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I have been doing mainly beet juice based juices with greens and oranges. I notice if I stick with it, it seams to boost labido but I wonder if it's a coincidence. Also want to start doing more watermelon juices. Watermelon is loaded with pottasium, glutothion, lycopene ( more than tomatoes), and is high in l citrulline. But they not in season around here.
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Never tried watermelon yet. Broccoli juice is very good for gluta as well, actually one of the best since the sulph in the broccoli binds to glut and activates it in the body.
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Please make a cooking channel on youtube. You can make bone broths and do juicing like you do here and throw in some health facts like this one. Id watch that shit like crazy
Word of cautions with those that doesn't have a thyroid functioning optimally with the juice of raw veggies such as broccoli, cauliflower, kale etc. goitrogens could be problematic, the cooking process usually diminish the harmful effect. It impairs the absorption of iodine
Supplementing Iodine would be wise if you juice everyday
Supplementing Iodine would be wise if you juice everyday
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Yes that is also an option as well
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Juices definitely boost my libido. It’s not a placebo man lol. I just did a gross spinach, radish, carrot juice. Not a treat. But I start herxing with TEI type feeling to it, tinnitus and immediate strong boost in libido.
It’s all the system. System gets stronger, disease is dying causing tinnitus, fatigue- and something in this is improving pfs which leads to more libido.
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Great call with the iodine there thanks man.
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You don't get more 5AR right? You just more sensitive to it. So you need less of 5AR to feel same/more effect.
I understand that the electrolyte thread wasnt perfect, but neither is TEI. I mean it is great that several people feel more energy and all, but there are zero cures from TEI (yet).I am not saying it is not a potential route, but it is an expensive one that is not proven for PFS or PSSD, at least for people on the forum as far as i can see. Not sure why everyone should hop on before a couple of cured cases.
iHateFin and Joekool seem to have more progress with their experiments, but it gets limited follow-up somehow. I understand you want to take responsibility to make sure people dont get worse, but experimenting is what this forum is about imho.
Just my two cents, not attacking anyone as i see the good intentions.
iHateFin and Joekool seem to have more progress with their experiments, but it gets limited follow-up somehow. I understand you want to take responsibility to make sure people dont get worse, but experimenting is what this forum is about imho.
Just my two cents, not attacking anyone as i see the good intentions.
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I had amazing progress pre - TEI. AND I can understand being skeptical of TEI. AND likely it would be harder. And realistically I am impatient, but ... soon I'll be out on own again, and it's just something I take, takes 30seconds or less 2 x a day. I ranked several issues, and placed PFS as lower priority than some for a reason. As in that's no longer my life priority. Not cured, but saw friends and they saw me before sick (3k km from current location) and they were like Wow, you're doing well. BUT* explaining stuff to family is very difficult, and I finally did tell them (again and again) that I'll go back, and was worried about maybe getting into a school here, with a lease there then moving again, but they said that's fine whatever. Anyways, that's obviously bc of previous work to help and ideally resolve PFS. But, I think the best things are in order: Fasting, Electrolytes, Randro-4andro / maybe TEI. And I did a lot more than that. For other issues, choline and phosphatidylserine -- but not for everyone. There has to be MANY ways out of this.
-- And really, they're all experimental. Got rid of PSSD, in similar (but far less planned way, also didn't realize half the time... just thought I was asexual / trust issues etc.
--DO I think TEI can help my other issues and does it ? Yes. Help PFS, yes... and eventually more ? I think so. It has, but I'm holding on updates to my log (real updates) for a reason.
-Do I think it would cure ADHD/mood disorder ? No I don't think I'll become 1000% a different person, but I can be better.
-I do still think of Anavar, but mostly only around doubts that are brought up, and being realistic with career/ future timeframe in mind.
-***ACTUALLY: TEI > RANDRO/4andro, because they're drugs. BUT more realistically: BC they didn't help everyone***. Also, yeah I'm way stronger - but I was super pissed off a long time on my 73days of use and like 100d post cycle or maybe 140-150d total with Randro 4andro or kingsblood and TMO herbs.
-Look I wish, there's an easy cure for not only PSSD and PFS but for a lot of things. But people ask me now about money and career stuff... not saying things like: "you're fucked up. What happened to you... " They kind of always asked this bc no one really could tell I was sick bc... I literally saw no one for months; until I was like ya i need help.
--BUT yeah, I'm saying... at the time everything looked pretty crazy/ doubtful a bit but I stuck thru it. So if that's the case, why not stick thru TEI.
-NO longer asking am I ok or me explaining shyt outside of maybe 2-3 ppl or some i ignored a long time.
--Also I'm super skeptical. It took 4-5yrs to change asthma inhalers, and literally prefer seeing my 1-2 trusted medical professionals 3000km away than finding someone here. So I'm super non-trusting, and YET, on TEI. Bc, I said I would be.
--ALSO, did a lot of research and called several offices there. And looked into the ingredients pre-purchase a bit.
-It's like 1millionx better than buying Sam-e, Lithium orotate, random herbs or whatever the hell I did last year and didn't even use, also MMJ. ---that was desperation.
-NOW a lot of those things would help but not in -10000% health.
-I'm super thankful to @Helen and a lot of others here (IHF, tubz, aztec, joe etc). Yes, nicer if this shyt didn't happen but I'm not capable of going back in time... yet.
-Most of IHF's and Tubz and Helen's advice that I took (didn't take all but near all for several of them -- not every protocol obviously, Im just one guy) helped.
-If it didn't help me - I dropped it, like Collagen. --also look at @Goose12 -- a very rationale and mature adult who stuck out TEI a long time w/ gains to show for it.
-Lastly:
--We definitely don't need more suicides/ severe depression. Trust me, been there. It's fucking awful and wish it on no one. Had some in friends also (other reasons).
-- And really, they're all experimental. Got rid of PSSD, in similar (but far less planned way, also didn't realize half the time... just thought I was asexual / trust issues etc.
--DO I think TEI can help my other issues and does it ? Yes. Help PFS, yes... and eventually more ? I think so. It has, but I'm holding on updates to my log (real updates) for a reason.
-Do I think it would cure ADHD/mood disorder ? No I don't think I'll become 1000% a different person, but I can be better.
-I do still think of Anavar, but mostly only around doubts that are brought up, and being realistic with career/ future timeframe in mind.
-***ACTUALLY: TEI > RANDRO/4andro, because they're drugs. BUT more realistically: BC they didn't help everyone***. Also, yeah I'm way stronger - but I was super pissed off a long time on my 73days of use and like 100d post cycle or maybe 140-150d total with Randro 4andro or kingsblood and TMO herbs.
-Look I wish, there's an easy cure for not only PSSD and PFS but for a lot of things. But people ask me now about money and career stuff... not saying things like: "you're fucked up. What happened to you... " They kind of always asked this bc no one really could tell I was sick bc... I literally saw no one for months; until I was like ya i need help.
--BUT yeah, I'm saying... at the time everything looked pretty crazy/ doubtful a bit but I stuck thru it. So if that's the case, why not stick thru TEI.
-NO longer asking am I ok or me explaining shyt outside of maybe 2-3 ppl or some i ignored a long time.
--Also I'm super skeptical. It took 4-5yrs to change asthma inhalers, and literally prefer seeing my 1-2 trusted medical professionals 3000km away than finding someone here. So I'm super non-trusting, and YET, on TEI. Bc, I said I would be.
--ALSO, did a lot of research and called several offices there. And looked into the ingredients pre-purchase a bit.
-It's like 1millionx better than buying Sam-e, Lithium orotate, random herbs or whatever the hell I did last year and didn't even use, also MMJ. ---that was desperation.
-NOW a lot of those things would help but not in -10000% health.
-I'm super thankful to @Helen and a lot of others here (IHF, tubz, aztec, joe etc). Yes, nicer if this shyt didn't happen but I'm not capable of going back in time... yet.
-Most of IHF's and Tubz and Helen's advice that I took (didn't take all but near all for several of them -- not every protocol obviously, Im just one guy) helped.
-If it didn't help me - I dropped it, like Collagen. --also look at @Goose12 -- a very rationale and mature adult who stuck out TEI a long time w/ gains to show for it.
-Lastly:
--We definitely don't need more suicides/ severe depression. Trust me, been there. It's fucking awful and wish it on no one. Had some in friends also (other reasons).
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What are you talking about? I proposed Ihatefin to take anavar. And we all took it at the same time. there are at least 7 people who took it. including Boris, and still many people are taking it now. even for PSSD.
Ihatefin did not get cured on var , neither did anyone from other people. He is taking some supplements that help his PFS besides Var.
Joe is on testosterone for a year already)) You think that is cheap? LOL you can go and see how many people recovered from test on propecia forum. There is a thread there, and people took exact same dosage and stayed on it for a long time
I proposed testosterone with progesterone from day one on this forum ))
YOu can easily go and take anavar. or any other drug that you want.
But I had 2 people already in emergency rooms after DHT gels. experiments,
Look at what happened to Minimi. he took antiprogestin. And lost everything. his hair, his libido, everything. And I do feel really bad for people like that.
Some people who are willing to experiment are experimenting. those are people who have some knowledge to experiment/
We started this thread for people who are new and who dont know anything, and have very little understanding of things.
What RU for them, What anavar? what hormones?
As of now I am personally trying to fix people with PSSD. and PFS. and we are experimenting with things. Joe is doing think, Ihate is doing things.
When they are off hormones, or it sticks, then may be we can consider hormones.
WE have a group of responsible people who are experimenting, but we dont want everyone to experiment here. It does not end well. and it could end in deaths. WE DONT WANT that to happen
This is why < I am taking on people like Barbaar, and we are testing things in and out for PSSD and we will try all the things. And then if it works.
this regimen will be added onto here.
In the mean time as we are trying things out with the core group. people who are new and have problems with energy , with mood, with this and with that, can start fixing himself. and we will know that those people are not harming themselves and improving their baseline
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Lets agree that @IHateFin wouldve taken Anavar anyway
Look, 7 people might have taken anavar, but these logs are not public and other people are taking this and other stuff now in silence. I dont see the benefit in that.
I see iHatefin with some very promising results, and there is little discussion around it. People are just doing other random stuff because of the lack of discussion.
We recently had a suicide on the PSSD forum, out of simple despair. I rather take a step back once and a while rather to get the feeling i am stuck. Hope you can relate a little bit bro.
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@Jaxx People like you like talkingant ( who already tried anavar by the way )) can experiment with stuff no problems, since you guys take the responsibility
but what am I supposed to do with people who end up in emergency rooms, and kill themselves.
same shit happened on propeciahelp. We need to avoid that here. We are the scape goats. I took fin 3 times for you guys, just to test it and on the 3d time I fucked myself up. And I took me 1.5 to get out of it.
Orion is taking electrolytes protocol, he is feeling great, Tony is feeling good libido and energy just after one round of TEI/
Joe is not having libido on testosterone it is impossible, He has erections.
Goose has libido and 100% erection without taking anything already. He is the one who stuck on TEI, and when he quits TEI , he feels almost recovered. WITHOUT ANYTHING
but what am I supposed to do with people who end up in emergency rooms, and kill themselves.
same shit happened on propeciahelp. We need to avoid that here. We are the scape goats. I took fin 3 times for you guys, just to test it and on the 3d time I fucked myself up. And I took me 1.5 to get out of it.
Orion is taking electrolytes protocol, he is feeling great, Tony is feeling good libido and energy just after one round of TEI/
Joe is not having libido on testosterone it is impossible, He has erections.
Goose has libido and 100% erection without taking anything already. He is the one who stuck on TEI, and when he quits TEI , he feels almost recovered. WITHOUT ANYTHING
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-I could be wrong, but I think people do random things out of desperation and also it's hard for them to internalize all the things on here, and FOR SURE: English barrier for many. I realize I offer no solution here, just saying. --Like last year I bought a lot of expensive random supplements... when really fasting owned all of them combined(which I never actually used most. Threw all from storage several months ago). --But people saying their well should be fine enough... ---> can't track every single day of itchy scalp or a 9/10 vs 8.75/10 erection... people would go fucking crazy like that, no?
--impulsivity and indecision too. I mean I'm extremely impulsive but I got it in check here at least since Jan but more and more over the last 6months.
-treatment wise at least for health stuff... the rest of life... ya i go back and forth, but it is what it is. I am who i am. I like / love me again.
-You gotta love yourself like your life depends on it! - Because, it truly does.
--impulsivity and indecision too. I mean I'm extremely impulsive but I got it in check here at least since Jan but more and more over the last 6months.
-treatment wise at least for health stuff... the rest of life... ya i go back and forth, but it is what it is. I am who i am. I like / love me again.
-You gotta love yourself like your life depends on it! - Because, it truly does.
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Lets agree that @IHateFin wouldve taken Anavar anyway
Look, 7 people might have taken anavar, but these logs are not public and other people are taking this and other stuff now in silence. I dont see the benefit in that.
I see iHatefin with some very promising results, and there is little discussion around it. People are just doing other random stuff because of the lack of discussion.
We recently had a suicide on the PSSD forum, out of simple despair. I rather take a step back once and a while rather to get the feeling i am stuck. Hope you can relate a little bit bro.
because we did not have the same results with anavar. ihatefin is very impulsive. and takes all kinds of stuff, he had the same results from RU also. And the same feedback.
We have discussion in his log. And I asked him to take nothing and and understand his new baseline. or lack of it.
PSSD person talkingant took anavar and discussed it and he is your body chemistry PSSD, Boris took anavar and discussed it in his log and we even did blood testing. And he took anavar already 2 times))
so I have no clue why you look at Ihatefin. and not talkingant
Following that logic, why not make a more restricted area to try things then? You have been hypothesizing quite a bit about a PSSD variation of the electrolyte protocol. It could pay off to test with a larger group that is considered responsible.
I do understand that not every new member here should be doing random stuff immediately. But i think there are still so many leads with dopamine, progesterone, electrolytes anavar that should be explored and i know for a fact are now simply off the radar.