's just that the entire concept of your statements is based on sensations (emotions), and this is, as a rule, counterproductive and non-objective. Look at the behavior of women and you will understand how effective such a model of interacting with the world is.
Lol estrogen... No... I felt a much stronger connection to god doing hg7 from raising my zinc levels, and I would say the hg7 makes you low estrogen I would feel that a lot from it. The trouble is all or most adults are running at an absolute zinc deficiency from the other heavy metals/ iron and copper replacing zinc.

And copper is the gateway mineral to the non physical/spiritual realms.

If I go through periods of sin I'll stop feeling any connection to god, I'll go into a church and I feel nothing, where as normally when I'm avoiding sin I would feel gods presence strongly inside of a church.
 

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@RebelWithACause yeah obviously balance is what is ideal. But I was talking if I had to choose between more copper dominant or more zinc dominant I would pick zinc any day of the week.
But I am not so sure if Lewis or Luke are overdosed on zinc? Why their faces are so bloated? TO me they look estrogen dominant to be honest. I had face like that all the time when I was estrogen dominant especially on steroids that convert to estrogen. Now when my estradil was low I was looking crazy dehydrated like bodybuilder before the show.
Btw still have no idea why was my estradiol low if I am copper toxic.. Maybe I am more iron toxic. Will see what low heme iron diet and green tea extract can do with that..
You want to be zinc dominant obviously, zinc will heal your soul if your body is able to use it. Copper dominant you will be a soyboy. Lewis and Luke clearly didn't overdose on zinc lol... They have too much copper this is why they don't look masculine at all really. They did ARL where they took a bunch of copper, anyone who's taken copper supplements for a fair amount of time is going to have too much copper in their bodies/livers. Maybe fast oxidisers less so but seems like fast oxidisers are still benefitting a lot from hg7.
 

Resurection

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Lol estrogen... No... I felt a much stronger connection to god doing hg7 from raising my zinc levels, and I would say the hg7 makes you low estrogen I would feel that a lot from it. The trouble is all or most adults are running at an absolute zinc deficiency from the other heavy metals/ iron and copper replacing zinc.

And copper is the gateway mineral to the non physical/spiritual realms.

If I go through periods of sin I'll stop feeling any connection to god, I'll go into a church and I feel nothing, where as normally when I'm avoiding sin I would feel gods presence strongly inside of a church.

This is done by estrogen, man and it's rather silly to talk about some mineral leading to a "connection with God." In terms of your subjective feelings, maybe, but in the literal sense, that sounds like nonsense. I mean, this is not something to promote, it's something one can experience as a personal journey and possibly enjoy if it brings pleasure.

Of course, we can dissect all this and talk about how important norepinephrine is, how important oxytocin, serotonin, histamine, etc., are. But the feeling of connection itself and euphoria, that's endogenous endorphins, which in the end are controlled by estrogen (anandamide).

Balance is important here, it's not as simple as taking copper, and I'm not saying it is. I'm saying this happens when copper functions well, just like estrogen. That's why zinc, just like iron, is important here.

Take an aromatase inhibitor and then tell me about these feelings. The result of such spirituality you can see on any bodybuilding forum. On an aromatase inhibitor, you can keep believing in God, but you won't experience those sensations.


You can find a lot of similar things with people who, for example, took HRT. Those who had high 5AR often lost this "connection," others gained it.

Perhaps it's worth emphasizing once again, I'm talking specifically about the feeling of belonging/closeness (however you want to call it), not faith itself. Many people who didn't believe in God simply got the effects of euphoria, they called it a connection with nature, etc. Everyone interprets it based on their own experience.

To me, this is an absolute drug and fanaticism. That's why women chase emotions, they are actually chasing a dose. That's also why it's often harder for them to quit drugs/alcohol.

The same goes for the mistaken perception of people who have experienced clinical death. Their 5ht2a receptors were super-expressed at the moment of death and caused hallucinations in which they saw a light at the end of the tunnel and other mystical things. They initially had problems with serotonin, and often this increased expression is found precisely in suicide victims.

It's all merely the work of their chemistry combined with what they believed in or were convinced to believe in throughout their lives.
 

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High Zinc is more like high progesterone. Not necessarily in everyone will act the same way nor will it make everyone more masculine. If you are low in zinc yea of course it will help raise metabolism and lower copper, iron, etc. But you will see once you overload on zinc you're going the opposite way it won't. Can even make you bitchy like a pregnant woman. High prog production is not always good.

It's the same with mercury if you are toxic in it, or cadmium it will lower zinc too. So you need a lot of it to stay "balanced".

I do think a lot of HTMA guys overdone the zinc. When I got very high prog/cortisol long term I also start to believe in stuff and get more delusions. I started to also become more fearful and want to have something like God or religion support me. High prog production can also cause suicidal thoughts. Same as high cortisol levels.

That being said I'm not here to crap on someones belief and yea I'm not perfect either. So you always need to follow what you believe in and then you'll see maybe you are closer or further from the truth if you are open to make mistakes. I made many mistakes f-ed myself up with a lot of stuff to see what happened.
 
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I think it's true we don't see objective reality like you say @Ressurection We only see what we need to survive and reproduce. Our reality is HEAVILY filtered. Even Huxley wrote about after using drug in The Doors of Perception. And some modern day people talk about it as well. Now religious people will probably say he opened the portals to hell with drugs. So yes, this is how religious vs. non-religious discussion always go.

And I believe these filters yes are also influenced by our neurotransmitters, minerals, hormones, etc. But as a human it will always be filtered a lot. No matter how healthy you are. Maybe you are even more filtered and inhibited when you are healthier so your survival and reproduction goes up. Ironically.
 

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When zinc functions properly, nmda receptor works. As we get to beta alanine taurine. Which allows us to use our glycine putting chloride in the cell. Which allows potassium magnesium retainment raising atp.

ATP with sugar for gtp leads to optimal vitamin A metabolism allowing our iron and copper to be metabolized. Raising tyrosine so we use our iodine which uses our oxygen to produce superoxide. Which uses up the copper and iron we are making available.

Eventually as this all occurs we start producing less and less superoxide. And we retain our copper iron. And and as this occurs we make more preg dhea estrogen testosterone.

Everything goes together here. Estrogen is real in its power on the brain. Has anyone here ever taken estrogen? I have. It’s a powerful thing.
 
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I took it. Basically, estrogen acts on alpha and beta receptors. Only alpha receptors have a feminizing effect and cause frightening symptoms ( suicidal- because er alpha potentiate 5ht1a receptors ( and automatically sigma1+KOR) when strongly expressed, while beta receptors are masculinizing and very libidinous. Imagine a combination of the words beige, peaches, and platinum blonde. Porn from the 90s and car washes and those women walking against the backdrop of Wall Street in gold jewelry to the offices of their “shadow people” business demons (androgen receptor correctly bound to the nucleus).
Androgen receptor + estrogen beta essentially form the basis of self-recognition and recognition of other people's bodies, being the foundation of physical reality.
However, when it comes to childhood magic, it is completely the opposite, and for some reason (which I will not mention), if we have souls, we instinctively strive for it. Because life is not only about the physical dimension and evolution, even though it sounds so tempting to the male brain, because it is our definition and constitutes a sexy polarization for the female energy of a platinum blonde, but you can connect different multiverses if you know that what really matters is only energy and a certain elusive impression.
During various unpleasant events, the system continues to pursue us and attempts to imprison us in conventions that are intended to cause us to drop out of the game. Therefore, during adulthood, 5ht2a and cb1 increase, narrowing the space of consciousness and causing a feeling that we have lost something that connected us in childhood with the objective reality in which we could perceive God.
It is important not to confuse this with religiosity, which is another false dimension of the prison managed by the sigma1 receptor, which seeks to destroy us. These are synonyms for the superego/collective unconscious, which opposes individuation because it feels threatened. This receptor is responsible for the symptoms of schizophrenia. Therefore, as a result of progesterone withdrawal (a strong endogenous antagonist) due to the rebound of 5-alpha-reductase from PFS, Sigma1 becomes overactive, which inhibits sexuality and all our predatory urges in the name of holiness, scaring us with hell.
 

Fazed22

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This is done by estrogen, man and it's rather silly to talk about some mineral leading to a "connection with God." In terms of your subjective feelings, maybe, but in the literal sense, that sounds like nonsense. I mean, this is not something to promote, it's something one can experience as a personal journey and possibly enjoy if it brings pleasure.

Of course, we can dissect all this and talk about how important norepinephrine is, how important oxytocin, serotonin, histamine, etc., are. But the feeling of connection itself and euphoria, that's endogenous endorphins, which in the end are controlled by estrogen (anandamide).

Balance is important here, it's not as simple as taking copper, and I'm not saying it is. I'm saying this happens when copper functions well, just like estrogen. That's why zinc, just like iron, is important here.

Take an aromatase inhibitor and then tell me about these feelings. The result of such spirituality you can see on any bodybuilding forum. On an aromatase inhibitor, you can keep believing in God, but you won't experience those sensations.


You can find a lot of similar things with people who, for example, took HRT. Those who had high 5AR often lost this "connection," others gained it.

Perhaps it's worth emphasizing once again, I'm talking specifically about the feeling of belonging/closeness (however you want to call it), not faith itself. Many people who didn't believe in God simply got the effects of euphoria, they called it a connection with nature, etc. Everyone interprets it based on their own experience.

To me, this is an absolute drug and fanaticism. That's why women chase emotions, they are actually chasing a dose. That's also why it's often harder for them to quit drugs/alcohol.

The same goes for the mistaken perception of people who have experienced clinical death. Their 5ht2a receptors were super-expressed at the moment of death and caused hallucinations in which they saw a light at the end of the tunnel and other mystical things. They initially had problems with serotonin, and often this increased expression is found precisely in suicide victims.

It's all merely the work of their chemistry combined with what they believed in or were convinced to believe in throughout their lives.

It's not silly tbh. Have you seen what happens when the zinc ions of a sperm cell hit and fertilise the female egg, there is a big flash of light and scientists call this the "Zinc Spark of Life". Some people say this reaction is where the soul enters the body, but who knows. I found personally with hg7 and raising my zinc stores, zinc is what heals the soul.

Yes estrogen makes copper work and copper is the most highly conductive/electric metal, which might be why people say its the facilitator of energy transfer between physical and non physical realms. So if you take an aromatase inhibitor and kill your estrogen, then you don't have any bioavailable copper anymore and your connection to god and the non physical realms is cut off.

If you want to believe that feeling a connection to god is all some kind of brain illusion due to some receptor signalling thats fine, we don't have to agree on this.

Also the pineal gland releases huge amounts of DMT when we're about to die, and people say that DMT is the spirit molecule, so you have to ask yourself why is this being released in huge amounts when we're about to die.
 
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It's not silly tbh. Have you seen what happens when the zinc ions of a sperm cell hit and fertilise the female egg, there is a big flash of light and scientists call this the "Zinc Spark of Life". Some people say this reaction is where the soul enters the body, but who knows. I found personally with hg7 and raising my zinc stores, zinc is what heals the soul.

Yes estrogen makes copper work and copper is the most highly conductive/electric metal, which might be why people say its the facilitator of energy transfer between physical and non physical realms. So if you take an aromatase inhibitor and kill your estrogen, then you don't have any bioavailable copper anymore and your connection to god and the non physical realms is cut off.

If you want to believe that feeling a connection to god is all some kind of brain illusion due to some receptor signalling thats fine, we don't have to agree on this.

Also the pineal gland releases huge amounts of DMT when we're about to die, and people say that DMT is the spirit molecule, so you have to ask yourself why is this being released in huge amounts when we're about to die.
I wouldn't limit it to estradiol.
But you know that androgen and estrogen alpha receptors have a zinc finger domain that only works when they are expressed at moderate levels. In drug-induced syndromes, we are dealing with overexpression where the zinc finger stops working and we are basically dead.
So you could say that the zinc finger, by binding receptors to DNA, is the spark of life. The androgen receptor is basically the equivalent of the self, and if it is disturbed, as in all drug syndromes, the ego dies, as if information from both the physical animal world and the non-material world were interrupted.
 

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Interesting for sure. I still have to see, maybe I will see it in the future. When I read some of this my brain can't make a logical conclusion out of it.

Anyways hope you guys doing good or get better at the very least. Have a good christmas. I will go on a holiday lol.
 

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It's not silly tbh. Have you seen what happens when the zinc ions of a sperm cell hit and fertilise the female egg, there is a big flash of light and scientists call this the "Zinc Spark of Life". Some people say this reaction is where the soul enters the body, but who knows. I found personally with hg7 and raising my zinc stores, zinc is what heals the soul.

Yes estrogen makes copper work and copper is the most highly conductive/electric metal, which might be why people say its the facilitator of energy transfer between physical and non physical realms. So if you take an aromatase inhibitor and kill your estrogen, then you don't have any bioavailable copper anymore and your connection to god and the non physical realms is cut off.

If you want to believe that feeling a connection to god is all some kind of brain illusion due to some receptor signalling thats fine, we don't have to agree on this.

Also the pineal gland releases huge amounts of DMT when we're about to die, and people say that DMT is the spirit molecule, so you have to ask yourself why is this being released in huge amounts when we're about to die.

I pointed to endorphins as the source of your sensations. Estrogen is what ultimately controls them, which is why working copper and estrogen are important here. The essence itself is not in copper and estrogen. Remove endorphins and leave copper and estrogen, and your source will not be there, nor will this "connection."

You experience similar feelings when listening to music of a particular genre, for example calming types like ambient or some meditation themes. These are the same endorphins. The difference lies only in the amount of their release and the connection with the receptor and DNA, which estrogen enhances.

Estrogen enhances the expression of the μ-opioid receptor by binding to the gene (MOR). Also, estrogen binds to the POMC gene and triggers the entire cascade of POMC (proopiomelanocortin) synthesis. The metabolism and breakdown of POMC produces endorphins, including ACTH. Estrogen also increases the breakdown of POMC itself. There were suggestions (I was interested in this a long time ago, maybe it's already been figured out) that estrogen inhibits the reuptake of endorphins, leading to an increase and prolongation of their action. The latter is only an assumption.

Also, estrogen suppresses the activity of the FAAH enzyme, which breaks down anandamide. This leads to increased levels of anandamide, which then binds to the endocannabinoid system (CB1).

These two systems work synergistically in the brain and complement each other. They are both important, and estrogen controls them, enhances them when it is present, and reduces their activity when it is absent.

Endorphins, figuratively speaking, are your happiness. This is how nature and evolution force you to satisfy animal instincts (the reptilian brain). Namely survival, reproduction, and dominance.

You get a release of this drug for satisfying any of them. For example, you ate or came in from the cold into warmth you got a dose (survival). Bought a better car than your neighbor (rose above another) - got another dose (dominance). Had sex or its analogue and achieved orgasm got the most powerful release (reproduction).

The goal is simple. To survive, to prove you are the best (to attract the attention of the opposite sex), in order to ultimately reproduce. Everything you do, you do to serve these instincts.

For example, religion is about survival and dominance. And the fact that we can communicate, create, work in different professions these are social instincts (the cerebral cortex). They are new and they also obey the animal ones.

Even the fact that you argue with me and try to prove something to other people is the dominance instinct, that is, an animal instinct. And at the same time, you talk about faith and spirituality. Funny. Just like people with PFS and those who take finasteride, they do it so as not to lose their appearance/status (dominance) and to be able to attract women (reproduction).

Anyway, I think if I describe further, I'll take up this entire topic.

I don't even know what to comment on in your message, since it is entirely built on empty faith, emotions, and your guesses. You are trying to fit the world to a theory, not the other way around.

"God" is something that cannot be disproven or proven. I can say that before the universe began, there was another universe, and you cannot refute that in any way. I will endlessly adjust any of your statements to fit my theory. This is very convenient. In my opinion, there should be elementary critical thinking, at least simple logic.

For example.

Do you seriously think that "God," who has power over everything in this world space, time, atoms, vibrations, the quantum world, etc., needs to use copper to connect with you

Does your "loving God" abandon you in times of illness, depriving you of your "connection with Him," when as a result of this illness the body loses access to copper or whatever you have there, zinc. Wouldn't it be the opposite, since He wants to guide you to recovery

This is literally kindergarten-level logic, and you can ask many such questions that stump this "theory," they are all on the surface.

It seems the more people get miscellaneous information, the further they move away from reality and go crazy. For some reason, I didn't think something like this would be on this forum.

I don't plan to argue further. You can believe whatever you want, and no one forbids you or tries to convince you otherwise. I don't really have problems with religious people in general, It's their right. It's another matter when such people try to instill this faith in others, while, as a rule, everything is based on emotions, and the arguments are, at best, contrived, and at worst, completely absent.

I wish you success in improving the function of other minerals. Who knows, maybe you will not only feel the presence of "God" but also see Him, and ideally, hug him or shake his hand. In that case, tell him from me that I love him too.
 

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@Resurection god and religion made perfect sense when you didn't have the answers for literally anything.
But now it is the exact opposite. When we can break down everything from galaxies to atoms. Everything from all those smart scientists makes sense and non of that religious/god stuff makes sense anymore..
But because humans learned the power of religion as a tool to manipulate with people and as powerful cope with reality of life. It keeps going and it will not go anywhere any time soon..

""God" is something that cannot be disproven or proven. I can say that before the universe began, there was another universe, and you cannot refute that in any way. I will endlessly adjust any of your statements to fit my theory. This is very convenient. In my opinion, there should be elementary critical thinking, at least simple logic."

and that is exactly why any conversation with religious people is pointless.. Period...
 
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