Is it possible that PFS makes you less attractive to women?

[HerrFisch]

They sure as hell wouldn't take it in the 2010s when there are tons of warnings about possible emasculation side-effects all over the internet from guys like us who got ruined.

Well, not everybody does search the internet for warnings if their doc prescribes them something.
If you are sick, have no clue, get something prescribed, are you really searching the internet for how it works and what its side effects are? Thats 2% of people.

Its sad that even people with small problems like high urinary frequency get prescribed fin. So you cant say its about being "alpha" lol. They dont even know what it is /does.
And even though I know from reading this forum that its totally not worth it, I cant change their minds.
People do just tend to trust doctors more than you, maybe until they know better.

 

[Niles]

Who let this guy in here?

For real though... Just look at his post history - all negative, conspiracy, victim-mindset rubbish, and absolutely nothing having to do with improving health.

@pedal if you have nothing positive or productive to share, please stop posting and bringing this forum down. Before your next post, ask yourself "is this helpful?", and if the answer is no, please spare us.

 

[Aflac94]

@HerrFisch If you see a urologist for a urinary issue and you are over 40 or so they will put you on this. I shadowed a urologist and was blown away, it’s like Tylenol to a urologist. They give this and alpha blocker out like candy to anyone over 40. Shit ton of older guys must be on this. Maybe it does not have a bad an effect cause they already have hormones going down hill. BUT I’ve heard at least one story older guy getting started on this stuff and just destroyed his health. So I think probbaly it happens the same to them too. Maybe a lot just don’t realize it’s the pill , or blame their sides on getting old.

OR Maybe a lot of guys on it don’t crash because they NEVER come off. (We know crash is related to discontinuing). Drug shrinks their prostate, therefore helps their urinary symptoms and they just stay on for years, or the rest of their life, and they either don’t crash or it happens so long after they started taking it that they don’t associate the symptoms with the pill.

 

[jacknap]

Well luckily for me, under whatever pretense you serve as a rule-maker, I took neither.

I took an herbal supplement sold over the counter and it rocked my world. This kinda throws a wrench in your whole "Merck knew what they were doing and did this on purpose" conspiracy, as they didnt create my poison or create many other people's poisons.

But, fortunately - unlike you, I didnt give a shit about the politics of what happened to me, I only gave a shit about getting better. That's why I'm better today. Posts like these will NOT help you get anywhere. You are not ruined - also quit posting the word "permanent". Another horrible word to have in your vocabulary right now.

yeah saw p. I got pfs from RU58841 which was experimental topical due to dangers of ingesting hormonal blockers and still crashed LOL

don't think it's a conspiracy. men are really desperate to keep their hair and big pharma found drugs that kept it.

pfs imo is sorta like an allergic reaction. similar to other medications. for hundreds/thousands it's a god send but for our specific chemistry it produces an allergic reaction which is pfs.

modafinil for example why I've used before I crashed well works like a charm. gives me energy/focus/stress resiliece. but for 1 in 1000 they develop a fatal skin condition stephen johnsons syndrome and their skin literally falls out.

when my friends/girls asked why i don't wanna drink i now say i had an allergic reaction to a medication that i'm recovering from

 

[hopeforrecovery]

yeah saw p. I got pfs from RU58841 which was experimental topical due to dangers of ingesting hormonal blockers and still crashed LOL

don't think it's a conspiracy. men are really desperate to keep their hair and big pharma found drugs that kept it.

pfs imo is sorta like an allergic reaction. similar to other medications. for hundreds/thousands it's a god send but for our specific chemistry it produces an allergic reaction which is pfs.

modafinil for example why I've used before I crashed well works like a charm. gives me energy/focus/stress resiliece. but for 1 in 1000 they develop a fatal skin condition stephen johnsons syndrome and their skin literally falls out.

when my friends/girls asked why i don't wanna drink i now say i had an allergic reaction to a medication that i'm recovering from

That's interesting! Are you still dating and picking up girls?

 

[RebelWithACause]

yeah saw p. I got pfs from RU58841 which was experimental topical due to dangers of ingesting hormonal blockers and still crashed LOL

don't think it's a conspiracy. men are really desperate to keep their hair and big pharma found drugs that kept it.

pfs imo is sorta like an allergic reaction. similar to other medications. for hundreds/thousands it's a god send but for our specific chemistry it produces an allergic reaction which is pfs.

modafinil for example why I've used before I crashed well works like a charm. gives me energy/focus/stress resiliece. but for 1 in 1000 they develop a fatal skin condition stephen johnsons syndrome and their skin literally falls out.

when my friends/girls asked why i don't wanna drink i now say i had an allergic reaction to a medication that i'm recovering from

For me finasteride changed me from day 1. I got brainfog and social anxiety symptoms. This got better when I started ketogenic diet which increases GABA.

I have talked to other finasteride users and they also noticed brainfog and more social anxiety. Also people disrespecting me/them more.

Looking back on the whole experience I personally choose mental health above hair loss prevention.

I became meek and weak on finasteride. Bitchy, whiney. Plus sexually I could not function without ED drugs. And when I got off after two years the anxiety and depression got worse.

Most guys using finasteride want to stay in the bubble. I know I did. When someone would point out negative side effects from finasteride I would attack them and say it is bullshit. But deep from the inside I knew I was experiencing all those side effects. I just trained my mind to not care about them. I see this in other finasteride users too.

But eventually I missed my old self. My strong willed, confrontational and prideful self. I saw how much I lost myself when I went on a holiday with friends. I was a complete mess. I had lost myself completely. And I could not bear to live like that anymore.

That is when I decided to get off. And I am glad I did.

In the end I did it for women. And now I see how ridiculous it is. I do not care about women anymore. They come and go. It's not worth it ruining your health and life for women. I want to put something in the world that is useful.

 

[MNK99]

No longer ruined, no more than all the slobs drinking, eating, doing mind-numbing, soul-crushing work that the masses are. It isn't permanent, Pedal (most at least for many people). I've been thru way way too many things that seemed practically permanently damaging (swore I had serious brain damage post antidepressant (luckily it was untreatable, "permanent disorders" and side effects).

Merck didn't ruin me... Many have tried, they've all failed. In the end I'll get what's coming to me, but not until I have a lot of fun for every second lost.

"Alpha" this and alpha that.

If someone called me a beta in real life, they'll wish they had pfs, BC as I said I'm not ruined and there are people out there that deserve all that's happened to me, more than me. But I'm not gonna whine and call everyone a "fag" on the internet, because a actually manly (alpha, true, whatever stupid word one may use), at least tries to walk away from fights, and doesn't have anything to prove to anyone, except themself maybe and loved ones.

In a few years "Merck" will be like "Pfizer" to me... Conjures up resentment for a couple years, vague anger for a few more, and just a memory from the past in a couple more after that.

If someone ruined me, best believe you'd hear about it on tv, because unlike the average asshole, I'm very hard to kill (ruin, feminize, etc).


As a man, have to do whatever it takes to survive/get better / succeed /win or whatever it is others want to do.



If I cure all this shyt, I honestly think my second university was worse than pssd and PFS (minus suicidal and manic parts --- that was fucking horrendous), but sexual sides and less friends --- who gives a fuck, I'll work on meeting more women as I get better and already have... Friends lost? Weren't useful anyways.

I'll leave crying out for being ruined to the protestors who scream at me in genders studies classes (just joking but also that has happened).


I'll ruin a lot before I go. Can't kill me if I'm dead inside.

Just never let this kind of thing happen again, and you can't be ruined. In the end, life kills us all.



Also @pedal, I took it to offset other medical stuff that literally if true has and will ruin my life again (bad approach offsetting side effects with more drugs), I'm not some weak beta boy... Anyone who thinks this is funny or we are all ruined and we are not men and if they feel ruined, then everyone else must be too, is incorrect.


Coming from someone who hates pharma.


Ever had a gun to your head? I have... Immediately went to school after.

Ever wake up not knowing what happened 6/ the last 14 h and really most of the last month? I have... So how could these fuckos ruin me ?

 

[jacknap]

That's interesting! Are you still dating and picking up girls?

yeah my libido is close to normal now on cdnuts protocol but currently on cycle too. my sleep is still fucked at times though. last night especially.

 

[MNK99]

ALSO.... WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT "OPPOSITES ATTRACT". OK in some ways.
BUT THEN WOULD NOT I ONLY ATTRACT EXTREMELY SANE WOMEN?

-CLEARLY NOT TRUE. YA flirting.. like ... you can or they can like whoever they are attracted too.
-BUT I THINK it's more like: LIKE ATTRACTS LIKE. --- actually I know it is (for me at least).

AND ALSO FRIENDS AND FORMER FRDS KINDA JACKED UP TOO.

-ALTHOUGH have attracted many v nice and sweet girls. AND I am v nice and good (at times).
-BUT ALSO: NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL DIFFERENCE.

GOOD vs BAD... hard to say?

Understand?

In person I would make much more sense. SMOKE, SMOG broke or dislocated some stuff... it's all cool, will heal tomorrow. Sorry did not mean to caps locks.

AND ALSO IF I AM SUPER SANE (SO MUCH SO THAT IT APPEARS "CRAZY"), then women that are potential LTR dating partners are actually crazy, if "opps" attract.

It's just about looks, personality, sharing exp, meeting ppl, being interesting, taking risks, escalation, and random chance. Confidence, and having balls. and timing.
AND alcohol for a lot of ppl. Or whatever the hell made them loosen up and escalate and or have sex. And self investment and also investing in them... and being worth them taking a chance on you.


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HOW the hell would you even meet someone the exact opposite of you? ON OPPOSITES DAY?!
ALTHOUGH IF YOUZE AN ASSHOLE / DOUCHE maybe you'ze gotta be different.

AND ALSO IF YOU CHANGE EVERYDAY.... welll...... easier to meet all kinds of ppl, but then WHO THE HELL ARE YOU?!!!???!

-DATING WHEN YOU HAVE EXIT PLANS >ALL. ONLY IF YOU ARE SCARED TO COMMIT OR DONT LOVE YOURSELF ENUFF TO BELIEVE IN LONG TERM.
IM JUST KIDDING. YOU SHOULD SETTLE eventually (ideally).

 

[MNK99]

pedal said:

They sure as hell wouldn't take it in the 2010s when there are tons of warnings about possible emasculation side-effects all over the internet from guys like us who got ruined.

alll the other motherfuckers said its pretend those ppl are crazy (in med, online dermatologists on youtube, media, pharma, fam docs, pharmacists, bodybuilding forums, health forums, lol all idiots. NOW I CAN CUCK THEM ALL AGAIN.

not disc. ph nor spfs solvepfs, etc agn nor that. told em to come at me brah!!!!!!!!