Help me. Post finasteride sindrome and all sintomns

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She I said milk I said almond milk which has more vitamin D and calcium and less carbs then the normal.
And dairy products. I like Greek iogurt and quark since it has a lot of protein and low carb/ fat.
I also adding more fruit and chocolate with more then 70% cacau on it. Those are the sweetest things I'm having right now.

greek yogurt with the fat is amazing and i also eat it with 72% dark chocolate oprganic. has a lot of potassium and copper! its a good combo. this is how i got my potassium during my var cycle. i think your diet is pretty good! you take any bcomplex vitamins?
 

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greek yogurt with the fat is amazing and i also eat it with 72% dark chocolate oprganic. has a lot of potassium and copper! its a good combo. this is how i got my potassium during my var cycle. i think your diet is pretty good! you take any bcomplex vitamins?
No b complex vitamins bro for now at leats. Only d3 zma( zinc magnesium and a little b6) and omega 3. Rest is diet.
The only candy I'm authorized to eat is chocolate dark with 70% cacau in it or more. But my digestion sucks... Takes hours and hours to digest a meal. Feel bloated all the time
 

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Guys here is my latest blood exams. Some results are a little bit different form July's results.
I understand that this is an holistic vision( I'm currently waiting for cut my hair for tei but its not long enough). I know blood tests don't show all but they can show something.
I'll introduce some information and then you can dig a little bit more opening the file.
My prolactin was 25 in the last exam now is 11. Dht has dropped massively. DHEA first time I've measured it its high.
Ferritin was way over the range last time and now seem to be in the range... Other values I'll need some help to interpretate ( if they are in middle, low or higher part of the range) thanks guys...
@Helen @RebelWithACause @IHateFin @ballheadbuddha
 

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@Pedro melo ... Interesting that your DHT is on the low end. Do you still have hair loss? DHEA is high, and I've noted that lots of guys with balding have high DHEA levels. Danny Roddy noted that in one of his weblogs. And Haidut suspects a DHEA metabolite called Hermaphradiol is the prime driver in hair loss.
 

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@Pedro melo ... Interesting that your DHT is on the low end. Do you still have hair loss? DHEA is high, and I've noted that lots of guys with balding have high DHEA levels. Danny Roddy noted that in one of his weblogs. And Haidut suspects a DHEA metabolite called Hermaphradiol is the prime driver in hair loss.
My dht was in the mid range when i was tooking fin. But now is in the low end... Strange indeed. My hairloss is outrageous full of dandruff more then 10 hair in the pillow.
Ray oeat forum they suggested me to talk with Danny Roddy( I saw some videos of him one year ago when I didn't even dream about having pfs) so yeah my guess is my high cortisol and high dhea although its first time I test dhea. Can you explain me what is this hormone for?
 

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DHEA is an Adrenal hormone. Usually high in balding males according to Danny Roddy. How long did you take fin. and did you get hair growth from fin.
 

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DHEA is an Adrenal hormone. Usually high in balding males according to Danny Roddy. How long did you take fin. and did you get hair growth from fin.
A lot of hair growth with fin... 9 months every day then stopped 3 months then 1 and a half year 3 times per week. Damn, so my hair is gone in months probably. And my health is not good with this pfs crap
 

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So Pedro, you still had sides even a three times a week? According to Dr. Lin, he recommends cleaning the liver very well, and then take some special herbs that help re-start the stem cells in the liver to make 5a reductase again.
 

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So Pedro, you still had sides even a three times a week? According to Dr. Lin, he recommends cleaning the liver very well, and then take some special herbs that help re-start the stem cells in the liver to make 5a reductase again.
No
Never had sides on fin. Only when i Stopped...im doing my second liber flush this week. Lets ser if it helps me.long termo. Question is: if my testo is high and my dht is in lower range why is estradiool B2 in the middle? Shouldn't be high?
Vitin d3 is in the lower end also. Could play a role I just don't understand where this hair fall and dandruff cones with a low dht...
 

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-In short: We have to ride out lots of uncertainty (everywhere, sometimes) to become the men we want to be. And just deal with it., bc who knows.

It's not like super high DHT >>> for sure bald at 25-30. My dad bald at like 26, his brother near full head of hair at age of death (IIRC, like 67 or so). My dad's dad also full head of hair (passed away young, maybe 41). All, but possibly me, dad, and brother - pretty strong facial hair. ALSO: dad's hormones MUST be worse NOW than in teens-20's - 30s, when he played sports back home, versus more sedentary lifestyle and work now... My DHT and stuff must be higher now with 168-175lb LBM versus like 139-145lb, didn't bald rapidly... I mean outside of some meds (adderall, lamotrigine). YEAH, my circumstances may be odd*, but I think those drugs screw hair up for lots, and it's doubly bad in conjunction with Androgenic Alopecia... but still, TONS of Randro, 4andro, workouts, PCT herbs... and like the same hair. Better than last year, because I was too sick... and barely got haircuts... looked all fucked up/ because of weakness, depression, and being destroyed by fin. Surely, shed A LOT of these days, but really only looked at it, around haircuts, and like: When I was in day 10-15 of water fasting a couple times, and also when I was on Randro the first week or so, but quickly ***I shifted my attn*** to the much more pressing concern of: IDeally getting out of that *PFS state*. Glad I did that. ... It's like amps... I freaked the fuck out... then eventually acted like a grownup, and was like... I need to finish degree bs rite now... And hair care will cost money (FUES), and If I fail school... well, I'll be sad and freak out WORSE...

--SO just like PFS or work or school, career, etc... THOSE concerns>>>> shedding or hair loss.

---I thought I'd be bald... adderall... literally better hair 4 years later (pre lamotrigine which was pretty harsh). WHY? who the fuck knows/ maybe looked more mature/ leaner....
I don't know. BUT*** if I stayed paralyzed in fear... I'd (personally) fuck up my life even worse.... SO fuck it man... NO way you'll just lose 10% hair per week or something. WE think this, but it's not true. You're young....

Look my ex gf's, cousins, sister in law... like tons of girls... everyone sheds. AND yes, us males it might be different... but shedding does not equal bald at a certain age.
BEST is ... mapping out prospective loss with some Hair Transplant surgeons... but that's a luxury, not the time to screw around setting up that kind of appointment just yet. I could, and don't because it's annoying./ and have other pressing concerns.

I had a little cousin on like 12 HARDCORE meds for a serious brain disease... he stopped shedding eventually. SO random shedding/ no drugs.... WELL you are at least* NOT ACCELERATING IT (like with steroids, or meds). That should be calming... may or may not be/ not sure.

Maybe try urine therapy later, if still concerned, but like I said... we have different priorities super sick, pretty sick, dying vs healthy one day, healthy ish, healthy, and very healthy.

MY gym owner, shorter ... bald like in 20's, has lambos and ferarris and is stupidly fit. ---> he doesn't give a fuck about hair (should have been friends a few years ago, probably steer me straight), but we gotta think about people like that. He became a multimillionaire at latest in early 30's... He was bald probably had fuck all for money in mid 20's, clearly he didn't let any of that get to him.
 
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Yo @Pedro melo

I looked at your test. Not sure what I can make of it. I cannot even make something of my own blood test. I see your progesterone is low, mine is high. I also had low DHT on last blood test. I am fast oxidiser.

Now you gotta make a plan of attack. Since you don't want to fast again. You can do the following:

- cdnuts protocol (herbs (minerals/hormones/electrolytes), hormones (R-Andro))
- TEI
- ARL
- Electrolyte protocol -> you need t ask Helen about this or the guys on the forum who are doing this

Choose 1 and stick to it for a few months. If you cannot get ARL/TEI in your country you can ask about the electrolyte protocol to members who know about it. Or you can do cdnuts protocol which has proven to also be effective for a lot of people.

Good luck!
 

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Yo @Pedro melo

I looked at your test. Not sure what I can make of it. I cannot even make something of my own blood test. I see your progesterone is low, mine is high. I also had low DHT on last blood test. I am fast oxidiser.

Now you gotta make a plan of attack. Since you don't want to fast again. You can do the following:

- cdnuts protocol (herbs (minerals/hormones/electrolytes), hormones (R-Andro))
- TEI
- ARL
- Electrolyte protocol -> you need t ask Helen about this or the guys on the forum who are doing this

Choose 1 and stick to it for a few months. If you cannot get ARL/TEI in your country you can ask about the electrolyte protocol to members who know about it. Or you can do cdnuts protocol which has proven to also be effective for a lot of people.

Good luck!
Yeah ill do tei. Already havê the package jsut need to wait for hair grow. Hair shedding is incredibility high and full of dandruff and oily. NY dht is low so I don't understand why this. Maybe high cortisol and high dhea.
Now I need to focus on my sleep. I can have sleep but I wake up like a zombie 0 energy through outs the day... Also my gut is a mess... Hope tei can help me with this
 

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He definitely had side effects, was in a worse state a while ago. Correct?
 

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he said he only had sides when he quit. which raised the question, why quit if it was working and no sides.
OK lwt me get this straight for you guys.
Started fin in January 2016 until September amazing growing. Quit for three months and CE back in January 2017. Only 3* week. When I've got until June 2018 I did hormonal exams for first time and got scared with estradiol values... Maximum was 150 I was almost 200. Then all crushed. In this second round of fin it was not working as the first time... Dandruff and falling more. My mistake was to look at the stradiol value and get scared and stop cold Turkey. Now I'm doomed to leave like this
 

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@Pedro melo , thanks for your replies. Just wondering why quit fin if no sides and hair was growing? Also, what was your estradiol. my is 42 ng.
My last estardiol levels ( 17 Beta estradiol) was 35 ng/L in a scale between 15.5 and 63.3
Just wondering if my body got used to leave with a high stardiol levels...
How can I contact mister dany Roddy? They talked about him also in rae peat forum.
 

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My last estardiol levels ( 17 Beta estradiol) was 35 ng/L in a scale between 15.5 and 63.3
Just wondering if my body got used to leave with a high stardiol levels...
How can I contact mister dany Roddy? They talked about him also in rae peat forum.


Go on TEI. what Danny Roddy is going to tell you. LOL

you need to concetrate on fixing PFS. TEI will fix your hair. it won't be falling out
 

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Go on TEI. what Danny Roddy is going to tell you. LOL

you need to concetrate on fixing PFS. TEI will fix your hair. it won't be falling out
Yeah ongoing on tei it's just I was curious because I saw some videos of him before... Way before I had pfs and I've found interesting and since it could be one more opinion... But you're right.
I was talking with rebel with a cause and the price of tei got me a little bit down but... Has to be done
 

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He's like your age bro, don't call him mister, he's barely borderline a mister.