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[IHateFin]

Did you improvements stick or went off?

they stuck

If I am not wrong, you did not test your progesterone before to runderstand RU right?

i did test my progesterone before my first ru cycle and it was higher than the top range value.
i didnt test it before my 2nd cycle tho.

 

[Goose12]

I do have hard balls as weel, not all the time but I notice they are pretty hard, too much hard very often...

I tried searching on pfs forums for anyone else who has mentioned this symptom but with no luck. I thought I was the only one. Thanks for letting me know, and in my experience it's nothing to worry about.

 

[wuf]

I do have hard balls as weel, not all the time but I notice they are pretty hard, too much hard very often...

I tried searching on pfs forums for anyone else who has mentioned this symptom but with no luck. I thought I was the only one. Thanks for letting me know, and in my experience it's nothing to worry about.

Yes, same here I do not mind and do not worry about it...I just noticed it different times but I repeat I had multiple checks to my balls and everything is fine so I guess there is nothing to worry about.

 

[Goose12]

It's now been 8 days since my last dose of ru. My newest improvement has been more dick sensitivity. I have been like this for so long I forgot how it felt and didn't realize how bad off I was in this area.

Last night I got my first full blown erection from just thinking about sex and it felt great. I have also seen been getting small but noticeable burst of labido.

Right now I have started taking Spurlina and Chorella supplements and a high quality multivitamin. I have stopped taking the Mucana because headache are not an issue anymore. Those are the only supplements I am taking.

The reason I started taking them was I felt like my body was missing something. My hunger was getting out of control and I was never satisfied, but that has been taken care by the multivitamin, Chorella, and Spurlina.

 

[IHateFin]

It's now been 8 days since my last dose of ru. My newest improvement has been more dick sensitivity. I have been like this for so long I forgot how it felt and didn't realize how bad off I was in this area.

Last night I got my first full blown erection from just thinking about sex and it felt great. I have also seen been getting small but noticeable burst of labido.

Right now I have started taking Spurlina and Chorella supplements and a high quality multivitamin. I have stopped taking the Mucana because headache are not an issue anymore. Those are the only supplements I am taking.

The reason I started taking them was I felt like my body was missing something. My hunger was getting out of control and I was never satisfied, but that has been taken care by the multivitamin, Chorella, and Spurlina.

That's what's up!! Hey man maybe 3 day ru is getting closer to the perfect run for this stuff. Glad you're feeling better!

 

[TubZy]

It's now been 8 days since my last dose of ru. My newest improvement has been more dick sensitivity. I have been like this for so long I forgot how it felt and didn't realize how bad off I was in this area.

Last night I got my first full blown erection from just thinking about sex and it felt great. I have also seen been getting small but noticeable burst of labido.

Right now I have started taking Spurlina and Chorella supplements and a high quality multivitamin. I have stopped taking the Mucana because headache are not an issue anymore. Those are the only supplements I am taking.

The reason I started taking them was I felt like my body was missing something. My hunger was getting out of control and I was never satisfied, but that has been taken care by the multivitamin, Chorella, and Spurlina.

Just saw this man, that is awesome, keep us posted!

 

[Goose12]

It's now been 8 days since my last dose of ru. My newest improvement has been more dick sensitivity. I have been like this for so long I forgot how it felt and didn't realize how bad off I was in this area.

Last night I got my first full blown erection from just thinking about sex and it felt great. I have also seen been getting small but noticeable burst of labido.

Right now I have started taking Spurlina and Chorella supplements and a high quality multivitamin. I have stopped taking the Mucana because headache are not an issue anymore. Those are the only supplements I am taking.

The reason I started taking them was I felt like my body was missing something. My hunger was getting out of control and I was never satisfied, but that has been taken care by the multivitamin, Chorella, and Spurlina.

That's what's up!! Hey man maybe 3 day ru is getting closer to the perfect run for this stuff. Glad you're feeling better!

Thanks man, I still have a ways to go but I'm getting there. The last 10% or so is the hardest. I am so close to the finish line.

Even if ru is not the all around cure its definitely a huge piece to the puzzle. My mood and anxiety were prefin before but now it's even better. That has been one of the most noticeable benifits.

From reading others ru logs and my experience this seems to be the cure to pfs anxiety, and I would recommend it to others based on this. It's hard to make any improvements until you get rid of you anxiety and sleep comes back.

I am wanting to run another ru trial, but I don't know how long to wait. I have heard snap back can take anywhere from two weeks to two months. Whats your thoughts on this [mention]IHateFin[/mention]? And if I should wait two months do you think I can add herbs in during that time? Just curious what you and everyone else thinks.

 

[Goose12]

Just saw this man, that is awesome, keep us posted!

Thanks TubZy, will do. Improvements have been slow but I am getting there. I feel really good about RU, it feels like it's going stick. I can usually tell when something is going to stick because it feels natural.

When something doesn't stick you get improvements that just don't feel completely right or comes with bad sides.

If you don't mind me asking what's your plans for the future, are you going to run RU again? I think I remember reading some where that you were.

 

[Aleksandr]

It's now been 8 days since my last dose of ru. My newest improvement has been more dick sensitivity. I have been like this for so long I forgot how it felt and didn't realize how bad off I was in this area.

Last night I got my first full blown erection from just thinking about sex and it felt great. I have also seen been getting small but noticeable burst of labido.

Right now I have started taking Spurlina and Chorella supplements and a high quality multivitamin. I have stopped taking the Mucana because headache are not an issue anymore. Those are the only supplements I am taking.

The reason I started taking them was I felt like my body was missing something. My hunger was getting out of control and I was never satisfied, but that has been taken care by the multivitamin, Chorella, and Spurlina.

That's what's up!! Hey man maybe 3 day ru is getting closer to the perfect run for this stuff. Glad you're feeling better!

Thanks man, I still have a ways to go but I'm getting there. The last 10% or so is the hardest. I am so close to the finish line.

Even if ru is not the all around cure its definitely a huge piece to the puzzle. My mood and anxiety were prefin before but now it's even better. That has been one of the most noticeable benifits.

From reading others ru logs and my experience this seems to be the cure to pfs anxiety, and I would recommend it to others based on this. It's hard to make any improvements until you get rid of you anxiety and sleep comes back.

I am wanting to run another ru trial, but I don't know how long to wait. I have heard snap back can take anywhere from two weeks to two months. Whats your thoughts on this @IHateFin? And if I should wait two months do you think I can add herbs in during that time? Just curious what you and everyone else thinks.

Id take 2 months just be sure if it were me

 

[TubZy]

Just saw this man, that is awesome, keep us posted!

Thanks TubZy, will do. Improvements have been slow but I am getting there. I feel really good about RU, it feels like it's going stick. I can usually tell when something is going to stick because it feels natural.

When something doesn't stick you get improvements that just don't feel completely right or comes with bad sides.

If you don't mind me asking what's your plans for the future, are you going to run RU again? I think I remember reading some where that you were.

Yes man, I wish I ran the RU like you did the first time, I think I screwed myself towards the 6th-7th day on it (too long). I definitely improved from baseline for sure though so it still did work, but I probably lost a lot of the initial gains from staying on a higher dose for too long, because the first few days on it I felt cured back to normal again.

My next plans are to most likely give ella a try now, just waiting for it get back in stock on united MD (been waiting for 2 weeks now).

In the meantime, my licorice root came in today and I was planning on starting it tomm replicating what that guy did by just taking it on the weekend and gauging how I feel mid week during the snap back period. I will continue to do that until I get my hands on ella and run that like how expendables did.

I'm going to monitor your progress over the next week or so and if things stick than I might give RU a shot again but exactly the way you did it (3 day cycle).

 

[IHateFin]

It's now been 8 days since my last dose of ru. My newest improvement has been more dick sensitivity. I have been like this for so long I forgot how it felt and didn't realize how bad off I was in this area.

Last night I got my first full blown erection from just thinking about sex and it felt great. I have also seen been getting small but noticeable burst of labido.

Right now I have started taking Spurlina and Chorella supplements and a high quality multivitamin. I have stopped taking the Mucana because headache are not an issue anymore. Those are the only supplements I am taking.

The reason I started taking them was I felt like my body was missing something. My hunger was getting out of control and I was never satisfied, but that has been taken care by the multivitamin, Chorella, and Spurlina.

That's what's up!! Hey man maybe 3 day ru is getting closer to the perfect run for this stuff. Glad you're feeling better!

Thanks man, I still have a ways to go but I'm getting there. The last 10% or so is the hardest. I am so close to the finish line.

Even if ru is not the all around cure its definitely a huge piece to the puzzle. My mood and anxiety were prefin before but now it's even better. That has been one of the most noticeable benifits.

From reading others ru logs and my experience this seems to be the cure to pfs anxiety, and I would recommend it to others based on this. It's hard to make any improvements until you get rid of you anxiety and sleep comes back.

I am wanting to run another ru trial, but I don't know how long to wait. I have heard snap back can take anywhere from two weeks to two months. Whats your thoughts on this @IHateFin? And if I should wait two months do you think I can add herbs in during that time? Just curious what you and everyone else thinks.

i personally think a month at a minimum, but preferably 2 months would be a good time to wait. im sure a good rule of thumb is when you see the effects stop gradually getting better and just maintain to then stay at this new homeostasis for a few weeks. i think on your next cycle you should continue the three day but take half the dose so like 25 mg. the key that ru may be missing is allowing DHT to come back and kill estrogen like its meant to. this may be why your prefin in some aspects and not in other mainly sexual functioning. i think maybe a super short 3 day 10mg to 25mg dose could allow for prog to tank, estrogen to rise yet also not be much of an antiandrogen to allow dht to come back. im really liking the results so far man!

 

[Goose12]

Yes man, I wish I ran the RU like you did the first time, I think I screwed myself towards the 6th-7th day on it (too long). I definitely improved from baseline for sure though so it still did work, but I probably lost a lot of the initial gains from staying on a higher dose for too long, because the first few days on it I felt cured back to normal again.

My next plans are to most likely give ella a try now, just waiting for it get back in stock on united MD (been waiting for 2 weeks now).

In the meantime, my licorice root came in today and I was planning on starting it tomm replicating what that guy did by just taking it on the weekend and gauging how I feel mid week during the snap back period. I will continue to do that until I get my hands on ella and run that like how expendables did.

I'm going to monitor your progress over the next week or so and if things stick than I might give RU a shot again but exactly the way you did it (3 day cycle).

RU is definitely some pretty powerful stuff. I even wonder if 3 days was to long or maybe drop the dose down, but I have been doing pretty good good lately. My only negative were the headaches I had for the first two days after coming off but that could have been a good thing, because after that the snap back started. From what [mention]gbolduev[/mention] said it might be a bad thing if you feel better on ru. If you do you know you have been on too long.

I have ella on the way but I am a little scared to try it after reading gbolduev saying it could be like finasteride if you are not the right case. I ordered mine from https://goldpharma.com and it's taking forever to get. It sat in New York for eight days. Tracking shows it finally left yesterday.

I think licorice is a good idea. Hopefully you get good results.

 

[Goose12]

i personally think a month at a minimum, but preferably 2 months would be a good time to wait. im sure a good rule of thumb is when you see the effects stop gradually getting better and just maintain to then stay at this new homeostasis for a few weeks. i think on your next cycle you should continue the three day but take half the dose so like 25 mg. the key that ru may be missing is allowing DHT to come back and kill estrogen like its meant to. this may be why your prefin in some aspects and not in other mainly sexual functioning. i think maybe a super short 3 day 10mg to 25mg dose could allow for prog to tank, estrogen to rise yet also not be much of an antiandrogen to allow dht to come back. im really liking the results so far man!

Update, had some nice sex dreams last night. The last time this happened was the first time I took muscle gelz androhard for the first time. Also dick sensitivity keeps improving. I woke up from my dream grinding my bed lol. I didn't realize I had lost that sensation.

IhateFin I think you are exactly right on everything you said and I was thinking the same thing. If I need to run ru again I am thinking 25mg for three days, or even something like 100mg for one day.

 

[Aleksandr]

The licorice root run that guy did was a 2 days on, 5 days off cycle. Maybe that would ne good for ru too

 

[IHateFin]

i personally think a month at a minimum, but preferably 2 months would be a good time to wait. im sure a good rule of thumb is when you see the effects stop gradually getting better and just maintain to then stay at this new homeostasis for a few weeks. i think on your next cycle you should continue the three day but take half the dose so like 25 mg. the key that ru may be missing is allowing DHT to come back and kill estrogen like its meant to. this may be why your prefin in some aspects and not in other mainly sexual functioning. i think maybe a super short 3 day 10mg to 25mg dose could allow for prog to tank, estrogen to rise yet also not be much of an antiandrogen to allow dht to come back. im really liking the results so far man!

Update, had some nice sex dreams last night. The last time this happened was the first time I took muscle gelz androhard for the first time. Also dick sensitivity keeps improving. I woke up from my dream grinding my bed lol. I didn't realize I had lost that sensation.

IhateFin I think you are exactly right on everything you said and I was thinking the same thing. If I need to run ru again I am thinking 25mg for three days, or even something like 100mg for one day.

hahaha dude nice!
yeah back in the prefin days when i would have sex dreams i too would wake up humping my bed lol good times.

i think 10mg to 25mg for three days would be great or even that dose for 1 or 2 days, but i wouldnt go 100mg for 1 day as this dose could hit you with too much ru at once. now that youre doing so much better you will surely need much less ru486 to further your progress and 100mg at once will likely be a little too much antiandrogen action so when your progesterone tanks again (which is probably going to be a new much lower baseline now) you may not enable DHT to come back as much as you need it to.
you definitly have a lot of time to think about your next cycle cuz there is no rush, enjoying the progress each day, but i personally would not recommend taking a 50mg or higher dose now that your progesterone will be maintaining lower values. baby nudges would be better at this point i feel.

 

[Goose12]

hahaha dude nice!
yeah back in the prefin days when i would have sex dreams i too would wake up humping my bed lol good times.

i think 10mg to 25mg for three days would be great or even that dose for 1 or 2 days, but i wouldnt go 100mg for 1 day as this dose could hit you with too much ru at once. now that youre doing so much better you will surely need much less ru486 to further your progress and 100mg at once will likely be a little too much antiandrogen action so when your progesterone tanks again (which is probably going to be a new much lower baseline now) you may not enable DHT to come back as much as you need it to.
you definitly have a lot of time to think about your next cycle cuz there is no rush, enjoying the progress each day, but i personally would not recommend taking a 50mg or higher dose now that your progesterone will be maintaining lower values. baby nudges would be better at this point i feel.

The more I think about it you are exactly right and I was coming to the same conclusion. I still have to see this trial through and make sure things stick. It is hard to be patient lol.

As weird as it sounds, it was nice to hump the bed again lol!

 

[5 alpha]

Yes man, I wish I ran the RU like you did the first time, I think I screwed myself towards the 6th-7th day on it (too long). I definitely improved from baseline for sure though so it still did work, but I probably lost a lot of the initial gains from staying on a higher dose for too long, because the first few days on it I felt cured back to normal again.

My next plans are to most likely give ella a try now, just waiting for it get back in stock on united MD (been waiting for 2 weeks now).

In the meantime, my licorice root came in today and I was planning on starting it tomm replicating what that guy did by just taking it on the weekend and gauging how I feel mid week during the snap back period. I will continue to do that until I get my hands on ella and run that like how expendables did.

I'm going to monitor your progress over the next week or so and if things stick than I might give RU a shot again but exactly the way you did it (3 day cycle).

RU is definitely some pretty powerful stuff. I even wonder if 3 days was to long or maybe drop the dose down, but I have been doing pretty good good lately. My only negative were the headaches I had for the first two days after coming off but that could have been a good thing, because after that the snap back started. From what @gbolduev said it might be a bad thing if you feel better on ru. If you do you know you have been on too long.

I have ella on the way but I am a little scared to try it after reading gbolduev saying it could be like finasteride if you are not the right case. I ordered mine from https://goldpharma.com and it's taking forever to get. It sat in New York for eight days. Tracking shows it finally left yesterday.

I think licorice is a good idea. Hopefully you get good results.

nice updates! deff seems like you have got some noticeable improvements thus far and sounds promising. At how many days off would you say you started feeling the bounce back effect?

Did Gbold mention specifically why he thought Ella had more of a chance as acting as Finastride than RU would?

 

[Goose12]

[quote="5 alpha" post_id=2282 time=1508617092 user_id=57]

nice updates! deff seems like you have got some noticeable improvements thus far and sounds promising. At how many days off would you say you started feeling the bounce back effect?

Did Gbold mention specifically why he thought Ella had more of a chance as acting as Finastride than RU would?
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I started making noticeable improvements around day three of being off RU. The snap back isn't magic, it takes time.

Gbold didn't mention why or exactly what case it would work on. I just read it on his "REALLY DIRTY TRIALS" thread.

 

[IHateFin]

[quote="5 alpha" post_id=2282 time=1508617092 user_id=57]

nice updates! deff seems like you have got some noticeable improvements thus far and sounds promising. At how many days off would you say you started feeling the bounce back effect?

Did Gbold mention specifically why he thought Ella had more of a chance as acting as Finastride than RU would?

I started making noticeable improvements around day three of being off RU. The snap back isn't magic, it takes time.

Gbold didn't mention why or exactly what case it would work on. I just read it on his "REALLY DIRTY TRIALS" thread.
[/quote]

this is very much in line with what I felt on my 3 day ru cycle. at about day 3 or 4 is when things started to come back and improvements kept coming even 1 1/2 weeks out.

 

[5 alpha]

[quote="5 alpha" post_id=2282 time=1508617092 user_id=57]

nice updates! deff seems like you have got some noticeable improvements thus far and sounds promising. At how many days off would you say you started feeling the bounce back effect?

Did Gbold mention specifically why he thought Ella had more of a chance as acting as Finastride than RU would?

I started making noticeable improvements around day three of being off RU. The snap back isn't magic, it takes time.

Gbold didn't mention why or exactly what case it would work on. I just read it on his "REALLY DIRTY TRIALS" thread.

this is very much in line with what I felt on my 3 day ru cycle. at about day 3 or 4 is when things started to come back and improvements kept coming even 1 1/2 weeks out.
[/quote]

interesting!