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[Goose12]

[quote="5 alpha" post_id=2293 time=1508620013 user_id=57]

I started making noticeable improvements around day three of being off RU. The snap back isn't magic, it takes time.

Gbold didn't mention why or exactly what case it would work on. I just read it on his "REALLY DIRTY TRIALS" thread.

this is very much in line with what I felt on my 3 day ru cycle. at about day 3 or 4 is when things started to come back and improvements kept coming even 1 1/2 weeks out.

interesting!
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My improvements have been gradual. Dick sensitivity and brain connection have been slowly getting better and better. It's hard to compare day to day but from a week ago its a descent improvement.

 

[Goose12]

Update on ru run:

It's been exactly two weeks since my last dose of ru. About a week and a half in sexual sides stopped improving but everything has stuck so far. Dick sensitivity has been the biggest and most welcome improvement.

Lately I have noticed my body composition has changed back to normal, less fat around my stomach. Also my appetite has gone back to Prefin. All around I feel more like my old self.

All around I am happy I have taken ru.

 

[Shadow]

Awesome news Goose!!
What do you think is missing for you to consider being pre-fin?

 

[Goose12]

Awesome news Goose!!
What do you think is missing for you to consider being pre-fin?

I still have no labido, no spontaneous erections, morning wood could be stronger, and dick sensitivity has a little ways to go to being Prefin. That's all I have left, and I feel like labido would solve most of my problems.

On a positive note I feel almost 100% normal. Mood is better than prefin, body composition is great, skin is great, sleep is better than prefin, digestion is completely back to normal, energy is better than prefin, and my hair is starting to get thicker in my head. I took saw palmetto for my prostate and after that is when I started noticing hair loss.

I can't wait to get over this and go beyond and be a super human!! lol

 

[TubZy]

Thanks for the update man. That is great to hear. It seems like what happens to all of us is that each time post RU, DHT becomes more and more sensitive over baseline, but not 100%.

I would do another cycle lol. Also, I'm looking into ways to increase endogenous DHT with herbs that we can take while on RU and during the snap back period which could speed up the process.

 

[Goose12]

Thanks for the update man. That is great to hear. It seems like what happens to all of us is that each time post RU, DHT becomes more and more sensitive over baseline, but not 100%.

I would do another cycle lol. Also, I'm looking into ways to increase endogenous DHT with herbs that we can take while on RU and during the snap back period which could speed up the process.

I am planning on doing another cycle in a week. I am thinking three days at 10mg or one day at 10mg and cycle it once a week.

I think your theory on increasing dht while on and off RU is spot on, and if anything it won't hurt. Even with all the stuff [mention]IHateFin[/mention] was taking my cycle seemed to mirror his first cycle. So I don't think cofactors or certain herbs are going to hurt anything.

After my first run on ru I am more confident that this is a huge part of the puzzle. We just need to get dosing and cofactors down. To me ru was like CD protocol sped up.

 

[namaste]

Thanks for the update man. That is great to hear. It seems like what happens to all of us is that each time post RU, DHT becomes more and more sensitive over baseline, but not 100%.

I would do another cycle lol. Also, I'm looking into ways to increase endogenous DHT with herbs that we can take while on RU and during the snap back period which could speed up the process.

I am planning on doing another cycle in a week. I am thinking three days at 10mg or one day at 10mg and cycle it once a week.

I think your theory on increasing dht while on and off RU is spot on, and if anything it won't hurt. Even with all the stuff @IHateFin was taking my cycle seemed to mirror his first cycle. So I don't think cofactors or certain herbs are going to hurt anything.

After my first run on ru I am more confident that this is a huge part of the puzzle. We just need to get dosing and cofactors down. To me ru was like CD protocol sped up.

Glad to hear you are feeling better man. I'll be really curious to see how the mini cycles play out for you, as it's looking like that's the way we'll need to go in the future.

 

[IHateFin]

Thanks for the update man. That is great to hear. It seems like what happens to all of us is that each time post RU, DHT becomes more and more sensitive over baseline, but not 100%.

I would do another cycle lol. Also, I'm looking into ways to increase endogenous DHT with herbs that we can take while on RU and during the snap back period which could speed up the process.

yo, broski i fyou do another ru cycle try the 5mg to 10mg route with it kind of like ella. i feel like it should have such little antiandrogen action if any at all and still strong antiprog that will allow dht to come back. boron, creatine and Lcarnitine would be my suggestions for ways to increase endogenous dht at the same time.

 

[jacknap]

Thanks for the update man. That is great to hear. It seems like what happens to all of us is that each time post RU, DHT becomes more and more sensitive over baseline, but not 100%.

I would do another cycle lol. Also, I'm looking into ways to increase endogenous DHT with herbs that we can take while on RU and during the snap back period which could speed up the process.

yo, broski i fyou do another ru cycle try the 5mg to 10mg route with it kind of like ella. i feel like it should have such little antiandrogen action if any at all and still strong antiprog that will allow dht to come back. boron, creatine and Lcarnitine would be my suggestions for ways to increase endogenous dht at the same time.

maxout did a blend of two prohormones. one that's more forgiving to estrogen which got his libido back after cycle I believe.

 

[joekool]

You sound exactly in my spot. Almost there but some nagging remnants.

But I'm totally psyched for you and I'm sure we're all close.

Post any ideas about libido because I'm thinking of doing 5mg oral dhea to actually get a tad estrogen going...

But I chalk this as another successful Ru trial.. big time

 

[Goose12]

maxout did a blend of two prohormones. one that's more forgiving to estrogen which got his libido back after cycle I believe.

It was r Andro and 4 andro. I have thought the same thing. I have never done any tests but I would assume I have low estrogen since gyno has never been an issue and at my worst I had dry and sore joints (which I think is a low e side). 4 andro is on long and growing list of things to try.

 

[wuf]

You sound exactly in my spot. Almost there but some nagging remnants.

But I'm totally psyched for you and I'm sure we're all close.

Post any ideas about libido because I'm thinking of doing 5mg oral dhea to actually get a tad estrogen going...

But I chalk this as another successful Ru trial.. big time

I know it is weird for all of you but DHEA destroyed my sexual capacity.

 

[jacknap]

You sound exactly in my spot. Almost there but some nagging remnants.

But I'm totally psyched for you and I'm sure we're all close.

Post any ideas about libido because I'm thinking of doing 5mg oral dhea to actually get a tad estrogen going...

But I chalk this as another successful Ru trial.. big time

I know it is weird for all of you but DHEA destroyed my sexual capacity.

you didn't use the actual one that cd recommended though. you still think it was the androsterone?

[mention]gbolduev[/mention] [mention]TubZy[/mention]

I plan on doing iron mag lab cycles like cd/maxout did... is there anything I should be weary of? my first cycle I was thinking of doing 200mg two weeks, 400mg next two weeks, and 600mg MAYBE last two weeks.

this is the one i most likely will be using as I can't get the socal version yet.. 'super-r-andro-rx'

https://www.ironmaglabs.com/product/super-r-andro-rx/

 

[Goose12]

you didn't use the actual one that cd recommended though. you still think it was the androsterone?

@gbolduev @TubZy

I plan on doing iron mag lab cycles like cd/maxout did... is there anything I should be weary of? my first cycle I was thinking of doing 200mg two weeks, 400mg next two weeks, and 600mg MAYBE last two weeks.

this is the one i most likely will be using as I can't get the socal version yet.. 'super-r-andro-rx'

https://www.ironmaglabs.com/product/super-r-andro-rx/

R Andro is different than dhea. No one has ever reported any long term bad side effects, that I know of. I took up to 800mg and the worst thing that happened was excessive hair shedding, ridiculously hungry all the time, and at 800mg it burnt me out, I was taking naps in the middle of day.

If you keep it around 400 you should be able to keep those sides under control, maybe not the hair shedding but in my case it came back. I think you have a nice plan and if you feel burned out towards the end don't worry about ending around four weeks. I kind of wonder if you wouldn't get the same benefits from doing it two weeks compared to six. I want to test that theory out eventually.

 

[wuf]

You sound exactly in my spot. Almost there but some nagging remnants.

But I'm totally psyched for you and I'm sure we're all close.

Post any ideas about libido because I'm thinking of doing 5mg oral dhea to actually get a tad estrogen going...

But I chalk this as another successful Ru trial.. big time

I know it is weird for all of you but DHEA destroyed my sexual capacity.

you didn't use the actual one that cd recommended though. you still think it was the androsterone?

@gbolduev @TubZy

I plan on doing iron mag lab cycles like cd/maxout did... is there anything I should be weary of? my first cycle I was thinking of doing 200mg two weeks, 400mg next two weeks, and 600mg MAYBE last two weeks.

this is the one i most likely will be using as I can't get the socal version yet.. 'super-r-andro-rx'

https://www.ironmaglabs.com/product/super-r-andro-rx/

I told you I used DHEA not androsterone. Androsterone seems to be fine.

 

[IHateFin]

You sound exactly in my spot. Almost there but some nagging remnants.

But I'm totally psyched for you and I'm sure we're all close.

Post any ideas about libido because I'm thinking of doing 5mg oral dhea to actually get a tad estrogen going...

But I chalk this as another successful Ru trial.. big time

I know it is weird for all of you but DHEA destroyed my sexual capacity.

DHEA fucks me up too bro like bad

 

[IHateFin]

You sound exactly in my spot. Almost there but some nagging remnants.

But I'm totally psyched for you and I'm sure we're all close.

Post any ideas about libido because I'm thinking of doing 5mg oral dhea to actually get a tad estrogen going...

But I chalk this as another successful Ru trial.. big time

I know it is weird for all of you but DHEA destroyed my sexual capacity.

you didn't use the actual one that cd recommended though. you still think it was the androsterone?

@gbolduev @TubZy

I plan on doing iron mag lab cycles like cd/maxout did... is there anything I should be weary of? my first cycle I was thinking of doing 200mg two weeks, 400mg next two weeks, and 600mg MAYBE last two weeks.

this is the one i most likely will be using as I can't get the socal version yet.. 'super-r-andro-rx'

https://www.ironmaglabs.com/product/super-r-andro-rx/

Randro isn't DHEA is 5 alpha reduced DHEA aka androsterone. Some great shit man

 

[5 alpha]

Goose.

I know you where doing pretty good before your RU run but by how much percentage wise over all do you think it improved you ?

do you plan on doing another RU run?

 

[Goose12]

[quote="5 alpha" post_id=3486 time=1509833094 user_id=57]
Goose.

I know you where doing pretty good before your RU run but by how much percentage wise over all do you think it improved you ?

do you plan on doing another RU run?
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It's hard to give an over all percentage of improvements from ru because my improvements from ru were specific. I would say it put my dick sensitivity from a 20% to a 80%,my biggest improvement from ru. My mood from a 95% to a 110%, better than Pre saw palmetto. Also after RU I feel 100% normal again, like my metabolism, digestion, and all other body functions are in balance again, I was maybe 90% before.

About two weeks after stop ru I didn't notice any more improvements and my labido was still around 10%, orgasms 30%, morning wood 50%, and ejaculate volume 50%. These are my biggest issues I have left.

But the real magic of ru started when I started cycling herbs again. They are a lot stronger after RU. I have started cycling the herbs again 7 days ago. I don't want to jinx my self but my labido and orgasms has jumped up 60% each, for the last 3 days, and my ejaculate strength and volume has increased. My labido has never gone above 10% for the last 6 months so it feels great to finally have a labido again.

I feel like I could go the rest of the way to being 100% on just [mention]Cdsnuts[/mention] protocol. So I don't know if I will do ru again. I think I will wait and see how far I get with the protocol. My biggest concern right now is weak morning wood.

What about you 5 alpha, what's your plans now? It seems like we both got pretty good results from ru.

 

[5 alpha]

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