Ihatefin log

[Goose12]

I was also wondering do you notice more benefits from your r andro cycle post RU? How does it compare to Pre RU run?

Also should we run some kind of pct a couple weeks after RU?

I feel like my improvements from ru are starting to slow down, but it's still to early to tell. I can't wait to run ru around 10mg for three days. I feel really great about my first run and can't wait to build on it.

 

[IHateFin]

I was also wondering do you notice more benefits from your r andro cycle post RU? How does it compare to Pre RU run?

Also should we run some kind of pct a couple weeks after RU?

I feel like my improvements from ru are starting to slow down, but it's still to early to tell. I can't wait to run ru around 10mg for three days. I feel really great about my first run and can't wait to build on it.

I noticed that after Ru I respond differently to a few things such as DHT get, my trans-reversotrol, Randro/ Androsterone so im not sure why, but I would assume it is due to a shift in androgen dominance or androgen receptor dominance/changes from ru.

PCT from ru is not necessary since it actually up-regulates the HPA which is the opposite of something that requires a PCT as PCT is used to jump start an HPA when its been shut down.

how long have you been off again for? I still got new improvements around 2 week mark. if it has slowed give it like 5 days to make that determination for sure and then let that homeostasis get nice and settled with your body for 2 more weeks before taking ru at the 10mg dose. definitely getting close to that home stretch tho, bud!

 

[Goose12]

I was also wondering do you notice more benefits from your r andro cycle post RU? How does it compare to Pre RU run?

Also should we run some kind of pct a couple weeks after RU?

I feel like my improvements from ru are starting to slow down, but it's still to early to tell. I can't wait to run ru around 10mg for three days. I feel really great about my first run and can't wait to build on it.

I noticed that after Ru I respond differently to a few things such as DHT get, my trans-reversotrol, Randro/ Androsterone so im not sure why, but I would assume it is due to a shift in androgen dominance or androgen receptor dominance/changes from ru.

PCT from ru is not necessary since it actually up-regulates the HPA which is the opposite of something that requires a PCT as PCT is used to jump start an HPA when its been shut down.

how long have you been off again for? I still got new improvements around 2 week mark. if it has slowed give it like 5 days to make that determination for sure and then let that homeostasis get nice and settled with your body for 2 more weeks before taking ru at the 10mg dose. definitely getting close to that home stretch tho, bud!

Do you get a better response from r Andro now?

Nice to know pct is not needed. I thought so because people use it as a pct but just wanted to double check.

I have been off RU for 12 days and I feel really good. I plan on waiting at least three weeks, basically what you, said before running it again.

Do you think I could run CDnuts herbs in the meantime, before my next run? I know I should probably run as clean as possiblebut it's hard to be patient lol.

 

[IHateFin]

I was also wondering do you notice more benefits from your r andro cycle post RU? How does it compare to Pre RU run?

Also should we run some kind of pct a couple weeks after RU?

I feel like my improvements from ru are starting to slow down, but it's still to early to tell. I can't wait to run ru around 10mg for three days. I feel really great about my first run and can't wait to build on it.

I noticed that after Ru I respond differently to a few things such as DHT get, my trans-reversotrol, Randro/ Androsterone so im not sure why, but I would assume it is due to a shift in androgen dominance or androgen receptor dominance/changes from ru.

PCT from ru is not necessary since it actually up-regulates the HPA which is the opposite of something that requires a PCT as PCT is used to jump start an HPA when its been shut down.

how long have you been off again for? I still got new improvements around 2 week mark. if it has slowed give it like 5 days to make that determination for sure and then let that homeostasis get nice and settled with your body for 2 more weeks before taking ru at the 10mg dose. definitely getting close to that home stretch tho, bud!

Do you get a better response from r Andro now?

Nice to know pct is not needed. I thought so because people use it as a pct but just wanted to double check.

I have been off RU for 12 days and I feel really good. I plan on waiting at least three weeks, basically what you, said before running it again.

Do you think I could run CDnuts herbs in the meantime, before my next run? I know I should probably run as clean as possiblebut it's hard to be patient lol.

yeah definitely. its not crazy like day n night, but I do respond better now and Im hopping that's what I need for the Randro snap back. overall im responding better to exogenous androgen.

bro you are like me!! haha I am the WORST with patience lol and to top it all off I have a vitamin shop in my room basically and it is hard to just stick to one or two things. they make jokes about me here about it hahaha

I wouldn't run CDnuts as in take other supplements that you weren't already taking in the meantime especially pine pollen... do not touch pine pollen right now man.
if you wanted to still cycle supplements that you already take or do a fast then im all for that. fasting will help for sure, but don't throw in a bunch of new supplements.

 

[Goose12]

yeah definitely. its not crazy like day n night, but I do respond better now and Im hopping that's what I need for the Randro snap back. overall im responding better to exogenous androgen.

bro you are like me!! haha I am the WORST with patience lol and to top it all off I have a vitamin shop in my room basically and it is hard to just stick to one or two things. they make jokes about me here about it hahaha

I wouldn't run CDnuts as in take other supplements that you weren't already taking in the meantime especially pine pollen... do not touch pine pollen right now man.
if you wanted to still cycle supplements that you already take or do a fast then im all for that. fasting will help for sure, but don't throw in a bunch of new supplements.

Your right, I just need to be patient.

I am the same way, I have at least three thousand dollars worth of herbs right now collecting dust lol. A fast sounds like a good idea.

That's great to hear r andro is having more of an effect, even if it's just a little bit.

 

[IHateFin]

Update:

Hey long time no update. I've been noticing I get waves on feeling very androgenic and wood can go from great to meh.
Mood has started to pick up more n more. I have had days where I am very horny to specifically masterbate haha and I can do it 3 times in a short period of time. Then I have days where I don't feel it as much but mood is still good. Seems promising and I'm looking forward to the snap back come end of November. I had sex with my gf today n my sensativity was fucking nuts! Quite possibly better than prefin! And I lasted foreverrrr teas nice. I'm limiting my faping tho to once a week maybe twice n that's been probs helping a lot too.

 

[aztec]

[mention]IHateFin[/mention] that’s what I am talking about my boy! I love hearing this kind of news. I have a feeling your Thanksgiving will feel special and there will be lots to be thankful for.

 

[BeLikeWater]

Re: REALLY DIRTY TRIALS

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Didn't some guy take inositol and Ella with PSSD whom got cured? <br/>
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I'm trying to keep it as clean as possible but I had a little gyno flare up from prog antagonism. Which is good and bad haha good that my estrogen got more sensitive and the ru worked! But now I have a little gyno cuz dht didn't kick in due to the longer ru trial.<br/>
I had to put some topical dht on my nip yes my one nipple lol other one has no gyno. <br/>
It reduced haha
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Gyno from high prolactin maybe because too much estrogen unopposed? <br/>
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Maybe take ru with DHT or 5ar activators to have enough DHT floating around?</r>

 

[IHateFin]

@IHateFin that’s what I am talking about my boy! I love hearing this kind of news. I have a feeling your Thanksgiving will feel special and there will be lots to be thankful for.

ill be giving thanks to all kinds of boners! haha

 

[IHateFin]

Re: REALLY DIRTY TRIALS

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Didn't some guy take inositol and Ella with PSSD whom got cured? <br/>
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I'm trying to keep it as clean as possible but I had a little gyno flare up from prog antagonism. Which is good and bad haha good that my estrogen got more sensitive and the ru worked! But now I have a little gyno cuz dht didn't kick in due to the longer ru trial.<br/>
I had to put some topical dht on my nip yes my one nipple lol other one has no gyno. <br/>
It reduced haha
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Gyno from high prolactin maybe because too much estrogen unopposed? <br/>
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Maybe take ru with DHT or 5ar activators to have enough DHT floating around?
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yeah im thinking it was a combo of estrogen unopposed and the prolactin sides both of which are due to the weak anti-androgen action of Ru486. it reduces androgens abilities to reduce prolactin and wont let DHT come back on line at 50mg doses.<br/>
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im starting to think 3 day of 5 to 10mg doses of ru486 would be the magic protocol. this is shown to be more than enough to destroy prog and there should be such a small amount that DHT should be able to come back with no issue.<br/>
the DHT activators would help too like maybe some boron and creatine and LCarnitine</r>

 

[expendable]

Re: REALLY DIRTY TRIALS

<r><QUOTE author="IHateFin" post_id="2710" time="1508987183" user_id="48"><s>

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yeah im thinking it was a combo of estrogen unopposed and the prolactin sides both of which are due to the weak anti-androgen action of Ru486. it reduces androgens abilities to reduce prolactin and wont let DHT come back on line at 50mg doses.<br/>
<br/>
im starting to think 3 day of 5 to 10mg doses of ru486 would be the magic protocol. this is shown to be more than enough to destroy prog and there should be such a small amount that DHT should be able to come back with no issue.<br/>
the DHT activators would help too like maybe some boron and creatine and LCarnitine
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this theory is your baby <E>:lol:</E></r>

 

[IHateFin]

Re: REALLY DIRTY TRIALS

<r><QUOTE author="expendable" post_id="2711" time="1508988433" user_id="53"><s>

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<QUOTE author="IHateFin" post_id="2710" time="1508987183" user_id="48"><s>

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yeah im thinking it was a combo of estrogen unopposed and the prolactin sides both of which are due to the weak anti-androgen action of Ru486. it reduces androgens abilities to reduce prolactin and wont let DHT come back on line at 50mg doses.<br/>
<br/>
im starting to think 3 day of 5 to 10mg doses of ru486 would be the magic protocol. this is shown to be more than enough to destroy prog and there should be such a small amount that DHT should be able to come back with no issue.<br/>
the DHT activators would help too like maybe some boron and creatine and LCarnitine
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this theory is your baby <E>:lol:</E>
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dude it really is <E></E> and im nursing it until my baby is ready to be put in practice lol</r>

 

[aztec]

[mention]IHateFin[/mention] that baby is going to drink plenty of milk and grow strong haha!

 

[5 alpha]

Correct.

That's good if you are feeling the snap back.
I am at a point where physically and emotionally I do not feel to jump on any protocol at the moment.
I have been throu all PFS phases during all these years and I guess now I am in a weird situation because I have 100% strong erections lasting even after ejaculation, but the main problem is the drop of pleasure in my brain and the drop of libido...so I have an hard dick without having a dick in my brain.
I want to give time a little chance before to jump to any protocol.

I'd say give yourself some time.

Pine pollen is good, but I wouldn't reccomend it to everyone. For me pine pollen FUCKS me up like as if I have taken 10 big steps back. This is because of the high DHEA content of pine pollen. DHEA destroys me and I will never touch that or pine pollen with a 10 foot pole haha

Be careful with that stuff man haha I don't doubt that it has tremendous healing power for some, but it can be hit or miss and when it's a miss it hurts man haha

I took 1 table spoon of pine pollen a day for about ten days and started getting digestive issues that felt similar to my last Saw P mishap. haven't touched it since

 

[IHateFin]

hair seems to have different texture. seems more soft n silky n flatter. I like it!
I have noticed that inositol id def giving me low potassium constipation, but the diarrhea inducing effect kinda balances it self out, but it barely affects me now so im just left with slight constipation haha

sleep is so fucking good rn. 100% prefin and I feel very refreshed when I awake with 0 feelings of grogginess.

 

[jacknap]

hair seems to have different texture. seems more soft n silky n flatter. I like it!
I have noticed that inositol id def giving me low potassium constipation, but the diarrhea inducing effect kinda balances it self out, but it barely affects me now so im just left with slight constipation haha

sleep is so fucking good rn. 100% prefin and I feel very refreshed when I awake with 0 feelings of grogginess.

nice. I thought u didnt have sleep issues from pfs though? what u think helped u the most with sleep?

mine got almost pre-crash levels xept last night i crashed to like where i was 2-3 months ago. hopefully just a one off thing and not a lower baseline lol.

crazy how the bad sleep makes other symptoms = the bad mood, anxiety, low energy, low drive etc.

when my sleep was almost normal, I was way more optimistic and felt like I was gunna recover any day now lol

 

[IHateFin]

hair seems to have different texture. seems more soft n silky n flatter. I like it!
I have noticed that inositol id def giving me low potassium constipation, but the diarrhea inducing effect kinda balances it self out, but it barely affects me now so im just left with slight constipation haha

sleep is so fucking good rn. 100% prefin and I feel very refreshed when I awake with 0 feelings of grogginess.

nice. I thought u didnt have sleep issues from pfs though? what u think helped u the most with sleep?

mine got almost pre-crash levels xept last night i crashed to like where i was 2-3 months ago. hopefully just a one off thing and not a lower baseline lol.

crazy how the bad sleep makes other symptoms = the bad mood, anxiety, low energy, low drive etc.

when my sleep was almost normal, I was way more optimistic and felt like I was gunna recover any day now lol

I didn't but the feeling I get after sleep or length before waking is prefin and I love it!

I took a little trans reversotrol last night n felt good but today I'm meh haha crazy how little things can affect us.

I took 1/6th of the Thorne extra vitamin dose which is 1pill yesterday just to feed some cofactors and I felt so good yesterday morning and such! It was so lit haha I'll probs never take reversotrol again just to be safe n take my Thorne extra like once or twice a week.

As for your set back I'm sure your good, bro! Fixing this sickness is always a battle of ups n downs

 

[jacknap]

hair seems to have different texture. seems more soft n silky n flatter. I like it!
I have noticed that inositol id def giving me low potassium constipation, but the diarrhea inducing effect kinda balances it self out, but it barely affects me now so im just left with slight constipation haha

sleep is so fucking good rn. 100% prefin and I feel very refreshed when I awake with 0 feelings of grogginess.

nice. I thought u didnt have sleep issues from pfs though? what u think helped u the most with sleep?

mine got almost pre-crash levels xept last night i crashed to like where i was 2-3 months ago. hopefully just a one off thing and not a lower baseline lol.

crazy how the bad sleep makes other symptoms = the bad mood, anxiety, low energy, low drive etc.

when my sleep was almost normal, I was way more optimistic and felt like I was gunna recover any day now lol

I didn't but the feeling I get after sleep or length before waking is prefin and I love it!

I took a little trans reversotrol last night n felt good but today I'm meh haha crazy how little things can affect us.

I took 1/6th of the Thorne extra vitamin dose which is 1pill yesterday just to feed some cofactors and I felt so good yesterday morning and such! It was so lit haha I'll probs never take reversotrol again just to be safe n take my Thorne extra like once or twice a week.

As for your set back I'm sure your good, bro! Fixing this sickness is always a battle of ups n downs

just finished my first bottle of thorne extra will likely get one more.

my sleep was like 95% last night so i'm back baby lol. just woke up once. hopefully the pace of recovery keeps up so this shit as a thing of the past. I've been feeling like 10% better every month.

 

[Snow1]

nice. I thought u didnt have sleep issues from pfs though? what u think helped u the most with sleep?

mine got almost pre-crash levels xept last night i crashed to like where i was 2-3 months ago. hopefully just a one off thing and not a lower baseline lol.

crazy how the bad sleep makes other symptoms = the bad mood, anxiety, low energy, low drive etc.

when my sleep was almost normal, I was way more optimistic and felt like I was gunna recover any day now lol

I didn't but the feeling I get after sleep or length before waking is prefin and I love it!

I took a little trans reversotrol last night n felt good but today I'm meh haha crazy how little things can affect us.

I took 1/6th of the Thorne extra vitamin dose which is 1pill yesterday just to feed some cofactors and I felt so good yesterday morning and such! It was so lit haha I'll probs never take reversotrol again just to be safe n take my Thorne extra like once or twice a week.

As for your set back I'm sure your good, bro! Fixing this sickness is always a battle of ups n downs

just finished my first bottle of thorne extra will likely get one more.

my sleep was like 95% last night so i'm back baby lol. just woke up once. hopefully the pace of recovery keeps up so this shit as a thing of the past. I've been feeling like 10% better every month.

This throne extra sounds pretty good, might he me bottle for shits and giggles and give it a whirl a couple of times a week and see what happens.

 

[Aflac94]

hair seems to have different texture. seems more soft n silky n flatter. I like it!
I have noticed that inositol id def giving me low potassium constipation, but the diarrhea inducing effect kinda balances it self out, but it barely affects me now so im just left with slight constipation haha

sleep is so fucking good rn. 100% prefin and I feel very refreshed when I awake with 0 feelings of grogginess.

nice. I thought u didnt have sleep issues from pfs though? what u think helped u the most with sleep?

mine got almost pre-crash levels xept last night i crashed to like where i was 2-3 months ago. hopefully just a one off thing and not a lower baseline lol.

crazy how the bad sleep makes other symptoms = the bad mood, anxiety, low energy, low drive etc.

when my sleep was almost normal, I was way more optimistic and felt like I was gunna recover any day now lol

Hey Jacknap from all the supplements you posted what do you think helped most in getting your sleep back to pre-crash levels?
My sleep has been shit for a year and a half now since my crash. Nothing fixes it, kills me