How many PFS guys of you are still picking up girls?

hopeforrecovery

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I just wanted to know how many of people here with PFS(or maybe PSSD) are still flirting, dating and picking up girls.
Before PFS I've always had a lot of girls who were interested in me and had a lot of sex.

Now it's like the opposite, no girl seems to be interested when I'm trying to flirt. It's like a curse lol. At like every party I could bring a girl home but now that's impossible.

I just wanted to know if there are people here who still make good experiences with girls.
 

Ocguy

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I get rejected a lot less, because I flirt a little (human nature) and then back off completely because I know I won't perform nearly as well.. now I have a multitude of girls I could easily get but won't pursue for obvious reasons.. pre pfs I used to come on a lot stronger and scare a lot away.. I've also developed this dry type humor, clever wit at times but generally non emotional because I just don't feel much, that seems to be a turn on too.


If I ever come out of this I will follow the same strategy, a little bit of flirting followed by aloofness, it drives them crazy. All in all my game has improved significantly due to this affliction the irony of course is I can't do anything with it
 
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K8668B

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Ive been the whole time. Even in the worser days too. Had alot of experiences. I basically lived a good chunk of my life with PFS and not even fully aware of it.


Now more than ever, im attracting women left and right, because im getting healthier, and looking better from the gym, tan, good haircuts/goatee trim, and the way i present myself. Its all controlled by YOU. And if its a higher energy/testosterone day.. i do even better. Ill talk better, be more interactive, etc.

Ill attract the girls, even get their numbers sometimes, but its like im afraid to have sex with them these days, because of the really shitty experiences ive had in the past. My fitness is there, and on some days, my 5ar seems really good, but the sexual is still eh. So thats how it is with me lately . Im working on things though!
 

K8668B

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I get rejected a lot less, because I flirt a little (human nature) and then back off completely because I know I won't perform nearly as well.. now I have a multitude of girls I could easily get but won't pursue for obvious reasons.. pre pfs I used to come on a lot stronger and scare a lot away.. I've also developed this dry type humor, clever wit at times but generally non emotional because I just don't feel much, that seems to be a turn on too.


If I ever come out of this I will follow the same strategy, a little bit of flirting followed by aloofness, it drives them crazy. All in all my game has improved significantly due to this affliction the irony of course is I can't do anything with it

I so can relate to this man!!!! 100% !! Thats exactly how it is!
 

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I'm a pick up an m16, fuck my enemy's hoe, impregnate his sister, and be out the door. It's all fair in love and war, wake up smoking ashes, that's the action, of an economic assassin, I only bang girls that is illiterate, fired from dishwashing cuz I killed the plates, yeah I dislike most I meet, but fuck on the first date, the only thing pushing me forward is hate, cone on now, MNK's gotta eat.

Slayo if you give up, I'm gonna start extorting people , so don't do it bro.
 
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-I dislike talking about actual things (I like being vague and not explicitly explaining details...)
-ANyways, I have hooked up a few times since pfs. OK, sometimes good. NOT NEARLY as good as say 19 or 24 months ago (before taking fin).
-WAY better than when I did hookup on fin (which only happened a few times, and also I did not realize why I was mentally "not there", and also physically). -twice while travelling -- AND basically I wasn't there in terms of understanding what is going on, and was in pain after. HAPPY that I got her, but it was STRANGE. Also, my first gf was after effexor/ barely felt anything initially and she was like 27 I was like 20, and I still didn't know what I was doing, but it got better. Late bloomer, I was a "nerd", lost my mind a bit later or before, probably before.
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A couple months later, I quit... then I had way worse problems than trying to attract women (suicidal, couldn't see properly, eat... recognize my street, buy food, bedridden, etc).

-I will be better after fixing some more issues, but rite now focusing on the future.
-AND (outside of pfs), I can't really trust nearly anyone, but get to know others quickly, but perhaps cannot have long term relnships just yet. MAYBE, but it takes A LOT of work, and trust is kind of needed. --Most girls in Toronto are extraordinarily fake.
-I wrote a long thing, got rid of it, meant to pm OP, but message gone. Then I wrote my semi-trolling post, bc the other one was too real, anyways transmission over.
-After medical instances, and crazy life events that were barely survived IT's easy to size up others; but also I'm easily able to write others off and distrust them.
-LITERALLY would run away from girls that liked me, in early to mid 20s a bit, because it was just too hard to trust or like or "love" and KNOW it would get fucked up somehow.
-HAD social skills -- but was very awkward and shy... ALso kind of hate people.
-MOSTLY do not give a fuck now, may be more shy as I get more urge to talk to someone specifically. BUT the thing is travel, get laid... Stay in Toronto... basically meet only flakes.... SO... kind of no point. Smaller cities, probably better. OR girls that are traveling to my city. Long term in big cities? better be done fixing that career bs, and have a sick place, or lie a lot.
-I'm too real to lie, but I tell half the story, the rest they can fill it in.
-Attraction is instantaneous and uncontrollable, and women hate fear/anxiety.
-AND: basically, being an asshole and intimidating does attract women too, but when you're stuck like that (bc you're stressed, not bc you're an asshole), you kind of don't have time or ability to turn it off. I move so fast, people literally dodge out of my way. All my male friends hate Toronto, even multimillionaires, and tall good looking white guys (i.e. dating should BE EASY) for them.
-MY brother likes it.... BUT, he parties a lot.
-I go to clubs and want to beat the shit out of someone.
-JUST a game of numbers, outside of marriage (also a game of numbers for too many ppl).
-There is still love out there, but business/money first. And mental/physical health. For me at least, not advising everyone to be like this.
-ALSO ON DEXEDRINE: literally roll my eyes at people trying to be friends or people that want to talk, even girls. OR I am so focused I see right past people, hyperfocused.
-BETTER than failing or getting fired all the time and literally lost. BUT, need to CHILL sometimes/ like wknds or after certain goals. CANNOT work 247 (not really productive anyways), but sometimes I need to, to catch up for all the other bs and wasted time.
-Better than at 23 or 24 , hypomania, falling in love with some engaged girl, and destroying my exams, and missing school like an idiot. More mature now.
-Better than 18, 19... etc, too shy and too funny (can't be too funny with hoes, they need to know you are out for sex, but not desperately, but that you get it... and have options).
-The whole game is so annoying, almost better to be asexual.
-OR at least accept living/working/studying/earning in 1 city, and dating/having fun in another (totally fine, but this was too complicated for me at 20).

-I tried to explain something like this, but everything I write and say comes out as something COMPLETELY different. I think too many things all at once sometimes, and try and be short/ then say something else. This isn't PFS.
-Running out add meds, gotta study bs tests. It's boring and annoying, and I want a ps4 k, and a home gym, and a new apartment, but I need to sit the fuck down and study.

-I learned from my player friends, read a lot of books, learn from douchebags too.
-BUT I'll always be me, can't fully emulate anyone. AND when they actually get into trouble, it's nothing to me, and they ask me for help. Everyone's different.
-I stress about packing and flying, bc I lose things, death threats or someone screaming at me -- I don't give a fuck.
-EASY things are often really hard for me, and HARD things are really easy. I can talk about anything, but probably 100s of times; I met a girl, and was so distracted forgot to get the number at the end. OR I see them in my building, could easily have hung out, but had exams or petitions, then later; I barely recognize/remember/care anymore. BUT sometimes I do, and it sucks.
-Better to not give a fuck period, about anyone. And just have sex and a fling once every couple weeks, or meet someone REAL, that actually is interesting and smart, and not super shallow. Some shallowness fine, but not only shallow. And keep long term relationships at some other point in time....
-I hate groups of people, often they try shyt, but all run off.
-I think I prefer fighting to friendship.
-YOUNGER, I just wanted friends and love. But people violate too much, so fuck it.
-I'll get long term relationships later, I could settle for some low quality girl or mid-hi, could do it sooner than later. -- Yeah I'd rather die.
-She's gotta be crazy like me, but not insane. OR very stable (that will not workout most likely).
-AFAIK, you need to have sex near first date, to make a long term relationships in big cities... or maybe everyone I know and see is a sociopath. Not sure.
-I see little cousins that have good (loving) relationships... I don't know.
 
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brix

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Never had a problem picking up girls. Most of them are interested in me but I stayed away because I didn’t trust my dick to work. Haha.

Have a gf now who would never have known I had any ed issues. So that’s a good sign.
 

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Second chance... What if it's 75th chance? Still true, if work ass off rite?
I believe so (up to a point).

Actually I know so, BC I've lost out on that many chances just with girls (way before PFS, lots during pssd, after, and before - but younger /shy then) , or school alone, money, etc... Still Im here tho. Not that it's all fun and games (really isn't). But whatever. Stoic and ambitious, till the end. Whatever happens, I'll see it through. I won't be satisfied until I can buy and sell those pharma mofos. Already can, but need more until it's over.
 

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Never had a problem picking up girls. Most of them are interested in me but I stayed away because I didn’t trust my dick to work. Haha.

Have a gf now who would never have known I had any ed issues. So that’s a good sign.

You’ve come a long way man. Never heard your story completely, any links?

The chicks thing is weird for me. It’s all about fatigue and herxheimer reactions, chelating, body chemistry. I beat myself up a lot with that stuff and for instance ARL I was so bad I couldn’t get up and premature ejaculated from a 10 second blow job.

I couldn’t imagine what experimenting with a girl would’ve been like at my worst. March 2017 till July 2017 there was zero way I could’ve functioned. It would’ve hurt. My dick would hurt thinking of a woman on me. There was no movement ever except for nocturnals here and there.

But when I’m steady and feeling well enough which is majority of the time these days, even without much libido, my arousal ability just knows when it needs to take off. Just making out with a girl, I find ways of turning myself on with them.

It’s fun, you go for things in girls you didn’t before in past. Like the lips, the neck, I go for things that turn me on and it definitely takes some effort on my part. But normally I’m excited and aroused as anything by the time for sex. Sex still doesn’t feel completely right and sometimes PE can be an issue.
 

brix

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You’ve come a long way man. Never heard your story completely, any links?

The chicks thing is weird for me. It’s all about fatigue and herxheimer reactions, chelating, body chemistry. I beat myself up a lot with that stuff and for instance ARL I was so bad I couldn’t get up and premature ejaculated from a 10 second blow job.

I couldn’t imagine what experimenting with a girl would’ve been like at my worst. March 2017 till July 2017 there was zero way I could’ve functioned. It would’ve hurt. My dick would hurt thinking of a woman on me. There was no movement ever except for nocturnals here and there.

But when I’m steady and feeling well enough which is majority of the time these days, even without much libido, my arousal ability just knows when it needs to take off. Just making out with a girl, I find ways of turning myself on with them.

It’s fun, you go for things in girls you didn’t before in past. Like the lips, the neck, I go for things that turn me on and it definitely takes some effort on my part. But normally I’m excited and aroused as anything by the time for sex. Sex still doesn’t feel completely right and sometimes PE can be an issue.

I have a log. Initially I experimented with haiduts supplements. Gonadin and pansterone helped but they didn’t stick at all. Then I got some liquid coal is and that definitely did the trick for the meantime. Once I got comfortable with my girlfriend and got a hair test, I stopped using it. I think once taking copper and it’s cofactors helped a lot.

I do have some PE issues as well. It’s very strange though because when I’m just starting to see someone new, I last forever. But the second I’m comfortable, PE gets worse. I’ve tried everything from lisuride, cyproheptadine, 11K DHT, and other things but nothing works. I’ve read it’s due to serotonin, but I’m not sure. My tryptophan intake is very high according to Cronometer. It is the highest of all of the aminos. Maybe BCAAs would help but that seems like a band aid. Alcohol probably helps the most.

Overall, I would say I’m like 70 percent recovered in the libido and ED areas. I would love to get back to pre PFS levels but it’s hard to tell as I’ve also aged a bit since taking fin.
 

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I have a log. Initially I experimented with haiduts supplements. Gonadin and pansterone helped but they didn’t stick at all. Then I got some liquid coal is and that definitely did the trick for the meantime. Once I got comfortable with my girlfriend and got a hair test, I stopped using it. I think once taking copper and it’s cofactors helped a lot.

I do have some PE issues as well. It’s very strange though because when I’m just starting to see someone new, I last forever. But the second I’m comfortable, PE gets worse. I’ve tried everything from lisuride, cyproheptadine, 11K DHT, and other things but nothing works. I’ve read it’s due to serotonin, but I’m not sure. My tryptophan intake is very high according to Cronometer. It is the highest of all of the aminos. Maybe BCAAs would help but that seems like a band aid. Alcohol probably helps the most.

Overall, I would say I’m like 70 percent recovered in the libido and ED areas. I would love to get back to pre PFS levels but it’s hard to tell as I’ve also aged a bit since taking fin.

Hey man
70 percent is good!! Good job.

after reading your post i went looking for the 11 keto dht.. I don't see it listed on haidut's site, it's not on either product list.

do you know if he discontinued? They're still talking about it as of recently on rpf, so it's odd I don't see it.

If u can point me to a link or give any feedback would be greatly appreciated
 

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Hey man
70 percent is good!! Good job.

after reading your post i went looking for the 11 keto dht.. I don't see it listed on haidut's site, it's not on either product list.

do you know if he discontinued? They're still talking about it as of recently on rpf, so it's odd I don't see it.

If u can point me to a link or give any feedback would be greatly appreciated

He still sells it I think just not openly.