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vicecaz

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Interesting, usually it's Post accutane people like myself that suffer from Dry eyes, not so much PFS people. Makes you wonder how those condition from 2 different drugs can have such similarities sometimes, though they both share similar mechanisms.

@Orion apparently attributes its recent benefits to huge B2 doses. We know that vitamins level in blood isn't always a good indicator.
I had to stop wearing contact after accutane too, and I have these really weird symptoms of colour lightning issue when I fix a spotlight.

For example, If I close my left eye and read my phone with only my right eye, for say 3 minutes, and reopen the left eye, I'll realize I don't see with the same nuances of light: the left eye will see the room just fine, as usual, while the right eye will see everything in a dark lighting. and it passes after a few minutes when my eye readjust. That's vitamin A overdose for you
This Appeared during accutane and never left

Well I don't know if that means I'm still loaded with retinoic acid somewhere in my body, or if it affected a gene or if it's more immune related. It could be a vitamin A deficiency as well.
I'll update my log and write down my plan for the following weeks, probably what Orion is doing with a bit of twist, with always cd's protocol as a staple

I have seen improvements in the dryness when cutting carbs like you as well, meaning the immune system play its part to an extent
 
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Pedro melo

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Interesting, usually it's Post accutane people like myself that suffer from Dry eyes, not so much PFS people. Makes you wonder how those condition from 2 different drugs can have such similarities sometimes, though they both share similar mechanisms.

@Orion apparently attributes its recent benefits to huge B2 doses. We know that vitamins level in blood isn't always a good indicator.
I had to stop wearing contact after accutane too, and I have these really weird symptoms of colour lightning issue when I fix a spotlight.

For example, If I close my left eye and read my phone with only my right eye, for say 3 minutes, and reopen the left eye, I'll realize I don't see with the same nuances of light: the left eye will see the room just fine, as usual, while the right eye will see everything in a dark lighting. and it passes after a few minutes when my eye readjust. That's vitamin A overdose for you
This Appeared during accutane and never left

Well I don't know if that means I'm still loaded with retinoic acid somewhere in my body, or if it affected a gene or if it's more immune related. I'll update my log and write down my plan for the following weeks, probably what Orion is doing with a bit of twist, with always cd's protocol as a staple

I have seen improvements in the dryness when cutting carbs like you as well, meaning the immune system play its part to an extent
PAS and PFS sure havê mechanisms that if they are not equal, the result is very similar... I don't have that issue with the colour( I guess lol otherwise its another symptom on this infinite list) but I do see worst with by left eye to the point of starting to use glasses.
If not in blood, how can I measure the amount of vitamin in my organism?
Other thing I didn't mention is my digestion... With keto diet, was more difficult to me to go to the bathrrom more often, and my stools were fool of little undigested food. I don't know... I'm afraid about the milk and milk products although I like those very much. I need to increase also cooper wich is weird because I've used chronometer to measure my macros and micros in a normal day and my copper was in a good range in a normal day eating... Hope this tei thing can put me in a better place coz right now all I can ear is my belly screaming all the time... Either if I have food or not.
By the way can I continue to do liver flush while on tei? I'll also do my first coffee enema today ( I've tried only water enema so far)
 

Orion

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Interesting, usually it's Post accutane people like myself that suffer from Dry eyes, not so much PFS people. Makes you wonder how those condition from 2 different drugs can have such similarities sometimes, though they both share similar mechanisms.

@Orion apparently attributes its recent benefits to huge B2 doses. We know that vitamins level in blood isn't always a good indicator.
I had to stop wearing contact after accutane too, and I have these really weird symptoms of colour lightning issue when I fix a spotlight.

For example, If I close my left eye and read my phone with only my right eye, for say 3 minutes, and reopen the left eye, I'll realize I don't see with the same nuances of light: the left eye will see the room just fine, as usual, while the right eye will see everything in a dark lighting. and it passes after a few minutes when my eye readjust. That's vitamin A overdose for you
This Appeared during accutane and never left

Well I don't know if that means I'm still loaded with retinoic acid somewhere in my body, or if it affected a gene or if it's more immune related. It could be a vitamin A deficiency as well.
I'll update my log and write down my plan for the following weeks, probably what Orion is doing with a bit of twist, with always cd's protocol as a staple

I have seen improvements in the dryness when cutting carbs like you as well, meaning the immune system play its part to an extent

B1 and B2 seem to be helpful post accutane, B1 if your have dry skin, B2 if you have oily skin. Taken in mega doses, with some Bcomplex to balance.

B1 up to 1600mg/day B2 up to 1000mg/day

By far the biggest improvments have come from completely avoiding vitamin A for the last 2 months, depleting vitamin A from liver and tissues post accutane should be priority number 1. Fasting, liver flushes, and avoiding any foods with vitamin A, anecdotal reports suggest 2 to 6 months to get this done.
 

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For example, If I close my left eye and read my phone with only my right eye, for say 3 minutes, and reopen the left eye, I'll realize I don't see with the same nuances of light: the left eye will see the room just fine, as usual, while the right eye will see everything in a dark lighting. and it passes after a few minutes when my eye readjust. That's vitamin A overdose for you
This Appeared during accutane and never left

My eyesite is beginning to improve after 2months zero vitamin A intake. Specifically my left eye which had degrading near sight issues, its slowly coming back to right eye levels. Hoping for more improvement in the next two months.
 

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Interesting, usually it's Post accutane people like myself that suffer from Dry eyes, not so much PFS people. Makes you wonder how those condition from 2 different drugs can have such similarities sometimes, though they both share similar mechanisms.

@Orion apparently attributes its recent benefits to huge B2 doses. We know that vitamins level in blood isn't always a good indicator.
I had to stop wearing contact after accutane too, and I have these really weird symptoms of colour lightning issue when I fix a spotlight.

For example, If I close my left eye and read my phone with only my right eye, for say 3 minutes, and reopen the left eye, I'll realize I don't see with the same nuances of light: the left eye will see the room just fine, as usual, while the right eye will see everything in a dark lighting. and it passes after a few minutes when my eye readjust. That's vitamin A overdose for you
This Appeared during accutane and never left

Well I don't know if that means I'm still loaded with retinoic acid somewhere in my body, or if it affected a gene or if it's more immune related. It could be a vitamin A deficiency as well.
I'll update my log and write down my plan for the following weeks, probably what Orion is doing with a bit of twist, with always cd's protocol as a staple

I have seen improvements in the dryness when cutting carbs like you as well, meaning the immune system play its part to an extent
What you described with closing one eye and opening it, is the natural human process fo night vision. Perfectly normal!
 

tanedout

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What you described with closing one eye and opening it, is the natural human process fo night vision. Perfectly normal!

Not sure, accutane definitely screws with night vision. My night vision is absolutely zero with PAS. Unless there is some light source I just see total blackness at night
 

vicecaz

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I probably expressed myself poorly but this is definitely different than the natural human process. It appeared during acc and never left, the eye shouldnt see everything in black after fixing lights for a few minutes, compared to the other, and taking this long to readjust
 

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rod damage maybe?
dark light adaptation worsened. night blindness, same with some SARMS and FIN for some people.
Ideally not permanent. HAD lots maybe 5-6 vision symptoms, not so many now. Maybe 1-2 or a changed prescription. Could not safely walk anywhere, cross the street.
After my surgery last yr, couldn't see like 6ft in front of me, and like the pain meds made it worse, also double, lagging vision.
Horizontal shifting vision like transformations in geometry on effexor. That's gone. Accutane not sure myb.... long time ago. Probably dry eyes at least. For me.
I have reflexes like a cat on cocaine. (Like a tiger, jaguar, etc A manly cat, not a gay cat). I was basically immobile for vision alone pre fasting at times.
 
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vicecaz

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B1 and B2 seem to be helpful post accutane, B1 if your have dry skin, B2 if you have oily skin. Taken in mega doses, with some Bcomplex to balance.

B1 up to 1600mg/day B2 up to 1000mg/day

By far the biggest improvments have come from completely avoiding vitamin A for the last 2 months, depleting vitamin A from liver and tissues post accutane should be priority number 1. Fasting, liver flushes, and avoiding any foods with vitamin A, anecdotal reports suggest 2 to 6 months to get this done.
Thank you for the recommandations . B1 in my case then
I'll definitely try to avoid vit A for a few time and see. I'll implement liver flush too
 

Pedro melo

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Thank you for the recommandations . B1 in my case then
I'll definitely try to avoid vit A for a few time and see. I'll implement liver flush too
Livre flush is important. I just don't know if I can do it along with tei but I wanted to, in order to restore some bile coz my digestion and stools are very bad right noe although I don't have constipation... Last time no stones came out... I've also introduced coffee enema, those are a softly method comparing with liver flush and helped me to pull some.stools I was unable to expels.
Does anyone here do liver flush while on tei? I'm asking coz in the day of the flush you're supposed to fast and don't take anything and its a "lost day" to intake the supps
 

Pedro melo

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Still one week to go the first cicle to complete the two months. After that should I stop for how long to retest and feel the snapback?
I'm feeling worst then when I crashed, gyno is worst libido is -10000, digestion is a crapier coz I need to increase milk and calcium intake. No exercise.
Suicidal thoughts very present. Headache outrageous. The brain fog is so Scarry that in the other day I literally went to the street to go to supermarket and I forgot what I was doig on the street, and when I fot to the supermarket I forgot what to buy!!!
My faith and believe in this are not present. I've been liver flushing once a month and doing water and coffee enemas... They're not helping me at all so far.
I wanted to do some blood exams after thus circle... See if anything changed. What can I test?
Sorry for my Portuguese expression... "Puta de Vida!!"
 

Goose12

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Still one week to go the first cicle to complete the two months. After that should I stop for how long to retest and feel the snapback?
I'm feeling worst then when I crashed, gyno is worst libido is -10000, digestion is a crapier coz I need to increase milk and calcium intake. No exercise.
Suicidal thoughts very present. Headache outrageous. The brain fog is so Scarry that in the other day I literally went to the street to go to supermarket and I forgot what I was doig on the street, and when I fot to the supermarket I forgot what to buy!!!
My faith and believe in this are not present. I've been liver flushing once a month and doing water and coffee enemas... They're not helping me at all so far.
I wanted to do some blood exams after thus circle... See if anything changed. What can I test?
Sorry for my Portuguese expression... "Puta de Vida!!"
You should not be doing anything else. No liver flushes or enamas. Only tei. They will mess with your hair test
 

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You should not be doing anything else. No liver flushes or enamas. Only tei. They will mess with your hair test
My friend, can you update your actual situation?
Still improving by TEI or been Always the same with improvements you had?
 

Goose12

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My friend, can you update your actual situation?
Still improving by TEI or been Always the same with improvements you had?
I updated my log last week. I am still improving, it just takes time.
I feel like I have been waiting forever for my tei results. Should be any day now.
 

Pedro melo

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I updated my log last week. I am still improving, it just takes time.
I feel like I have been waiting forever for my tei results. Should be any day now.
Thanks for the answer brother. Did you felt this bad on your first circle as well?
I have this strange symptom where the more I sleep the worst , confused and headache i feel...
Think I should stop enemas and flushes correct?
What about blood exams( considering I've been a lot but I don't do it in more than 3 months, they are here all over the tread but I can post again if youand the guys want to remember)?
 

Orion

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Thanks for the answer brother. Did you felt this bad on your first circle as well?
I have this strange symptom where the more I sleep the worst , confused and headache i feel...
Think I should stop enemas and flushes correct?
What about blood exams( considering I've been a lot but I don't do it in more than 3 months, they are here all over the tread but I can post again if youand the guys want to remember)?

Re-test as soon as you can, the first TEI round will help to figure out what is really going wrong for address in the second round, keep with it.
 

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You should not be doing anything else. No liver flushes or enamas. Only tei. They will mess with your hair test

I think that's not entirely true if you do them just sparingly. I do about 2 coffee enema's and a liver flush each month, which is fine and doesn't mess with the hair test. You just have to know your body. Doing more makes me dehydrated, which, if I would do them more often, would influence hair tests.

I think it's a very safe and useful addition to NB.
 

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I think that's not entirely true if you do them just sparingly. I do about 2 coffee enema's and a liver flush each month, which is fine and doesn't mess with the hair test. You just have to know your body. Doing more makes me dehydrated, which, if I would do them more often, would influence hair tests.

I think it's a very safe and useful addition to NB.

I think if anything, liver flushes and enemas should even help. As they seem to detox the body.
 

Pedro melo

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Re-test as soon as you can, the first TEI round will help to figure out what is really going wrong for address in the second round, keep with it.
OK... I will ask for the kit and cut the hair. I will Also check some hornones and stuuf by blood sample i guess