Hair loss theory

[Slayo]

What do you think about this hair loss theory @Helen ? Hair Loss Help Forums - Interesting (New?) Theory On baldness

 

[bruschi11]

These were chilln on the allthingsmale forum's theories.

I was a benefactor of chilln's theories pre-PFS. Not for hair loss though.

Read post #5 here... https://hackstasis.com/threads/brus...ighting-cfs-lyme-and-post-drug-disorders.798/

 

[Helen]

What do you think about this hair loss theory @Helen ? Hair Loss Help Forums - Interesting (New?) Theory On baldness

First, Cortisol and progesterone go opposite of each other, when one is high another should be low. Secondly cortisol and adrenaline go up when thyroid is fast. to cap thyroid body converts testosterone into estrogen and prolactin , prolactin helps to retain calcium.

So when you see high cortisol high lactic acid, high estrogen, most probably person is a fast oxidizer. Actually these people tend to have high TSH, and high t4 to t3 conversion. And people think if they have high TSH they are hypothyroid, when in reality they are hyperthyroid. And TSH is high since the body want to produce t4 hormone to make reverse t3 out of it, to slow down the metabolism.

SO if you are hypothyroid , then cortisol will be low. and estrogen or copper wont be available, since adrenaline is not needed. And this way , since testosterone does not convert much into estrogen, there is more of it available for DHT

the problem with increasing thyroid or progesterone for hairloss, that in most cases, the body cant produce adrenaline, since glutathione is down. and the body cant recycle vitamin C and E, which are needed for adrenaline production.

Thus if you take thyroid or progesterone, without being able to produce adrenaline, the whole pressure will just go on cortisol. and cortisol will eat your hairline away .

This is why many people who tried thyroid , just found themselves with less and thinner hair.

The goal for hairloss is to have more of a fat and sugar metabolism open. and leave cortisol alone. Thyroid should be also running at good speed, not fast not slow. Thyroid is always regulated by glutathione , this is why forcing thyroid with supplements makes no sense.

Potassium in the cell is retained by progesterone, the higher potassium in the cell goes , the more progesterone will convert into cortisol. Since potassium is what makes thyroid hormone sensitive in the cell. So the higher potassium in the cell, the more thyroid effect you have , the less progesterone you need and the more cortisol you need.


So hairloss is the lack of glutathione recycling mostly. could be copper toxicity. All steroids production starts with NADPH. Since body know if there is no NADPH there is no adrenaline and if there is no adrenaline, then metabolism is not allowed to run fast.


This is why many people actually find that things that kill their metabolism slows down the hairloss.

Althought if you kill metabolism too low, then you will have no digestion at all. SO hairloss will be from protein deficiency , and if you speed up too much cortisol will burn your hair for energy.


For those slow oxidizers that have perfect hair on the sides and body , but have horse shoe problem , I think this has to do with low circulation problems. And high DHT is since estrogen is simply not needed.

Those people need to increase their metabolism , and it will make more conversion into estrogen than into DHT. And this will increase Co2 production inside of the cell which will increase circulation.

 

[Joshuk]

im buying into a peptide at the moment that is acting on the CXX5 protein its to do with WNT/ b catenin

its being funded by the korean goverment right now in trials im 90% sure this is the cure

its all to do with growth factors and feedback loops in wnt pathway

 

[Helen]

im buying into a peptide at the moment that is acting on the CXX5 protein its to do with WNT/ b catenin

its being funded by the korean goverment right now in trials im 90% sure this is the cure

its all to do with growth factors and feedback loops in wnt pathway

that is zinc finger . We dont know how turning off zinc finger will act on the rest of the body. I wrote extensively about it, that zinc finger could be high or low .

 

[Helen]

In any case, by 2020. Hairloss will be over since they will be able to grow as many graphts are possible from your hair. So transplants would be insane quality . you can get hair better than you were born with )) I think this stem cell thing will be approved by 2020.

 

[Helen]

But it wont fix your metabolism. And i think hair is the best thing to gauge your metabolism by , it is not a genetic problem, hairloss is a severe metabolic problem. So fixing it with peptides, finasterides, all kinds of topicals, transplants etc. IMO just worthless. Unless you just want hair.

 

[brix]

First, Cortisol and progesterone go opposite of each other, when one is high another should be low. Secondly cortisol and adrenaline go up when thyroid is fast. to cap thyroid body converts testosterone into estrogen and prolactin , prolactin helps to retain calcium.

So when you see high cortisol high lactic acid, high estrogen, most probably person is a fast oxidizer. Actually these people tend to have high TSH, and high t4 to t3 conversion. And people think if they have high TSH they are hypothyroid, when in reality they are hyperthyroid. And TSH is high since the body want to produce t4 hormone to make reverse t3 out of it, to slow down the metabolism.

SO if you are hypothyroid , then cortisol will be low. and estrogen or copper wont be available, since adrenaline is not needed. And this way , since testosterone does not convert much into estrogen, there is more of it available for DHT

the problem with increasing thyroid or progesterone for hairloss, that in most cases, the body cant produce adrenaline, since glutathione is down. and the body cant recycle vitamin C and E, which are needed for adrenaline production.

Thus if you take thyroid or progesterone, without being able to produce adrenaline, the whole pressure will just go on cortisol. and cortisol will eat your hairline away .

This is why many people who tried thyroid , just found themselves with less and thinner hair.

The goal for hairloss is to have more of a fat and sugar metabolism open. and leave cortisol alone. Thyroid should be also running at good speed, not fast not slow. Thyroid is always regulated by glutathione , this is why forcing thyroid with supplements makes no sense.

Potassium in the cell is retained by progesterone, the higher potassium in the cell goes , the more progesterone will convert into cortisol. Since potassium is what makes thyroid hormone sensitive in the cell. So the higher potassium in the cell, the more thyroid effect you have , the less progesterone you need and the more cortisol you need.


So hairloss is the lack of glutathione recycling mostly. could be copper toxicity. All steroids production starts with NADPH. Since body know if there is no NADPH there is no adrenaline and if there is no adrenaline, then metabolism is not allowed to run fast.


This is why many people actually find that things that kill their metabolism slows down the hairloss.

Althought if you kill metabolism too low, then you will have no digestion at all. SO hairloss will be from protein deficiency , and if you speed up too much cortisol will burn your hair for energy.


For those slow oxidizers that have perfect hair on the sides and body , but have horse shoe problem , I think this has to do with low circulation problems. And high DHT is since estrogen is simply not needed.

Those people need to increase their metabolism , and it will make more conversion into estrogen than into DHT. And this will increase Co2 production inside of the cell which will increase circulation.

Interesting about the fast oxidizer and thyroid. I’m a fast and my TSH is high, low ft4 and mid-high ft3. However, my temps are always low.

If you think these people are copper toxic, the. Why do you and ARL suggest copper for fast oxidizers?

 

[Helen]

Interesting about the fast oxidizer and thyroid. I’m a fast and my TSH is high, low ft4 and mid-high ft3. However, my temps are always low.

If you think these people are copper toxic, the. Why do you and ARL suggest copper for fast oxidizers?

I did not say fast oxidizer are copper toxic.

I described at least 3-4 cases

 

[Troy]

First, Cortisol and progesterone go opposite of each other, when one is high another should be low. Secondly cortisol and adrenaline go up when thyroid is fast. to cap thyroid body converts testosterone into estrogen and prolactin , prolactin helps to retain calcium.

So when you see high cortisol high lactic acid, high estrogen, most probably person is a fast oxidizer. Actually these people tend to have high TSH, and high t4 to t3 conversion. And people think if they have high TSH they are hypothyroid, when in reality they are hyperthyroid. And TSH is high since the body want to produce t4 hormone to make reverse t3 out of it, to slow down the metabolism.

SO if you are hypothyroid , then cortisol will be low. and estrogen or copper wont be available, since adrenaline is not needed. And this way , since testosterone does not convert much into estrogen, there is more of it available for DHT

the problem with increasing thyroid or progesterone for hairloss, that in most cases, the body cant produce adrenaline, since glutathione is down. and the body cant recycle vitamin C and E, which are needed for adrenaline production.

Thus if you take thyroid or progesterone, without being able to produce adrenaline, the whole pressure will just go on cortisol. and cortisol will eat your hairline away .

This is why many people who tried thyroid , just found themselves with less and thinner hair.

The goal for hairloss is to have more of a fat and sugar metabolism open. and leave cortisol alone. Thyroid should be also running at good speed, not fast not slow. Thyroid is always regulated by glutathione , this is why forcing thyroid with supplements makes no sense.

Potassium in the cell is retained by progesterone, the higher potassium in the cell goes , the more progesterone will convert into cortisol. Since potassium is what makes thyroid hormone sensitive in the cell. So the higher potassium in the cell, the more thyroid effect you have , the less progesterone you need and the more cortisol you need.


So hairloss is the lack of glutathione recycling mostly. could be copper toxicity. All steroids production starts with NADPH. Since body know if there is no NADPH there is no adrenaline and if there is no adrenaline, then metabolism is not allowed to run fast.


This is why many people actually find that things that kill their metabolism slows down the hairloss.

Althought if you kill metabolism too low, then you will have no digestion at all. SO hairloss will be from protein deficiency , and if you speed up too much cortisol will burn your hair for energy.


For those slow oxidizers that have perfect hair on the sides and body , but have horse shoe problem , I think this has to do with low circulation problems. And high DHT is since estrogen is simply not needed.

Those people need to increase their metabolism , and it will make more conversion into estrogen than into DHT. And this will increase Co2 production inside of the cell which will increase circulation.

For the fast oxidisers with hairloss due to cortisol, could taking aminos plus electrolytes every day be a way to sort this out? Is it okay to take aminos and electrolytes every day as I know you are against taking stuff long term?

 

[Blue88]

First, Cortisol and progesterone go opposite of each other, when one is high another should be low. Secondly cortisol and adrenaline go up when thyroid is fast. to cap thyroid body converts testosterone into estrogen and prolactin , prolactin helps to retain calcium.

So when you see high cortisol high lactic acid, high estrogen, most probably person is a fast oxidizer. Actually these people tend to have high TSH, and high t4 to t3 conversion. And people think if they have high TSH they are hypothyroid, when in reality they are hyperthyroid. And TSH is high since the body want to produce t4 hormone to make reverse t3 out of it, to slow down the metabolism.

SO if you are hypothyroid , then cortisol will be low. and estrogen or copper wont be available, since adrenaline is not needed. And this way , since testosterone does not convert much into estrogen, there is more of it available for DHT

the problem with increasing thyroid or progesterone for hairloss, that in most cases, the body cant produce adrenaline, since glutathione is down. and the body cant recycle vitamin C and E, which are needed for adrenaline production.

Thus if you take thyroid or progesterone, without being able to produce adrenaline, the whole pressure will just go on cortisol. and cortisol will eat your hairline away .

This is why many people who tried thyroid , just found themselves with less and thinner hair.

The goal for hairloss is to have more of a fat and sugar metabolism open. and leave cortisol alone. Thyroid should be also running at good speed, not fast not slow. Thyroid is always regulated by glutathione , this is why forcing thyroid with supplements makes no sense.

Potassium in the cell is retained by progesterone, the higher potassium in the cell goes , the more progesterone will convert into cortisol. Since potassium is what makes thyroid hormone sensitive in the cell. So the higher potassium in the cell, the more thyroid effect you have , the less progesterone you need and the more cortisol you need.


So hairloss is the lack of glutathione recycling mostly. could be copper toxicity. All steroids production starts with NADPH. Since body know if there is no NADPH there is no adrenaline and if there is no adrenaline, then metabolism is not allowed to run fast.


This is why many people actually find that things that kill their metabolism slows down the hairloss.

Althought if you kill metabolism too low, then you will have no digestion at all. SO hairloss will be from protein deficiency , and if you speed up too much cortisol will burn your hair for energy.


For those slow oxidizers that have perfect hair on the sides and body , but have horse shoe problem , I think this has to do with low circulation problems. And high DHT is since estrogen is simply not needed.

Those people need to increase their metabolism , and it will make more conversion into estrogen than into DHT. And this will increase Co2 production inside of the cell which will increase circulation.

@Helen - how long would you say is required for the slow oxidiser approach (increase metabolism to convert more to estrogen) to show meaningful results in somebody's hair? i.e. fuller, thicker hair and cessation of shedding.

It would be good to hear your take on Immortal Hair's theory - Immortalhair.org

He likes Ecklonia Cava as a supplement - your thoughts?

 

[Blue88]

Anybody have any thoughts on t

@Helen - how long would you say is required for the slow oxidiser approach (increase metabolism to convert more to estrogen) to show meaningful results in somebody's hair? i.e. fuller, thicker hair and cessation of shedding.

It would be good to hear your take on Immortal Hair's theory - Immortalhair.org

He likes Ecklonia Cava as a supplement - your thoughts?

Anybody have any thoughts on the above?

 

[Troy]

First, Cortisol and progesterone go opposite of each other, when one is high another should be low. Secondly cortisol and adrenaline go up when thyroid is fast. to cap thyroid body converts testosterone into estrogen and prolactin , prolactin helps to retain calcium.

So when you see high cortisol high lactic acid, high estrogen, most probably person is a fast oxidizer. Actually these people tend to have high TSH, and high t4 to t3 conversion. And people think if they have high TSH they are hypothyroid, when in reality they are hyperthyroid. And TSH is high since the body want to produce t4 hormone to make reverse t3 out of it, to slow down the metabolism.

SO if you are hypothyroid , then cortisol will be low. and estrogen or copper wont be available, since adrenaline is not needed. And this way , since testosterone does not convert much into estrogen, there is more of it available for DHT

the problem with increasing thyroid or progesterone for hairloss, that in most cases, the body cant produce adrenaline, since glutathione is down. and the body cant recycle vitamin C and E, which are needed for adrenaline production.

Thus if you take thyroid or progesterone, without being able to produce adrenaline, the whole pressure will just go on cortisol. and cortisol will eat your hairline away .

This is why many people who tried thyroid , just found themselves with less and thinner hair.

The goal for hairloss is to have more of a fat and sugar metabolism open. and leave cortisol alone. Thyroid should be also running at good speed, not fast not slow. Thyroid is always regulated by glutathione , this is why forcing thyroid with supplements makes no sense.

Potassium in the cell is retained by progesterone, the higher potassium in the cell goes , the more progesterone will convert into cortisol. Since potassium is what makes thyroid hormone sensitive in the cell. So the higher potassium in the cell, the more thyroid effect you have , the less progesterone you need and the more cortisol you need.


So hairloss is the lack of glutathione recycling mostly. could be copper toxicity. All steroids production starts with NADPH. Since body know if there is no NADPH there is no adrenaline and if there is no adrenaline, then metabolism is not allowed to run fast.


This is why many people actually find that things that kill their metabolism slows down the hairloss.

Althought if you kill metabolism too low, then you will have no digestion at all. SO hairloss will be from protein deficiency , and if you speed up too much cortisol will burn your hair for energy.


For those slow oxidizers that have perfect hair on the sides and body , but have horse shoe problem , I think this has to do with low circulation problems. And high DHT is since estrogen is simply not needed.

Those people need to increase their metabolism , and it will make more conversion into estrogen than into DHT. And this will increase Co2 production inside of the cell which will increase circulation.

Do we have any protocols to address the above issues to sort hairloss that we can take every day for the rest of our lives?

 

[HerrFisch]

Do we have any protocols to address the above issues to sort hairloss that we can take every day for the rest of our lives?

Thats exactly how it wont work lol.
At some point even water kills a plant right?

 

[Troy]

Thats exactly how it wont work lol.
At some point even water kills a plant right?

What do you mean?

 

[HerrFisch]

Its like when you go from zinc deficiency to zinc excess. You have to stop at some point. Otherwise you will create other imbalances.

 

[tallglass13]

@Helen ..Hi, were you aware that Haidut didn't have a lot of hair. I was very surprised. Not that it is bad or anything, I love haidut, but I was under the impression he had a lot of hair.

 

[TubZy]

@Helen ..Hi, were you aware that Haidut didn't have a lot of hair. I was very surprised. Not that it is bad or anything, I love haidut, but I was under the impression he had a lot of hair.

Didnt he say he has hair or something I thought?

 

[Helen]

@Helen ..Hi, were you aware that Haidut didn't have a lot of hair. I was very surprised. Not that it is bad or anything, I love haidut, but I was under the impression he had a lot of hair.

Haidut is bald? I was under impression Peats diet should give you hair like a fox. ))

 

[tallglass13]

Hahaha, well maybe he started late. But yes, his hair was very short, very high hairline. Again, I like Haidut, and like his work and his company. I don't like to comment on peoples appearance because I believe its un-polite and mean. However, I hope he can regrow his hair, just like i'm trying to re-grow my hair. I just assumed he had a full head of hair. He had a full beard up to his cheeks, and he looks powerful. Danny's hair is getting bigger and better every time I see him.