Helen's crazy finasteride crash and log

[supernature]

But his sluring and fast greying hair could be a sign of fin.

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[Niles]

Joe Rogan guest was saying that he might be on some sorta upper like amphetamine diet pill kinda things. Is the trump and propecia thing true though or just a rumour? seems still just a rumour to me

The Trump and propecia thing is true, without a doubt. His personal physician reported that Trump is on it, and there are tons of articles from when that info came out.

 

[noprop]

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Heres again. Is this your personal observation of Fin effect or 5AR disbalance regarding gray hairs or it was suggested as a side effect already by @Helen.
Are you challenging the variant of disregulated 5AR due to Fin or some else and thus affecting Estrogens and related to copper metabolism and that way to hair color or what is it @noprop ?

A guy on solve explained that to me knows it better than I. Re Trump and fin we all can just guess. But I dont pay to much attention to that.
Btw Ph people are collecting 23andme data in order to analyse. Could be interesting for us AS well to collect from lets say 30 people and analyse as the root is epigenetic for sure.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

Unfort.there are up to twenty different Bad things (even strontium was found) in it.
I must say that if I knew how that world is running and why this way, I wished never to be born. Never. When your ennemies dont like you, okay. But when your own family destroys you (severe narcisstic personal disorder) from the beginning, I must admit that this is far worse but shows that some people in this world are poor re selfesteem and they want to lie to the others in order to weaken them and rescuing themselves. I never destroyed anybody. I ask myself what if I had the right! to destroy all those mofos who destroyed me? Would it be fair mean why cannot I but they? If millions of people understood whats going on, they might think about being very clear re steps. No military would stop a revolution. This is the fear. And thats why the mass and strong people must be controlled in any possible way. I am lucky that the human beeing wont survive in this universe and will be destroyed naturally. It takes time but will happen. I sometimes ask myself what is the reason I got born? To ASK this question? Its obvious: my fucking liar mother just wanted to have a family and get grandmother. Now she wont hehe and I never wanted to have a family either. Sometimes things are much more basic, essentiell than one might think.
There is a cartoon and in it you can See a mother and a daughter which hair is being treated by her mom. The girl ASK her mother (naively): Did you want a son or a daughter? Mother: I wanted to fuck.
Hahaha. At least she has the balls to say that. Lying and deceiving people are somehow weak. Even if they are clever or powerful. They are weak in their mind, I guess. Instead they should have learned to strengten themselves and would have a complete other life. The more you have the more you loose when you gonna die and you will have problems facing that. You will fear the death and if afterlife exists, you will struggle going there.

revolution is bad choice, you better educate, learn,think rationally, sharp your abilities, learn doing usefull things
start using your knowledge to help others, start spread knowledge like Helen and others did
and of course dont be pacifist,
ok it's Helen log, so I will stop offtop.Hope you will recover, and you have big balls, trying 3 times fin is brave.

 

[Reverse]

Update

I am feeling much better. when I crashed I was so cold. and my balls got so small. today I am running at very high temperatures already and my balls doubled.
Dont know if this will stick.

I am basically running close to electrolytes protocol. Will keep you updated.

Helen...you have balls???

I'm lost here, I thought Helen is a woman?

 

[Helen]

Helen...you have balls???

I'm lost here, I thought Helen is a woman?

Ovaries. dear, it is all about the ovaries

 

[tanedout]

The Trump and propecia thing is true, without a doubt. His personal physician reported that Trump is on it, and there are tons of articles from when that info came out.

Trump quitting fin and crashing would be the absolute best thing ever to happen to the PFS community. Merck execs would not even be able to sleep until a cure had been found, the drug would be pulled from the market immediately, users would get compensated. That guy does not fuck around. And you never know, it could happen.

@noprop Someone has been collecting 23andme data for some time, and analysing the data to look for trends, see here;

https://hackstasis.com/threads/research-on-me-cfs-pfs-pas-gwis-using-machine-learning.1028/

 

[noprop]

Why do you think vaccines and antibiotics are linked to your pfs? I had a lot of vaccines plus a course of antibiotics around 9 months before using finasteride very briefly then crashing and having very bad pfs. What are your symptoms?

What I can tell you is others on ph crashed also on AB. And some got better on pfs by taking some AB.

 

[supernature]

A guy on solve explained that to me knows it better than I. Re Trump and fin we all can just guess. But I dont pay to much attention to that.
Btw Ph people are collecting 23andme data in order to analyse. Could be interesting for us AS well to collect from lets say 30 people and analyse as the root is epigenetic for sure.

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[Dhair]

And permanent "side effects" (actually the true mechanism) that are "extremely rare", "do not persist", and "I've never heard of" (as per pharmacists and doctors).
Indeed, makes almost no sense at all to those unaffected till they see how fucked up your life has become, and the steps you've taken to fix it (personally speaking).

I remember some idiots saying I slur some words bc of all the "hard drugs" (literally alcohol, effexor, mj like 15 times) at that point. It was literally Effexor XR and whatever else they put me on back then. Then withdrawing from it and severe depression. Also hypomania, etc.

I still slur a bit, but 60% dead, I'm more articulate than all those assholes (when not too high or too low (mood, anxiety, etc -- or post-fin)). They don't realize how many of their peers in school and work are on serious drugs let alone prescription drugs (far worse). I could function fine on some obviously dangerous things, and not get out of bed or make sense at all on and after the RX ones. Being able to stay in the same tense and separate paragraphs may be partly medication caused, but it may have been happening anyways. Actually I couldn't get out of bed both after effexor and fin for some time. The first I got a lot better than started using alcohol etc again, then other things. So yeah, you're not good if your on drugs, but fine if you're on prescription ones... it's vexing. The same is true of societally acceptable drugs vs. the non social drugs. "Doctor knows best." Lol, I grew up around like 50 future docs.

I found that after not being on anything after quitting fin, I thought a family member was on something a lot of times... but they were usually not. They are ADHD and switch moods a bit here and there, but less than me. SO I can also see why others would think I'm on drugs (because my cognitive dysfunction is significantly worse than their's), esp if they see me "hyper" every single time they see me. BUT* what they don't know, is that not knowing all of this is a very lucky situation to be in. When I'm sober and tense, people want me to drink... so much hypocrisy. Eating all lean, want you to eat bread. And on and on.

People want you to be a certain way, but when you know you'll never be like them and only you and something drastically alters that 'you', that's devastating.
I hope all past tense for me.

TO put psyche and hormonal drugs in perspective: I literally quit inhalers sometimes bc of not remembering to refill them, not wanting to go to the doctor, lack of time... and that's for breathing. Jack shit occurs besides some wheezing. Quit effexor, seroquel, latuda, fin, duta, etc cold turkey --- and see what happens. You end up trying to solve an unsolvable chronic disease. You should see how many kids under 18 have permanent shaking and tremors and akasthisa, dyskinesias, etc from psyche drugs (for disorders that don't even exist in adolescence and are ALWAYS diagnosed incorrectly). It's a fucking joke. I like some psychiatrists, but the drugs and DSM are moronic.

Society and parents and schools and the common man do not know how to deal with people who are "different", so they label them, deride them, and drug them.
Not only that but they create a reality in which they need those drugs. Like some people I've seen who have tried like 60 different psyche drugs.

I'd rather be an educated, cost-benefit-analyzing drug-user than a zombie or a fat diabetic pill popping "common man", any fucking day.

When you talk about feeling more reasonable/articulate than the doctors, that really hit home with me.
One thing that I realized with PFS is that I'm probably much more sane than I feel, and definitely more sane than most of the people around me.
Over the past 2 years in my condition, I have suffered bouts of crippling depression and paralyzing anxiety, but I have watched so many people casually ruin their lives, commit violence, bully others, and do other inane and dangerous things that I wouldn't consider doing on my worst day, even though oftentimes I feel severely mentally and physically ill.
It just goes to show that society's perspective on health is totally screwed.

 

[noprop]

Dude you obviously paid attention i caught you a couple of times, you dont need to you say you dont. As you say some guy on "solve..." knows more than us, post it here what he knows, lets see.
I just noticed a conn (about the Fin, 5AR, Estrogens and gray hairs) you are making that i think havent been a topic of discussion so far around here, either not true or is been skipped so far, who knows.

Of course would be good to collect raw data from ppl that had a crash on Fin and try to catch what might be the underlying causes in terms of genes affected in the metabolism, look for common points. Obviously some in particular causes a crash: at some point, for some after longer intake, for some shorter. All this might be best if the people involved havent been on any programs which can drastically change body chemistry, so to see the neutral picture and draw conclusions from it.

It is not a competition about who knows more or not. And I said btw more than I.

 

[supernature]

It is not a competition about who knows more or not. And I said btw more than I.

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[Jaxx]

I think we should move further discussion of diets somewhere else. I just remembered this log belongs to the woman with balls and ovaries a.k.a Helen.

Thats ok, Helen can appreciate a bit of chaos

 

[Canari]

Helen...you have balls???

I'm lost here, I thought Helen is a woman?

Women have gballs...

Ovaries. dear, it is all about the ovaries

The female section has not inflated that much! It must be about the cold too!

 

[Potion]

Can a mod come in here and clean up Helen's thread? This thread is supposed to be Helen's crash and recover log. Unrelated posts should be in their own thread.
@IHateFin

 

[TubZy]

You can move to the thread I created ‘discussing modern medicine’ under general. I would but I don’t know how

Yeah I moved it to that thread, thanks @Aflac94 @Potion

I also cleaned up any posts that were related to that (apologies if your post got deleted here)

 

[MNK99]

@Helen, How you living Biggie Smalls?


New #158
Niles said:
The Trump and propecia thing is true, without a doubt. His personal physician reported that Trump is on it, and there are tons of articles from when that info came out.

Not to mention papers re: his divorce and arguing over his botched flap hair transplant in 80s-90s w an exwife - she recommended surgeon.


#The Truth Is Out There.

 

[Helen]

After I ran NADPH components, phosphorus, b1 b2, fats and meat and orange juice. and sulphoraphane loading.

It took about 2 weeks to get to 85%. I do have some energy problems here and here, but it is getting better, I am not taking anything at all now

Checked urine minerals, copper was very low in PFS, and zinc higher. Now both normal, so it seems it is balancing itself

I got myself anavar, and also dehydroboldenon.(DHB) not, sure if I will run those , since I am getting better on its own.

Will get tested next week for hormones, I try to always stay away from things that suppress the LH. I need my pituitary to work properly

 

[SwaZ]

After I ran NADPH components, phosphorus, b1 b2, fats and meat and orange juice. and sulphoraphane loading.

It took about 2 weeks to get to 85%. I do have some energy problems here and here, but it is getting better, I am not taking anything at all now

Checked urine minerals, copper was very low in PFS, and zinc higher. Now both normal, so it seems it is balancing itself

I got myself anavar, and also dehydroboldenon.(DHB) not, sure if I will run those , since I am getting better on its own.

Will get tested next week for hormones, I try to always stay away from things that suppress the LH. I need my pituitary to work properly

Great to hear that man, so just some energy problems and thats it. Fix that and you'll be around 100%?

What is orange juice's role in this?

 

[Helen]

Great to hear that man, so just some energy problems and thats it. Fix that and you'll be around 100%?

What is orange juice's role in this?

I loaded heavy potassium before just when I crashed. orange juice is for copper and potassium.

Energy is good, but sometimes in the mornings it feels like PH is not perfect yet. But energy is all good, sex drive libido, erections instant. Although during the crash they did not exist at all. I get better and better wihtout taking anything, since my goal was to destroy Androgen receptor. So the body had to upregulate 5AR since it lost the stilt of AR overexpression and now it is slowly restoring itself .

Also after this cycle I got much more body hair, actually crazy how much more hair is growing all over the place.