Health Log - UPDATE 7 MONTHS INTO TEI (CYCLE #3)

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I've been following ARL regime (4 lows) and attending intensive psychotherapy for over 2 months. It changed a lot but I feel like it doesn't fit me anymore and I need to readjust my diet and supplementation.

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Current situation:

Libido/penis
morning erection from time to time
a tiny burst of libido from time to time
flaccid length increased
erect girth increased
soft gland increased

Cognitive/Emotional health
got a new girlfriend
able to withstand more stress
more positive about future
more stable
more manly
Hormones
Highest natural testosterone and LH levels in my life
Highest natural prolactin and estradiol levels in my life
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Doctor prescribed Cabergoline (0,5 mg every 7 days) and Clomifene (2x25 mg every day) to "fix" me based on results from 2018-06-20. I decided to take Cabergoline only (and added Exemestane on my own) and see how it works.

Other
dandruff gone
skin imperfections gone
softer facial hair
massive drops of energy after betaine HCl (even from 200 mg)
in need of daily naps
developed tinnitus (it doesn't really bother me - can't notice it during the day and I can sleep well)


I see 3 ways now:
1. Send hair to ARL or TEI and continue supplement route
2. RU way (I'm leaning towards it):
day 1: RU 10 mg​
day 2: RU 10 mg​
day 3: RU 10 mg​
days 9-16: progesterone 3 mg every day (topically to scrotum)​
(while taking Cabergoline)​
options for further days:
a) wait 7 days and run another RU + Progesterone​
b) wait 7 days and run Progesterone cycle​
c) start R-Andro 4-6 weeks ~500mg every day (+ optionally Epi-Andro + optionally followed by Clomid way - #3 on the list)​
d) do nothing and enjoy crazy gains​
3. Clomid way (taken from this topic @Helen @joekool):
Dostinex 0.25mg every 4 days​
Clomid 150mg first 3 days, 100mg next 4 days, then 2 weeks 50mg, one week 25 mg.​
When you start lowering Clomid, you add Zinc 30mg-50 mg, vitamin E and NAD 500mg​
(while taking Cabergoline)​
Optionally I'd throw in some Proviron, Sulforaphane, Exemestane.​
I will do anything in my power to recover from this thing and not fail why doing I don't see it as some stupid alpha/beta male thing but as an obstacle to be overcome and go on with life. Your suggestion is most welcome! :]
 

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Sound like awesome improvements, Health.

You won’t be balanced from a single ARL cycle, unless you only had minor unbalances. Take the hairtest and continue the program. You want to know where you are at. Would drop the betaine HCL. They wil give you GB3, which should suffice. Betaine made me groggy, depressed and no libido. You could add silica to help eliminate the Aluminum. Wouldn’t add much else.

Did the testosterone increase because of ARL, you think?

The hormone alternatives are not something that fits ARL. They will not stick and unbalance you even further, even though you might feel better whilst on it.
 
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Did the testosterone increase because of ARL, you think?

Yeah, I think so. It wasn't bad but never as high as in this last lab. I'd say the biggest positive change is in LH.

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The hormone alternatives are not something that fits ARL. They will not stick and unbalance you even further, even though you might feel better whilst on it.

I think this might be the only way to fix my penis :< My gland is soft even when it's painfully erect. I'd also love to feel some normal libido. Hasn't really had it in a while (except these few mild bursts).
 

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I feel beaten down. Progesterone DOUBLED after 3 days of RU. I have no idea what to do next.
0 libido - can't even imagine myself having sexual thoughts.
0 energy - I feel depressed.
 

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Most benefits will happen in the coming weeks, not while on it. At least that is my observation from those who trial RU or Ella. Don’t worry :)
 

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Have you taken prog yet? That will make u feel worse.

You blocked cortisol heavily with RU. A lot of people will feel like shit when they do this. Take it easy, relax, if you have to take day off from work or something do it if u can.

You should be ok within a couple days max after stopping RU. Then u can start prog, or u don’t even have to. If RU makes u feel bad, prog might make u feel worse. But it wouldn’t be stupid to try one drop in a couple days after this bad period.
 

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@bruschi11 @Admiral

Thanks! It's hard to express how helpful your words are. Damn, I'm really balancing on the edge. I think it will be smarter if I just go hair testing route (maybe TEI this time...) instead of jumping on hormones without supervision...

I even started to think about psychiatrist and Buspar/Moclobemide/Pramipexole...
Damn, it's so rough...:')

Have you taken prog yet? That will make u feel worse.

No I haven't
Now that RU swept floor with me I'm more into NOT using prog after it.
 

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How do you measure your blood so fast though? It always takes my doctor/hospital at least a week before they have results. Yours come within 24 hours it seems..
 

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How do you measure your blood so fast though? It always takes my doctor/hospital at least a week before they have results. Yours come within 24 hours it seems..

I deliberately go to local maternity hospital. They have the cheapest and quickest lab around. Actually, if I get my blood drawn at 8 am, then at 4pm results are ready.
 

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I'm sweating MUCH more
Libido is non existant
Energy is low
Water retention is high


I don't feel like I have competence to play with progesterone or more RU :<
I'll probably do ARL/TEI or water fast > 20 days...



Assume you are in 4 lows - which one would you chose - ARL or TEI?
 
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I'm sweating MUCH more
Libido is non existant
Energy is low
Water retention is high


I don't feel like I have competence to play with progesterone or more RU :<
I'll probably do ARL/TEI or water fast > 20 days...



Assume you are in 4 lows - which one would you chose - ARL or TEI?
I'm back in 4 lows, and for me ARL zinc doses were too high, but their high Ca/Mg doses worked well. I'm now on TEI, which doesn't give as much zinc or Ca/Mg, so I am taking a bit more Ca/Mg on top of their suggestions. Feeling pretty good, and at times very good on this after about a week. We'll see if things continue to improve.
 

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Good stuff @Niles !

Prolactin might be through the roof, hormones all over the place from RU @health . I wouldn’t fast if I were you as RU is still blocking cortisol potently causing some of your issues.

I’m sure prolactin is reason why libido is so low. It was funny with RU first few days I was great and then I couldn’t get a hard on at a strip club on day 4- my first day after.

I think you’re attitude in the way you’re approaching this is better fitted with ARL/ TEI balancing and if you’re in 4 lows, you have to get out of it.

I was interested to see how RU would go for you but if it really hurts quality of life as much as it is affecting u, probably not worth it.

Beat this illness you have now with health @health lol
 

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Prolactin might be through the roof, hormones all over the place from RU

Bro, my prolactin is below the norm!
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I'm back in 4 lows, and for me ARL zinc doses were too high, but their high Ca/Mg doses worked well. I'm now on TEI, which doesn't give as much zinc or Ca/Mg, so I am taking a bit more Ca/Mg on top of their suggestions. Feeling pretty good, and at times very good on this after about a week. We'll see if things continue to improve.

Damn, I think my ARL doses were overpowered too. Eventually, I could either move all supplements to evening or not be able to resist going to be after 1st and second meal during working hours. Nevertheless it significantly boosted my hormones.
I'll seek for good european TEI practitioners.

I think you’re attitude in the way you’re approaching this is better fitted with ARL/ TEI balancing and if you’re in 4 lows, you have to get out of it.

I was interested to see how RU would go for you but if it really hurts quality of life as much as it is affecting u, probably not worth it.

Beat this illness you have now with health @health lol

Fuckdamn, there are so many things going on at once... You're right, ARL/TEI should be best. That Progestene is tempting me, but that 4 lows condition should be probably taken care of first...

Well, RU did not go well for me;) At least for now...

Wish you all health too:>!
 

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-Damn man, you're really organized. With your tracking and everything.
-ARL / TEI should be easy for you...... minus the detox/changes... probably not easy, but a detailed tracking-measuring-alongside it will do you well.
-Also, how do you know RU didn't go well? As in worse symptoms or no effects?
-I kind of didn't feel anything too too strongly (except Randro - even then I don't "feel" it, rather than I'm more motivated to workout/beat this thing (pfs).
-Cummulative effects. ANd also: spacing things out.
-there def is a lot going on at once. You're still in school rite? So you're capable of beating this thing. Not to sound, all happy and shyt, I'm just saying.
-RU I believe did help me... but like a lot of things it took several weeks (maybe 1-2 months or more), to see/ realize the positive gains.
-Later, may not have helped... but I will space things out more. ANd try one more time... and then TEI (I think rather than ARL).
 

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Not much difference after RU trial. Libido and muscle gains/pump is are close to non-existent. Energy is moderate. Got to move on with something.

Considering 3 options.

a) 30-40 day of water fast followed by TEI
b) TEI
c) electrolytes protocol (copper, zinc, manganese, high dose B complex, betaine HCl, whey protein)
 

MNK99

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A and b or a and c likely cure all kinds of shyt man.

Brilliant, concise plan. Nice!!
 
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I’m thinking balance a bit before fasting. Maybe just 2-3 weeks of TEI. Take a week off then fast.

I just did 3 day juice fast. Did 17 days coconu water/juice in July. Body wasn’t balanced in July when I did it and I feel like I didn’t accomplish much. It was extremely imbalanced from h2 water.

But this 3 day fast I’m on feels extremely powerful. Been essentially balancing for 3 weeks, a month now before this.
 
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