Goose PFS (Saw palmetto) log- TEI

[Goose12]

@Goose12 Great progress! What's your diet like alongside doing TEI? Are you eating fairly normally, or doing paleo or anything? Any alcohol? Gluten?

Trying to stick with tei recommended 40% protien 40% carbs 20% fat. I rarely have alcohol, maybe once a month. I have gluten all of the time, it's never bothered me.

I have cut back on the salami @bruschi11 lol.

Lately my go to has been vegetable and beef soup, chili (with a lot of beans), and stew. I will make it in the morning and eat on it all day. For quick snacks I have been having a serving of 85% dark coco, organic apple sauce with tons of cinnamon, organic sandwichs (the meat has nitrates from celery), fruit, or whey. Drinking water, tea, and kevita (kombucha). If I try to drink a pop now it taste like syrup, I don't enjoy it at all.

I ate terrible for a couple weeks in October, it didn't bother me but it definitely wasn't good for me either.

Surprisingly on this cycle energy is good. Can't wait for the snapback. Planning on stopping supps December 20th. That will be 2 months on supps.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I looked at your bloodtest at hormones. SHBG is high just like me. Looks pretty good hormone wise. Not crazy high values, average levels for adult male.

I wonder if TEI will improve testosterone levels in the long run. I assume it does if you also eat (balanced) diet that promotes higher testosterone - e.g. not too much fiber and good amount of calories.

 

[Goose12]

I looked at your bloodtest at hormones. SHBG is high just like me. Looks pretty good hormone wise. Not crazy high values, average levels for adult male.

I wonder if TEI will improve testosterone levels in the long run. I assume it does if you also eat (balanced) diet that promotes higher testosterone - e.g. not too much fiber and good amount of calories.

Thanks for the input.

I think in the long run tei will improve everything. Whish I had bloods from a year ago to compare.

We have some really good trials of tei going on now and we are definitely going to learn some valuable information.

 

[Admiral]

Still weird how most improve on TEI/ARL, yet hormones don't seem to change.

 

[Helen]

Still weird how most improve on TEI/ARL, yet hormones don't seem to change.

because he has normal hormone levels. testosterone should never be high or low. it should be in the middle.

 

[Astral kid]

because he has normal hormone levels. testosterone should never be high or low. it should be in the middle.

How did you get your testosterone to 1300 and DHT to 2000?

 

[Helen]

How did you get your testosterone to 1300 and DHT to 2000?

I had lead toxicity which caused this. Now my DHT is 870 and I feel a lot a lot better.

You dont want anything high

 

[Astral kid]

I had lead toxicity which caused this. Now my DHT is 870 and I feel a lot a lot better.

You dont want anything high

Ok fair enough.

What did you mean when you said we need of grow our own hormones? How would you do this?

Also how do we make sure NAD and NADPH output are equal?How do we make sure sugar delivery and glycogen storage are optimal? Would this all be figured out with a hair test?

One last question, if I wanted to try a test and progesterone cycle what form of test and dosage would be enough?

 

[Astral kid]

@Helen

 

[Helen]

Ok fair enough.

What did you mean when you said we need of grow our own hormones? How would you do this?

Also how do we make sure NAD and NADPH output are equal?How do we make sure sugar delivery and glycogen storage are optimal? Would this all be figured out with a hair test?

One last question, if I wanted to try a test and progesterone cycle what form of test and dosage would be enough?

100mg test E a week, with 5mg daily progest.

Better do a hairtest and go on the program

 

[Astral kid]

100mg test E a week, with 5mg daily progest.

Better do a hairtest and go on the program

So the program will make NAD and NADPH output equal and at its maximum? Is this what you meant by "grow your own hormones"?

 

[Astral kid]

100mg test E a week, with 5mg daily progest.

Better do a hairtest and go on the program

I'm more interested in the program then taking steroids anyways.

 

[Astral kid]

So the program will make NAD and NADPH output equal and at its maximum? Is this what you meant by "grow your own hormones"?

@Helen

 

[MNK99]

Hey man. What's up. Merry Christmas!
How long does it take to feel awake?
Is 30-40mins normal? I think with ADD, it takes time definitely. but to feel sharp and ready for work, I think it was like an hour a couple years ago. basically never last year.
And mostly under an hour lately. But should I be instantly awake?
Tei making tired is normal, I'm sure. Myb 50mins. --5-20mins sharp, fully awake 35-45mins I think.

 

[Goose12]

Hey man. What's up. Merry Christmas!
How long does it take to feel awake?
Is 30-40mins normal? I think with ADD, it takes time definitely. but to feel sharp and ready for work, I think it was like an hour a couple years ago. basically never last year.
And mostly under an hour lately. But should I be instantly awake?
Tei making tired is normal, I'm sure. Myb 50mins. --5-20mins sharp, fully awake 35-45mins I think.

It's completely normal for teI to make you tired. When I started in April it took me 3 to 4 hours to feel fully awake. Now it takes me like 10 minutes.

This cycle has shot my mental clarity and energy levels up. Feels great, even better than pre saw by far.

Did you send in your hairtest yet?

 

[MNK99]

The second TEI hair sample? No, not yet. Running the rest of 90 days, then reevaluating shortly after. So like 90 minus 53 or something... 37 more days or less. I'll chk*.
Still seems to help asthma, mood, and sleep (deep sleep, falling asleep, staying asleep), quite well.
Catherine said wait till 40 or so days, may as well keep using it, is the jist of what she said.
I would have started like a week earlier, but I did fast a bit, mostly for body composition and to detox just a bit.
I believe the supps are still valid, feel pretty good.

-That's good wakefulness/alertness will be smoother later. Good to hear, improved a lot for you.
-I did order anavar and a compound test (if both arrive and it's legit), then I may migrate there for a short time. Wait 2 wks. Then get another hair test. Then do it again.
-OR I could do another cycle of TEI then do that... but if it actually gets here, it's going to be hard to resist.
-Long term TEI for sure tho. Seeing as tho, better progress in days and weeks in asthma than ever, and also mood, sleep, etc. And surely remaining PFS symptoms.
-But maybe 2 issues of PFS can be rectified with anavar. plus being shredded would be great. Either lean but not lean enough, or jacked but not shredded. Or skeletal, with a huge ribcage. Need some recompositioning... it never ends, after losing like 100+ lb.
-strong back, arms, chest, legs should be stronger, and either visible abs but not enough. skinny neck acc to some lol. ---> anavar is calling out to me.
-need to balance posterior and anterior chains.
-May regrow hair maybe... Oral Steroid Made My Hair Grow Back Thicker! ---> if that worked/ man... that'd be amazing. --not jumping around, anvr for just a couple precise issues and gains. ---tei for optimization / true form.

 

[Goose12]

The second TEI hair sample? No, not yet. Running the rest of 90 days, then reevaluating shortly after.
Still seems to help asthma, mood, and sleep (deep sleep, falling asleep, staying asleep), quite well.
Catherine said wait till 40 or so days, may as well keep using it, is the jist of what she said.
I would have started like a week earlier, but I did fast a bit, mostly for body composition and to detox just a bit.
I believe the supps are still valid, feel pretty good. Hypersexual at times, but not great bc that leads to drinking etc, and terrible sleep schedule, not to mention wasting time.
Also, some self-loathing. Christmas makes me trip out also.

-That's good wakefulness/alertness will be smoother later. Good to hear, improved a lot for you.
-I did order anavar and a compound test (if both arrive and it's legit), then I may migrate there for a short time. Wait 2 wks. Then get another hair test. Then do it again.
-OR I could do another cycle of TEI then do that... but if it actually gets here, it's going to be hard to resist.

Whats Catherine recommend on how long to take supps? 90, 120, 150 days? Just curious what she recommends. The way I have been doing it just seems to work for me.

I know it's hard sometimes, just stick with tei. Wait and see how everyone else does on anavar, urine, or hormones before you jump on anything else.

 

[MNK99]

90 days. So she said like: most do 3 cycles, and some are having difficulty sticking to it, but if not problematic and it makes you feel good, stick to it for 90days.
So about 10-14 days ago I asked her if I should change my supplements, i.e. order a new hair test, because I ran out of Min Plex B. She said you'd be fine to continue them.

I think early on, before getting supplements when I asked her (a lot of) questions, she said that 90 is best to adjust. So I did nearly 2months, ran out of Minplex-B.
-Then reordered. --Finally got it in. --Am finishing this cycle for sure. ---Can wait on the anavar, not a huge deal.
-And Yes, I don't want to risk crashing or something terrible happening.
-I see merit in sticking to TEI though for sure. And I definitely intended that. And am right now. Maybe 2 cycles then that. Basically, Anavar and TEI are the only things I'd try at this point, most likely. And TEI does have a better risk:reward profile, in terms of it's benefits, and helps me in several domains.
-I can wait it out.... I'll try. Good point man. If I'm already at 2, and anavar's here.... then maybe I'll just do a third and do that after.
-PFS isn't even bad right now, but* I also want to use anavar for non pfs reasons. But I understand one has to focus on one thing at a time.
-Could be best to stick out the TEI cycles, seeing as though I'm on them for now. Will send Hair Test 2 out soon after this cycle, so Jan 20+. maybe Jan 27 or so. Maybe a bit after.

-Also, I think logically 90 days would be fine, so would 100, etc. Unless major shifts occur in balance. I intend to do 3 90d cycles. Or however many are needed.
-Tired of being "natty" or nearly natty (minus the randro and 4andro from before but that's like 3months/ 14 years or so), and like 90% or so at my goal fitness wise/physique wise. But yes, gotta wait sometimes. --actually probably 95% or more. Less asthma, 3lb more LBM, and like 5lb less fat, I'd be more shredded than ev1 not on roids and not on a great disciplined regimen. But i want it now!! lol.

-I think I'll be fine either way. For total health it probably does make sense to use TEI first in this case. Otherwise, probably anavar first. But using anavar cured or nearly nearly cured, and maybe asthma, etc gone... would be great too. I admit I'm impulsive/impatient at times. Having it on hand, that's it... don't need anything else except PCT and TEI supplies. I favor TEI 60%. From total health perspective more... I just think with respect to time, migrating to Anavar might be quicker. --Bc, say TEI cured PFS. That might take 6-12mo. And the other stuff even longer......... BUT health is pretty good right now, not perfect. AND I can wait...... I'll focus on other stuff/ to make waiting easier.

--ALso, may be the exact same timeframe regardless... and also that may be impossible to predict.

 

[Goose12]

90 days. So she said like: most do 3 cycles, and some are having difficulty sticking to it, but if not problematic and it makes you feel good, stick to it for 90days.
So about 10-14 days ago I asked her if I should change my supplements, i.e. order a new hair test, because I ran out of Min Plex B. She said you'd be fine to continue them.

I think early on, before getting supplements when I asked her (a lot of) questions, she said that 90 is best to adjust. So I did nearly 2months, ran out of Minplex-B.
-Then reordered. --Finally got it in. --Am finishing this cycle for sure. ---Can wait on the anavar, not a huge deal.
-And Yes, I don't want to risk crashing or something terrible happening.
-I see merit in sticking to TEI though for sure. And I definitely intended that. And am right now. Maybe 2 cycles then that. Basically, Anavar and TEI are the only things I'd try at this point, most likely. And TEI does have a better risk:reward profile, in terms of it's benefits, and helps me in several domains.
-I can wait it out.... I'll try. Good point man. If I'm already at 2, and anavar's here.... then maybe I'll just do a third and do that after.
-PFS isn't even bad right now, but* I also want to use anavar for non pfs reasons. But I understand one has to focus on one thing at a time.
-Could be best to stick out the TEI cycles, seeing as though I'm on them for now. Will send Hair Test 2 out soon after this cycle, so Jan 20+. maybe Jan 27 or so. Maybe a bit after.

-Also, I think logically 90 days would be fine, so would 100, etc. Unless major shifts occur in balance. I intend to do 3 90d cycles. Or however many are needed.
-Tired of being "natty" or nearly natty (minus the randro and 4andro from before but that's like 3months/ 14 years or so), and like 90% or so at my goal fitness wise/physique wise. But yes, gotta wait sometimes.

-I think I'll be fine either way. For total health it probably does make sense to use TEI first in this case. Otherwise, probably anavar first. But using anavar cured or nearly nearly cured, and maybe asthma, etc gone... would be great too. I admit I'm impulsive/impatient at times. Having it on hand, that's it... don't need anything else except PCT and TEI supplies. I favor TEI 60%. From total health perspective more... I just think with respect to time, migrating to Anavar might be quicker. --Bc, say TEI cured PFS. That might take 6-12mo. And the other stuff even longer......... BUT health is pretty good right now, not perfect. AND I can wait...... I'll focus on other stuff/ to make waiting easier.

--ALso, may be the exact same timeframe regardless... and also that may be impossible to predict.

You are on point. Anavar may seem like it would be quicker but we don't have anyone claiming to be cured from it yet. Ihatefin and tubzy made some gains on it bUT not cured. Tei is probably faster in the long run.

Who knows maybe hormones will work and we can cure pfs in a month and then mineral balance. I am hoping to be cured with tei in another cycle or 2.

 

[RebelWithACause]

BTW for anavar longer cycle is also recommended now. For me I see TEI as a lifestyle. I focus on healthy eating, take the supps And for the rest do what I want. The longer I am on it the less impact of seems to have on my energy levels