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The diet is a problem, eating lots of carrots (high vit A/carotenoids) and other high carotenoid veg, with almond butter (pufa), seed oil blue corn chips lol and then loading up on tons of minerals like copper, managnese from the ARL supplements and then also all the synthetic Vit A from the ARL supplements.
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RebelWithACause
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Could be. Could also be he's just very slow metabolism from genetics and past health. That's why that low calorie diet works for him... at least "mentally". Although signs of schizophrenia is not a good thing. LMAO It's just a shitshow tbh. You can't even defend this stuff properly.
Anyways a lot of info he posted on his website is decent. I don't like criticising these people at all but everytime people talk about NB I think of these dudes. I wish it was different.
Anyways a lot of info he posted on his website is decent. I don't like criticising these people at all but everytime people talk about NB I think of these dudes. I wish it was different.
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I never had problems with vitamin A personally incl. the foods that contain them. Never had acne either so never touched accutane. My problem was mostly mercury I think which caused huge issues with other minerals like copper, iron, manganese, low glutathione, etc. Now this is gone I feel normal except I think my metabolism genetics/predisposition is slower/slow oxidizer.
I was probably a bit vitamin A toxic at the start from hypothyroidism. But as this resolved for the most part, can't say it's 100% but most part I don't have these issues anymore.
I was probably a bit vitamin A toxic at the start from hypothyroidism. But as this resolved for the most part, can't say it's 100% but most part I don't have these issues anymore.
@RebelWithACause the vit A thing is chronic toxicity. If you eat little over your body can metabolize you slowly accumulate. I was not eating little over. I was eating a lot of vit A. Especially once I started with low carb WEston Price style. Whole eggs, all kinds of full fat dairy products and butter, cod liver oils, liver some palmitate on top of that. After that Ray Peat high vit A again after that Morley Robbins beef liver again..
Before that I did low dose accutane cycle as well.. I think so many people are overeating vit A in health world and they think it can't hurt them when they don't feel bad instantly after eating high vit A foods. They simply don't understand that it is about chronic overload. Once liver is full and it starts to spill into other tissue that is the time when all kinds of issues arrive..
But now I wonder where is the point I should start eating some vit A again. When vit A on serum test will be deficient? Maybe it is already to low? I am eating some beta carotene from acerola juice powder and green beans/peas and stuff like that. But I think I will stay away from liver. Maybe some caviar I would like to eat. I think it is great "superfood"
Hopefully I will be able to tolerate good quality dairy at some point. I feel like it is a must for great health. Like goat cheese etc.. THere is so much bioavalable macro/micronutrients..
Before that I did low dose accutane cycle as well.. I think so many people are overeating vit A in health world and they think it can't hurt them when they don't feel bad instantly after eating high vit A foods. They simply don't understand that it is about chronic overload. Once liver is full and it starts to spill into other tissue that is the time when all kinds of issues arrive..
But now I wonder where is the point I should start eating some vit A again. When vit A on serum test will be deficient? Maybe it is already to low? I am eating some beta carotene from acerola juice powder and green beans/peas and stuff like that. But I think I will stay away from liver. Maybe some caviar I would like to eat. I think it is great "superfood"
Hopefully I will be able to tolerate good quality dairy at some point. I feel like it is a must for great health. Like goat cheese etc.. THere is so much bioavalable macro/micronutrients..
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Yea I know you ate a lot of Vitamin A. Makes sense to lower it for a while then. I kinda ate a low vitamin A diet without knowing it for like 2 years. But then after that started adding dairy again which contains Vitamin A. So now I am not low Vitamin A diet anymore. I don't feel bad from it. But I did remember I tried a supplement with vitamin A and felt bad. Then never took it again.
When we talk about diet. Just imagine every study would be like that. This is basically the only study on people about diet that we can take seriously.
Everything else is a joke basically..
Btw everyone who is trying some stupid diets should watch it. They were eating 1500kcal. Now imagine what damage are doing people to their body when they eat even less.. Especially when you try to recover from chronic fatigue, chronic stress etc.. It is just stupid. I would say good 50% of people doing nutritional balancing etc. end up eating to little calories and once their metabolism is fucked they blame it on everything else but not on their stupid crazy low calorie diet and because they go so deep in that restriction they no longer can even imagine eating normal amout of calories like 2500-3500kcal for adult male.
So obviously they never recover they healthy metabolic rate obviously. I mean you can take all the micronutrients you want, but at the end of the day the body can't burn hot without enough calories...
I personally have so many symptoms that he is describing it is crazy... Just imagine you are doing all those tests, thinking about micro details meanwhile big factor could be that you are simply not eating enough..
I don't think it is the cure for most of us, but I know for sure that I have hard time eating enough due to the stress/fear that basically everything is bad for me or has something problematic in it heh..
Everything else is a joke basically..
Btw everyone who is trying some stupid diets should watch it. They were eating 1500kcal. Now imagine what damage are doing people to their body when they eat even less.. Especially when you try to recover from chronic fatigue, chronic stress etc.. It is just stupid. I would say good 50% of people doing nutritional balancing etc. end up eating to little calories and once their metabolism is fucked they blame it on everything else but not on their stupid crazy low calorie diet and because they go so deep in that restriction they no longer can even imagine eating normal amout of calories like 2500-3500kcal for adult male.
So obviously they never recover they healthy metabolic rate obviously. I mean you can take all the micronutrients you want, but at the end of the day the body can't burn hot without enough calories...
I personally have so many symptoms that he is describing it is crazy... Just imagine you are doing all those tests, thinking about micro details meanwhile big factor could be that you are simply not eating enough..
I don't think it is the cure for most of us, but I know for sure that I have hard time eating enough due to the stress/fear that basically everything is bad for me or has something problematic in it heh..
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vit a actually plays a big role in my supplementation regime from tei. the thing is you have to take it with other vit/minerals they recommend to you otherwise you will end up with big side effects like i actually. i reccomend checking reedit with vitamin a and ceruloplasmin search words, beacuse vit a actually raises ceruloplasmin ! and this probably starting carrying out your fe from liver/brain and without a bit of vit e/vit c/ vit b's you are into trouble like i recently
@ruprmurdoch yes it rises ceruloplasmin but we don't know why. Ceruloplasmin goes up with infection, high estrogen etc. as well..
But I do think it is important, but people don't understand once is your liver overloaded with retinol. You will fix that only by low vit A diet for a long time.
I am on low vit A diet almost 8 years and my serum retinol is still far from deficient. You probably didn't have vit A overload I did. I had like every symptom that is common for vit A toxicity. Just google side effects of accutane. I basically have like 90% of them. By far the worse intensity of those symptoms I had when I stopped all vit A and was eating very little vit A diet. I was detox it like crazy for at least 1 year. After that it started calming down a bit.. I don't think I want take synthetic vit A ever again. If they recommend vit A with copper I would eat just some beef liver. 10g gives you like 100% RDA for retinol and copper.. That is perfect supplement for that..
But I do think it is important, but people don't understand once is your liver overloaded with retinol. You will fix that only by low vit A diet for a long time.
I am on low vit A diet almost 8 years and my serum retinol is still far from deficient. You probably didn't have vit A overload I did. I had like every symptom that is common for vit A toxicity. Just google side effects of accutane. I basically have like 90% of them. By far the worse intensity of those symptoms I had when I stopped all vit A and was eating very little vit A diet. I was detox it like crazy for at least 1 year. After that it started calming down a bit.. I don't think I want take synthetic vit A ever again. If they recommend vit A with copper I would eat just some beef liver. 10g gives you like 100% RDA for retinol and copper.. That is perfect supplement for that..
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Vitamin A is needed but yea if you're overloaded of course it's not good. I feel better from vitamin A food but not supplementation. So who knows. Maybe you're right ruprmurdoch you need all cofactors for ceruloplasmin at once. Just like taking one type of mineral can be bad.
TEI did give a lot of vitamin A to me too. I didn't get worse from it at all. So again... I think it's when your metabolism is down and you get a lot of vitamin A in this is bad. But same for iron intake, copper intake and maybe even stuff like zinc, manganese, etc. When metabolism is down your body barely uses anything. Probably just stores it all.
TEI did give a lot of vitamin A to me too. I didn't get worse from it at all. So again... I think it's when your metabolism is down and you get a lot of vitamin A in this is bad. But same for iron intake, copper intake and maybe even stuff like zinc, manganese, etc. When metabolism is down your body barely uses anything. Probably just stores it all.
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they do not reccomend copper for me, and as far as i remember you have similar values of blood test lik i (low cu and low cerulo + low cu on htma).@ruprmurdoch yes it rises ceruloplasmin but we don't know why. Ceruloplasmin goes up with infection, high estrogen etc. as well..
But I do think it is important, but people don't understand once is your liver overloaded with retinol. You will fix that only by low vit A diet for a long time.
I am on low vit A diet almost 8 years and my serum retinol is still far from deficient. You probably didn't have vit A overload I did. I had like every symptom that is common for vit A toxicity. Just google side effects of accutane. I basically have like 90% of them. By far the worse intensity of those symptoms I had when I stopped all vit A and was eating very little vit A diet. I was detox it like crazy for at least 1 year. After that it started calming down a bit.. I don't think I want take synthetic vit A ever again. If they recommend vit A with copper I would eat just some beef liver. 10g gives you like 100% RDA for retinol and copper.. That is perfect supplement for that..
vit a is metabolized mainly by zinc, and i think is anatoginistic to vit e.
but in the end their program make sense for me
btw those sulfa+trimeth cycles makes increased levels on my htma of uranium,aluminium,arsenic.
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no sides beacuse probably you took whole regime supplementsVitamin A is needed but yea if you're overloaded of course it's not good. I feel better from vitamin A food but not supplementation. So who knows. Maybe you're right ruprmurdoch you need all cofactors for ceruloplasmin at once. Just like taking one type of mineral can be bad.
TEI did give a lot of vitamin A to me too. I didn't get worse from it at all. So again... I think it's when your metabolism is down and you get a lot of vitamin A in this is bad. But same for iron intake, copper intake and maybe even stuff like zinc, manganese, etc. When metabolism is down your body barely uses anything. Probably just stores it all.
@ruprmurdoch Yes when I was toxic in vit A I was also deficient in zinc I am sure.. Yes you can see my new blood test in my log. I take vit E complex and I started also geosilica which is great supplement for silica. Wanted support collagen/bones with it. Will be interesting to see on retest if aluminium goes up when I am taking decent dose of silica..
Once hair test will be in mail we can compare them. I would love to know what TEI would say/recommend based on my hair test..
Btw do you have low white blood cells and neutrophils?
Once hair test will be in mail we can compare them. I would love to know what TEI would say/recommend based on my hair test..
Btw do you have low white blood cells and neutrophils?
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My magnesium was really high on htma when I was taking another aluminium antagonist-magnesium-for 1,5 months.@ruprmurdoch Yes when I was toxic in vit A I was also deficient in zinc I am sure.. Yes you can see my new blood test in my log. I take vit E complex and I started also geosilica which is great supplement for silica. Wanted support collagen/bones with it. Will be interesting to see on retest if aluminium goes up when I am taking decent dose of silica..
Once hair test will be in mail we can compare them. I would love to know what TEI would say/recommend based on my hair test..
Btw do you have low white blood cells and neutrophils?
My neutrophils and white blood cells are normal and in range
Your magnesium or aluminium was high? My neutrophils are low for a long time.. Pathogens have a party in my body.. Need bioavailable copper for it. But how to kick start that process(increasing ceruloplasmin = increasing neutrophils and antioxidants therefore the body can kill infections with hydrogen peroxide..) I really don't know. Taking copper antagonists does nothing. It just completely kills my in every possible way. Will see what that Luke practitioner will recommend.. Maybe HG7 protocol will be the answer after all. For now I am scared of taking EGCG. Don't trust those plant extracts..
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magnesium is aluminum antagonist. mg chelate aluminium. I chelate a lot of aluminium beacuse I took a lot of mg.Your magnesium or aluminium was high? My neutrophils are low for a long time.. Pathogens have a party in my body.. Need bioavailable copper for it. But how to kick start that process(increasing ceruloplasmin = increasing neutrophils and antioxidants therefore the body can kill infections with hydrogen peroxide..) I really don't know. Taking copper antagonists does nothing. It just completely kills my in every possible way. Will see what that Luke practitioner will recommend.. Maybe HG7 protocol will be the answer after all. For now I am scared of taking EGCG. Don't trust those plant extracts..
You may try antibiotic. Try do nasal swab for bacterias/fungus or check urine bacterias. I did nasal swab and I have staphylococus aureus. I used kotrimoksazol. This antibiotic raised my cerluloplasmin and copper levels (i tested my blood) and it helped me. If you have skin issues, your skin should be tested for bacterias/fungus but in most cases it is staphylococus