MNK99

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Yes I do not love Trump, but that would open doors you would think to research. Highly doubt it tho.

All those Hilary supporters that were crying would parade around the streets using racism and man hating and saying women have unreasonable standards, just look at barbie. Just look at He Man or Batman ... Lol.

Tired of mofos.

Bobby Bacala / Chris Christie 2020.

The side effects I had while on the drug are nothing compared to what came afterwards. Imagine Trump comes off fin and the most powerful man in the world crashes. I can tell you Mike Pence would become president a day later.
 

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I like Trump. Seems like a good dude. Would love to eat a steak with him. Would love to have a guy like him as president in The Netherlands.
 

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The side effects I had while on the drug are nothing compared to what came afterwards. Imagine Trump comes off fin and the most powerful man in the world crashes. I can tell you Mike Pence would become president a day later.

i don't think he will ever come off he values his hair too much and he is also pretty old, he will be on for life IMO. It is kinda funny that he is on fin though out of all drugs for someone his age since he really doesn't take anything else besides baby aspirin and low dose statin if I remember.
 

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The side effects I had while on the drug are nothing compared to what came afterwards. Imagine Trump comes off fin and the most powerful man in the world crashes. I can tell you Mike Pence would become president a day later.
The most powerful man? I wish it.
Did you notice how his hair has grayed recently? Check it. Gray hair came up really fast. Its 5ar impairment.
 

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i don't think he will ever come off he values his hair too much and he is also pretty old, he will be on for life IMO. It is kinda funny that he is on fin though out of all drugs for someone his age since he really doesn't take anything else besides baby aspirin and low dose statin if I remember.
You should never ever take statins. There is no bad Cholesterol. People should have cholesterol cause very important for the vessels! and with it for erections. People with superhigh levels of 600 are superhealthy. Body needs that.
 

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What do you mean. You have mentioned this a few times and esp 5AR type II, which is prostate related etc. What kind of impairment, like the one Fin does: suppresion, lowering DHT ?
I dont know what it is related to but read it. Impairment would mean here lowered level (3@diol) and with it lower dht and other metabolites.
 

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The most powerful man? I wish it.
Did you notice how his hair has grayed recently? Check it. Gray hair came up really fast. Its 5ar impairment.

Trump’s been on fin for many years I believe. Obama and Tony Blair rapidly went grey once they became president/prime minister, it’s the stress of the job. Could also be fin of course.
 
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Update

I am feeling much better. when I crashed I was so cold. and my balls got so small. today I am running at very high temperatures already and my balls doubled.
Dont know if this will stick.

I am basically running close to electrolytes protocol. Will keep you updated.
 

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Update

I am feeling much better. when I crashed I was so cold. and my balls got so small. today I am running at very high temperatures already and my balls doubled.
Dont know if this will stick.

I am basically running close to electrolytes protocol. Will keep you updated.

Good to hear
 

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I didnt regret that I took finasteride in the first place.
I do regret that I stopped it.

I had never imagined that you could feel worse from a drug after you stop it.
Never.
Unheard of.

The concept of drugs in our society is that once you quit the side effect goes away

But lots of stuff, finasteride, psych drugs, cause withdrawal issues. But unfortunately it doesn’t make sense to people unless it happens to them and they experience it. Then you understand the concept , but it’s too late. I wish I had experienced this concept personally (in a gentler way) before hearing about fin. Then I would have stayed away
 

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And permanent "side effects" (actually the true mechanism) that are "extremely rare", "do not persist", and "I've never heard of" (as per pharmacists and doctors).
Indeed, makes almost no sense at all to those unaffected till they see how fucked up your life has become, and the steps you've taken to fix it (personally speaking).

I remember some idiots saying I slur some words bc of all the "hard drugs" (literally alcohol, effexor, mj like 15 times) at that point. It was literally Effexor XR and whatever else they put me on back then. Then withdrawing from it and severe depression. Also hypomania, etc.

I still slur a bit, but 60% dead, I'm more articulate than all those assholes (when not too high or too low (mood, anxiety, etc -- or post-fin)). They don't realize how many of their peers in school and work are on serious drugs let alone prescription drugs (far worse). I could function fine on some obviously dangerous things, and not get out of bed or make sense at all on and after the RX ones. Being able to stay in the same tense and separate paragraphs may be partly medication caused, but it may have been happening anyways. Actually I couldn't get out of bed both after effexor and fin for some time. The first I got a lot better than started using alcohol etc again, then other things. So yeah, you're not good if your on drugs, but fine if you're on prescription ones... it's vexing. The same is true of societally acceptable drugs vs. the non social drugs. "Doctor knows best." Lol, I grew up around like 50 future docs.

I found that after not being on anything after quitting fin, I thought a family member was on something a lot of times... but they were usually not. They are ADHD and switch moods a bit here and there, but less than me. SO I can also see why others would think I'm on drugs (because my cognitive dysfunction is significantly worse than their's), esp if they see me "hyper" every single time they see me. BUT* what they don't know, is that not knowing all of this is a very lucky situation to be in. When I'm sober and tense, people want me to drink... so much hypocrisy. Eating all lean, want you to eat bread. And on and on.

People want you to be a certain way, but when you know you'll never be like them and only you and something drastically alters that 'you', that's devastating.
I hope all past tense for me.

TO put psyche and hormonal drugs in perspective: I literally quit inhalers sometimes bc of not remembering to refill them, not wanting to go to the doctor, lack of time... and that's for breathing. Jack shit occurs besides some wheezing. Quit effexor, seroquel, latuda, fin, duta, etc cold turkey --- and see what happens. You end up trying to solve an unsolvable chronic disease. You should see how many kids under 18 have permanent shaking and tremors and akasthisa, dyskinesias, etc from psyche drugs (for disorders that don't even exist in adolescence and are ALWAYS diagnosed incorrectly). It's a fucking joke. I like some psychiatrists, but the drugs and DSM are moronic.

Society and parents and schools and the common man do not know how to deal with people who are "different", so they label them, deride them, and drug them.
Not only that but they create a reality in which they need those drugs. Like some people I've seen who have tried like 60 different psyche drugs.

I'd rather be an educated, cost-benefit-analyzing drug-user than a zombie or a fat diabetic pill popping "common man", any fucking day.
 
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i don't think he will ever come off he values his hair too much and he is also pretty old, he will be on for life IMO. It is kinda funny that he is on fin though out of all drugs for someone his age since he really doesn't take anything else besides baby aspirin and low dose statin if I remember.
Joe Rogan guest was saying that he might be on some sorta upper like amphetamine diet pill kinda things. Is the trump and propecia thing true though or just a rumour? seems still just a rumour to me
 

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Joe Rogan guest was saying that he might be on some sorta upper like amphetamine diet pill kinda things. Is the trump and propecia thing true though or just a rumour? seems still just a rumour to me
It could be a rumour. I think he could have got an hair Transplantation re his hair in the sides (hair taken there). But his sluring and fast greying hair could be a sign of fin. He could additionally take amphetamins. But the great thing is his husband, sorry, wife. Wow. Trump is special. And good looking for beging 70!