I look at both, ihatefin did well on RU, i did on ella. Im not jumping on any boat atm.
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i would wait a month between, man and maybe pair ella with tribulous when you hop off
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update!!
hey, guys!! dont worry i didnt forget about this place i went on a hiatus so that i could see how things are changing for me and make more of a big update instead of update everyday with super minor differences. so i am back a month later with GREAT news and some meh news and a tiny TINNYYY bit of badish news.
so the great news first!
the great news is anavar is amazing and i was only on for two weeks as you know. all results have stuck and i have gained so much more all while keeping my hair.
so after 2 weeks off i noticed after my buddies wedding i would feel great in the morning but get tierd and junk would get cold shortly after noon and i didnt know why but seemed like low test.
at this time i was only taking bcomplex and 50mg b6 (still am btw) so i took some vitamin D 3000 ui and 30 min later i was alive! i was goofy and all and morning wood was back that night it was great.
i had a trip to TX coming up and i felt so good that trip breathing euphoria and genuinely looking forward to anything. i was empathetic and all. libido had tapered a bit at that point, but present. i noticed that a tad too much D my body couldnt handle so i felt weirdish but only temp feeling and life would come back. i slipped histidine in there here n there for a bit of a boost and even when i took something that didnt "agree" with me i still felt stable. thats the best i can describe it!
so after a wonderful week of feeling myself and allowing my family to see that side of me (hiccups where there like reaction to stress was meh on a few occasions) over all i noticed more body comp changes as if i was dieting but i wasnt. muscles got fuller and all my size 30 waist pants started fitting big yet still tight around the thigh for the muscle. face looked sunken in like a mother fucker.
here are some pics showing i was being goofy in most pics! in fact i almost feel like i took more silly pictures than nice ones with my family. it was nice feeling myself and being able to show my family that side of me who are all unaware of what i have been going through.
so when i get back i did start expirimenting with sups adding vit D 1000ui to not get into the too much territory and through in vitE and choline and histidine and boy oh boy!! i even did some potassium and for 3 days i was 99.9% cured my friends!!! WOW! my face looked sunckin in AF
here is a pic and feel free to judge me on my douchie-ness but you can see how much my face is looking like a normal mans face. i also noticed more hair growth on my hand and arms and existing hair grew longer and darker. so during these 3 days of heaven i took only histidine, bcomplex, b6 50mg and some potassium and i was horny af popping boners all day at work and fantisizing all day and i noticed semial fluid huge increase and force of ejaculate. i didnt do much cuming while in texas so i cant say how it was at that time, but during this week which actually was just this past week i was 99% cured and wow! i was a goofy, energetic, loud almost terrets having man child it was bliss...
.. this is where the meh news comes in..
so i took potassium a few days too many and started feeling anxious and have not fully recovered yet... thursday and firday should not have taken it which means i woulda only taken it 2 days instead of 4. after i took it friday my super warm and almost consistently sweaty dick n balls cooled down a bit and raging libido subsided a tad. im assuming from lowering prog too uch so all i can do now it wait it out, but man for a bit there i lived! obvious this hurts my psyche a bit where i worry ill never get it back, but i must say im handling it light years better than before.
today is sunday and im good, stable but just okay. yesterday i was back to being stupid and goofy and laughing all the time, but took vtD and E mid day and it calmed me down which is not a good thing. im still a bit rocky as you can see, but i dont get shot to the ground when i take something maybe i shouldnt like before. thats why i say im way more stable. i can tell something epi-genetic switched back after var and i still have a ways to go...
so thats the badish news haha the badish news is im still not cured and a few vitamin misteps still can negatively affect me.
sorry i have been away so long, but all of you and this forum have always remained at the back of my mind! thats for the patience, fellas!! i now have some catching up to do to see how others are doing.
@JasonSky
@brix
@wuf
@BeLikeWater
@Helen
@Jaxx
.... and no, helen im not on tren LOL i saw that comment..
hey, guys!! dont worry i didnt forget about this place i went on a hiatus so that i could see how things are changing for me and make more of a big update instead of update everyday with super minor differences. so i am back a month later with GREAT news and some meh news and a tiny TINNYYY bit of badish news.
so the great news first!
the great news is anavar is amazing and i was only on for two weeks as you know. all results have stuck and i have gained so much more all while keeping my hair.
so after 2 weeks off i noticed after my buddies wedding i would feel great in the morning but get tierd and junk would get cold shortly after noon and i didnt know why but seemed like low test.
at this time i was only taking bcomplex and 50mg b6 (still am btw) so i took some vitamin D 3000 ui and 30 min later i was alive! i was goofy and all and morning wood was back that night it was great.
i had a trip to TX coming up and i felt so good that trip breathing euphoria and genuinely looking forward to anything. i was empathetic and all. libido had tapered a bit at that point, but present. i noticed that a tad too much D my body couldnt handle so i felt weirdish but only temp feeling and life would come back. i slipped histidine in there here n there for a bit of a boost and even when i took something that didnt "agree" with me i still felt stable. thats the best i can describe it!
so after a wonderful week of feeling myself and allowing my family to see that side of me (hiccups where there like reaction to stress was meh on a few occasions) over all i noticed more body comp changes as if i was dieting but i wasnt. muscles got fuller and all my size 30 waist pants started fitting big yet still tight around the thigh for the muscle. face looked sunken in like a mother fucker.
here are some pics showing i was being goofy in most pics! in fact i almost feel like i took more silly pictures than nice ones with my family. it was nice feeling myself and being able to show my family that side of me who are all unaware of what i have been going through.
so when i get back i did start expirimenting with sups adding vit D 1000ui to not get into the too much territory and through in vitE and choline and histidine and boy oh boy!! i even did some potassium and for 3 days i was 99.9% cured my friends!!! WOW! my face looked sunckin in AF
here is a pic and feel free to judge me on my douchie-ness but you can see how much my face is looking like a normal mans face. i also noticed more hair growth on my hand and arms and existing hair grew longer and darker. so during these 3 days of heaven i took only histidine, bcomplex, b6 50mg and some potassium and i was horny af popping boners all day at work and fantisizing all day and i noticed semial fluid huge increase and force of ejaculate. i didnt do much cuming while in texas so i cant say how it was at that time, but during this week which actually was just this past week i was 99% cured and wow! i was a goofy, energetic, loud almost terrets having man child it was bliss...
.. this is where the meh news comes in..
so i took potassium a few days too many and started feeling anxious and have not fully recovered yet... thursday and firday should not have taken it which means i woulda only taken it 2 days instead of 4. after i took it friday my super warm and almost consistently sweaty dick n balls cooled down a bit and raging libido subsided a tad. im assuming from lowering prog too uch so all i can do now it wait it out, but man for a bit there i lived! obvious this hurts my psyche a bit where i worry ill never get it back, but i must say im handling it light years better than before.
today is sunday and im good, stable but just okay. yesterday i was back to being stupid and goofy and laughing all the time, but took vtD and E mid day and it calmed me down which is not a good thing. im still a bit rocky as you can see, but i dont get shot to the ground when i take something maybe i shouldnt like before. thats why i say im way more stable. i can tell something epi-genetic switched back after var and i still have a ways to go...
so thats the badish news haha the badish news is im still not cured and a few vitamin misteps still can negatively affect me.
sorry i have been away so long, but all of you and this forum have always remained at the back of my mind! thats for the patience, fellas!! i now have some catching up to do to see how others are doing.
@JasonSky
@brix
@wuf
@BeLikeWater
@Helen
@Jaxx
.... and no, helen im not on tren LOL i saw that comment..
You are looking good. Your body doesn’t look like a pfs body at all. You look normal.
And did you use fin for hairloss lol? I don’t see any hairloss haha
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thanks, man! my body was one with androgens before all this so it has copped better than some. even during its worst most couldnt tell from the outside.
yes, i used it for hairloss right when it started and my hairline is low since im hispanic and thic so i hopped on fin right away since my buddy did the same but he was waaaaay far gone... i didnt want to end up like him. its been 4 years and most of the hair i did lose has grown back too
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Yeah im gonna judge you on your douchiness. Im gonna judge you how FUUCKING awesome it is to see you act this way.
Im really happy for you man, glad the effect stuck for you and that you were able to be 99.99% cured for some time. That shit right there says that there is a cure for pfs.
Dont know what potassium did, but im pretty sure that over time your body will just realign itself in the right direction.
Only time will tell
Im really happy for you man, glad the effect stuck for you and that you were able to be 99.99% cured for some time. That shit right there says that there is a cure for pfs.
Dont know what potassium did, but im pretty sure that over time your body will just realign itself in the right direction.
Only time will tell
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Fuck
Fuck amazing muscles and all that hair why the hell did you used fin? I'm jealous in a good way bro!
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What a fucking boss lol. Glad anavar stuck for you. Got some questions:
What was your var dosage?
What are your plans going forward?
Are you considering another var cyce?
Regarding vitamins, aminos, electrolytes/minerals, can you reiterate what combo works best for you?
What was your diet like during the month or so since starting var?
How did genital numbness change during/after the cycle, it at all?
What was your var dosage?
What are your plans going forward?
Are you considering another var cyce?
Regarding vitamins, aminos, electrolytes/minerals, can you reiterate what combo works best for you?
What was your diet like during the month or so since starting var?
How did genital numbness change during/after the cycle, it at all?
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i have plenty of var now so i actually do have some to send
haha i recently bought 150 more pills cuz i likes to be stocked up!thanks, man! im glad those vitamins are working for you, and they also helped me a lot before too! var def did adjust something on the receptor level is the best assumption i can make about it. i think it helped sensitize cort, prog receptors which indirectly affected androgen receptors.. or maybe it also directly affected androgen receptors too. hard to say since receptors cant be tested aside from biopsy.
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Yeah im gonna judge you on your douchiness. Im gonna judge you how FUUCKING awesome it is to see you act this way.
Im really happy for you man, glad the effect stuck for you and that you were able to be 99.99% cured for some time. That shit right there says that there is a cure for pfs.
Dont know what potassium did, but im pretty sure that over time your body will just realign itself in the right direction.
Only time will tell
hahaha thanks, buddy!!!
PFS is cureable, and i think helen talking about the cort n prog receptors is a big component which var seems to affect.
as much as i didnt want to post while negatively effected by a suppliment i think its good and lends some extra insight that wouldnt have been there had i posted my update while 99.99% cured. it shows that yes i feel much better and more stable and vitamins help me more and hurt me less than before, but no im not fully cured and i do still have a ways to go. the ride now is a much smoother one
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thanks, man!!
i used fin right as shit hit the fan so my hair loss wasnt noticable to others yet and over the last 4 years a lot grew back in the front.
i read your updates and im glad your back out of that place n ready to give some things a go! i hope that maybe we can get you some awesome PFS, hair n muscle gainz on here! plus i have come a long way as i mentioned to you from jizzing water to this so we will get ya there, buddy. since we are all dif its hard to get a "one size fits all" protocol, but var may be the one protocol that can work for the masses at a higher rate than other protocols.
these trials have been insightful to say the least
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@IHateFin Can you take nothing and tell us your baseline. Since as of now I honestly dont get what is your baseline. You took var, then went off var, everything died. then you took D , then potassium with histidine and almost the whole electrolytes protocol
Tubzy reacted to var the same way you did. He felt great on var. When he came off , he felt much less energy and like you he felt he was tired.
to get rid of that feeling he constantly needs to load things now.
tubzy went on var second time, but his cortisol as we measured it in blood, already fell down, this time he felt like shit on var. And came off var after 5 days
and now he is loading on electrolytes via Juicing.
We did not really experience any change, the only thing we did experience with Var was cortisol up and down.
this explains that the people with low cortisol did not feel great while on var . and people with high cortisol and water retention felt good on var.
Since var lowers cortisol
And actually people with high cortisol and low testoterone not only dont get suppressed on VAR. Their Testosterone goes up. Same as happened with Tubzy/
Until cortisol goes down, VAR will not suppress you it will actually increase LH.
So if someone had water retention from high cortisol. taken var or ella or ru gets rid of water retention. since it kills cortisol mainly.
Potassium b6 ( b2) histidine etc that is the combo that I used without even any var.
This is why it is important to access what var does and what it does not do. Since we will have people jump on it. and We already had a lot of people jump on DHT gel previous weeks and some of them now at the emergency heart attack level. SO we have to be unbiased and careful.
I did push anavar on this website. But I need to collect proper info about the trials.
Tubzy reacted to var the same way you did. He felt great on var. When he came off , he felt much less energy and like you he felt he was tired.
to get rid of that feeling he constantly needs to load things now.
tubzy went on var second time, but his cortisol as we measured it in blood, already fell down, this time he felt like shit on var. And came off var after 5 days
and now he is loading on electrolytes via Juicing.
We did not really experience any change, the only thing we did experience with Var was cortisol up and down.
this explains that the people with low cortisol did not feel great while on var . and people with high cortisol and water retention felt good on var.
Since var lowers cortisol
And actually people with high cortisol and low testoterone not only dont get suppressed on VAR. Their Testosterone goes up. Same as happened with Tubzy/
Until cortisol goes down, VAR will not suppress you it will actually increase LH.
So if someone had water retention from high cortisol. taken var or ella or ru gets rid of water retention. since it kills cortisol mainly.
Potassium b6 ( b2) histidine etc that is the combo that I used without even any var.
This is why it is important to access what var does and what it does not do. Since we will have people jump on it. and We already had a lot of people jump on DHT gel previous weeks and some of them now at the emergency heart attack level. SO we have to be unbiased and careful.
I did push anavar on this website. But I need to collect proper info about the trials.
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thanks, my dude! the road ahead seems to now be a much smoother one!
What was your var dosage?
i used 20 to 30mg once a day all in the morning. the reason for the varied dose was that my pill cutter is ass and it sometimes would cut the pill janky, but i was aiming for 25mg which was half the pill.
What are your plans going forward?
my plan right now is to keep experimenting with the vitamins and aminos until mid November and then go for a 2nd var cycle at maybe double the dose (50mg a day) split 4 hours apart . a part of me thinks that the all at once dose works better for me so i will most likely try both n then stick with one. i also plan on increasing the time on to a minimum of 4 weeks and my first cycle was 2 weeks. i kinda want to be on var for the holidays so thanksgiving, christmas and new years haha
Are you considering another var cyce?
yes, sir!
Regarding vitamins, aminos, electrolytes/minerals, can you reiterate what combo works best for you?
best combo so far has been histidine, b6 50mg, bcomplex, 600mg potassium and 1000ui of D. it sent me for a few days of cured state.
What was your diet like during the month or so since starting var?
my diet was the same all the way through, avoiding PUFAs and no GMOs or fast food, soda or anything like that. eating whatever i want so long as i cooked it myself and met the criteria that i just listed.
How did genital numbness change during/after the cycle, it at all?
well for me before the cycle my genitals werent numb by any means, but sensitivity varied a tad and they were at times very cold to the touch. during the cycle and especially this past week, before i took potassium for a few days too many, my dick and balls were VERY warm and sees much more oily. sack drooped all the time n peepee seemed fluffier LOL. now after too much potassium they are a tad chillier, but its still fluffy and balls sometimes hand the same, but some of the sweaty, oiliness has subsided... darn that potassium.. shoulda quit while ahead lol but its good it happened to show the bell curve effect and the still much more stable "suppliment crash" if you wanna call it that
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Glad you’re doing well man!
But yea as our girl Helen stated above, you’re putting things in your system that are helping no doubt.
Histidine makes me feel somewhat cured when I’m feeling well (currently not, Lyme issues.) That amino is extremely strong when it comes to this. For example, last year RU/prog gave me huge boost- then when I stopped I moved right to histidine/zinc finger aminos. This was when I really started feeling great.
So maybe we find a way of using drug/hormone/steroid like var, ru, progs of world followed by health circuit including aminos like histidine.
There are definitely different cases of pfs. And different routes, but Var definitely seems promising. Esspecially followed with good health, mineral balance, aminos etc.
But yea as our girl Helen stated above, you’re putting things in your system that are helping no doubt.
Histidine makes me feel somewhat cured when I’m feeling well (currently not, Lyme issues.) That amino is extremely strong when it comes to this. For example, last year RU/prog gave me huge boost- then when I stopped I moved right to histidine/zinc finger aminos. This was when I really started feeling great.
So maybe we find a way of using drug/hormone/steroid like var, ru, progs of world followed by health circuit including aminos like histidine.
There are definitely different cases of pfs. And different routes, but Var definitely seems promising. Esspecially followed with good health, mineral balance, aminos etc.
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Haha, his libido is back baby.
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Looking good man.
I also have good days and then I take vitamin or supplement and I am fucked again. LOL
I am interested in Anavar now. Could not hurt to try I think.
I also have good days and then I take vitamin or supplement and I am fucked again. LOL
I am interested in Anavar now. Could not hurt to try I think.
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if you decide on another cycle try and get pre and post bloods too