Jack17 log ( Ella/RU/Progesterone and Anavar)

[Helen]

@Jack17 if you take dexa along with b1 , you might hit the receptor really hard.

Since when you take dexa body will downregulate the axis. And if you take b1 , cortisol will stay higher. So the body will have to downregulate the receptor harder.

I am doing this with one of the guys who is on dexa now


NADPH b1 raises cortisol. SO on top of it, you take dexa. . I think licorice root with B1 , also might be the way to do this.

 

[Jack17]

I’m not at all suggesting this but I’m just mentioning it bc I’ve thought it. I was taking avodart and in the past I actually felt good on it. It always increased libido and lost couple pounds but over time I would always just quit around Christmas for no reason other than I thought s

dexa has half life up to 72 hours. FYI SO if you take 4mg , you will have higher dexa levels end of week then if you take o.5 a day.

But I think it is good to have a nice higher pulse curve like you are doing for receptor downregulation.

Right. Good point. Maybe 2mg every other week. I’ll try Vit B1 too. Good thought!

 

[Jack17]

I’m not at all suggesting this but I’m just mentioning it bc I’ve thought it. I was taking avodart and in the past I actually felt good on it. It always increased libido and lost couple pounds but over time I would always just quit around Christmas for no reason other than I thought Continued suppression of the pathway might be bad. Little did I know!
Anyway the point is, has anyone ever tried avodart that had been on propecia? Last December I was getting worried about my hair and sometimes I think we all can make stupid decisions, so I mixed one avodart tab in a bottle of minoxidil and used it once. I actually thought I felt better. I waited another week before trying it again. After the third time I wa getting serious concerns it could make me worse so I stopped. The question is if there could be any minuscule amount that could benefit like previously. I say that because for 15 years I always felt it was like good, hair more libido. Body fat loss. These are just random thoughts and I’m no way recommending it

 

[Niles]

I took really high dose of b1) 2-3 gm a day ) for a week and then went off.

Has anyone else with PFS on HS taken b1 in such high doses?

 

[Helen]

I’m not at all suggesting this but I’m just mentioning it bc I’ve thought it. I was taking avodart and in the past I actually felt good on it. It always increased libido and lost couple pounds but over time I would always just quit around Christmas for no reason other than I thought Continued suppression of the pathway might be bad. Little did I know!
Anyway the point is, has anyone ever tried avodart that had been on propecia? Last December I was getting worried about my hair and sometimes I think we all can make stupid decisions, so I mixed one avodart tab in a bottle of minoxidil and used it once. I actually thought I felt better. I waited another week before trying it again. After the third time I wa getting serious concerns it could make me worse so I stopped. The question is if there could be any minuscule amount that could benefit like previously. I say that because for 15 years I always felt it was like good, hair more libido. Body fat loss. These are just random thoughts and I’m no way recommending it

I also felt good when my DHT was lower. I felt great on fin myself, if my dosage was right. My dht was always high and when I would go on fin , I would get better hair better libido better everything.

Duta is good if you wanted to upregulate AR.

Yes people went on duta after propecia, you can find stories on propeciahelp. Some of them crashed worse than propecia, with total loss of emotions that duta does.

I think some people got better from duta. It all depends on body chemistry.

Beware that duta has some serious half life))

 

[Helen]

Has anyone else with PFS on HS taken b1 in such high doses?

Orion took these kinds of dosages I think, plus Boris took 500-1000 I think and felt much better on it.

Parkinsons people take 4gm a day.

 

[Pedro melo]

I also felt good when my DHT was lower. I felt great on fin myself, if my dosage was right. My dht was always high and when I would go on fin , I would get better hair better libido better everything.

Duta is good if you wanted to upregulate AR.

Yes people went on duta after propecia, you can find stories on propeciahelp. Some of them crashed worse than propecia, with total loss of emotions that duta does.

I think some people got better from duta. It all depends on body chemistry.

Beware that duta has some serious half life))

I thought fin made you shed more... Is it possible that de take fin again AMD feel better?

 

[brix]

Orion took these kinds of dosages I think, plus Boris took 500-1000 I think and felt much better on it.

Parkinsons people take 4gm a day.

I thought @Boris had high cortisol already. Wouldn’t this make him feel worse?

 

[Jack17]

I took really high dose of b1) 2-3 gm a day ) for a week and then went off.

Just took 1gm of Vit B1. thought I would do for 5-6 days and stop until next Decadron dose.

Separate question for you. Didn't you originally put up the high dose Clomid protocol? It definitely worked for about a one. I've always thought about repeating it. But it didn't stick so.... I actually had good mood and lost couple pounds with out trying. I thought it was the protocol for Deca d*** which is like PFS, isn't it?? People recover from Deca. Could we learn more about that? I can't find much on internet.

 

[Orion]

Orion took these kinds of dosages I think, plus Boris took 500-1000 I think and felt much better on it.

Parkinsons people take 4gm a day.

I took 1600mg for a few weeks, then switched to high dose B2. B2 at 1000mg helped me alot more, I keep B1 at around 300mg-600mg a day.

Started a longer water fast last Monday, currently taking B1 B2 and Bcomplex at lower doses with electrolytes.

 

[Helen]

I took 1600mg for a few weeks, then switched to high dose B2. B2 at 1000mg helped me alot more, I keep B1 at around 300mg-600mg a day.

Started a longer water fast last Monday, currently taking B1 B2 and Bcomplex at lower doses with electrolytes.

I understand, you are on electrolyte protocol. It is the mixture of electrolytes and bs minerals aminos that helps. since I gave just Bs to people and they got worse

YEs, some people do better on B1 and some on b2.

I also went b1 first an then b2 to lower b1


You should not emphasize Bs. b1 and b2 will cause crash in people in every single case. since they will just kill b5 and b12 and folic , etc

You are taking all of these. they all work together

b5 makes BILE acids at the stage where detox is going.

nadph makes bile before that.

SO if you have to much b1 and b2 but not b5, you will get stuck with toxic bile acids

 

[wuf]

@Jack17 https://hackstasis.com/threads/accutane-recoveries-using-finasteride.119/page-2#post-1769


@wuf is taking dexamethasone as a part of his ulcerative colitis treatment and we discussed this about 2 weeks ago with him . He said he felt good libido and erections and was tapering,

He was given 60mg so high doses

I hope he responds here and gives us an update

I have 2 other people doing dexa cycles now.

I am tapering 5MG each 5 days…(hope this is a good way to go).
I am still feeling good at the moment, but I can say:
At 60mg it was impossible to sleep at all, it was like if I was doing 4Grams of cocaine, my mind was nervous, on the high way aand Always active.
Since I am tapring, I am feeling more fatigued and less active.
About erections/libido, it is still there but sensations has changed since I was at 60mg...
..I think it is too early to say anything since I am still playing with steroids and everything can happen.
I have 20 days more to go till going to zero mg.
@Helen do you think I should boost my cortisol for example with licorice or B1 since tapering corticoseroids could leave me with a shut
down?

 

[Helen]

@wuf no man, just taper off and see where you are.

 

[wuf]

@wuf no man, just taper off and see where you are.

Yes, that is my opinion as well… this is what i will do.
10 days ago I tried licorice, just 1/4 teaspoon, I think I didnt tollerate it and crashed… so yes, I will stay clean till I am off this.
Thank you.

 

[Jack17]

I am tapering 5MG each 5 days…(hope this is a good way to go).
I am still feeling good at the moment, but I can say:
At 60mg it was impossible to sleep at all, it was like if I was doing 4Grams of cocaine, my mind was nervous, on the high way aand Always active.
Since I am tapring, I am feeling more fatigued and less active.
About erections/libido, it is still there but sensations has changed since I was at 60mg...
..I think it is too early to say anything since I am still playing with steroids and everything can happen.
I have 20 days more to go till going to zero mg.
@Helen do you think I should boost my cortisol for example with licorice or B1 since tapering corticoseroids could leave me with a shut
down?

What happened with libido/ erections with your Prednisone course?

 

[Jack17]

Update:
To clarify I actually took Dexa 2mg on Friday to see how it effected me. I had very strong MW. Genitals felt warmer and bigger. I took 4mg on Saturday because I thought this trial should be at higher Dexa dose if I am going to do a pulse dose regimen. I had very strong MW Sunday morning too. No significant MW this morning. No increase in libido and most likely a decrease but probably expected. Otherwise I feel fine, maybe even a little more relaxed and that seems surprising. I haven't gained wt with this. No change in hunger.

 

[wuf]

What happened with libido/ erections with your Prednisone course?

Since I was at high dosage both went up.
Don’t play with hormones homie!

 

[Jack17]

Update: I am 4 days post Dexamethasone 6mg. Been feeling more calm than usual. Sleep is fine. I've been in a slightly better mood and stressful issues at work and home don't seem to bother me as much. No change in weight or hunger. Maybe more scalp itch. Definitely a dramatic increase in body odor! Libido maybe slightly increased. Difficult to test this as currently fighting with my wife. All our fights have to do with PFS! This shit wrecks your life!

 

[RebelWithACause]

Update: I am 4 days post Dexamethasone 6mg. Been feeling more calm than usual. Sleep is fine. I've been in a slightly better mood and stressful issues at work and home don't seem to bother me as much. No change in weight or hunger. Maybe more scalp itch. Definitely a dramatic increase in body odor! Libido maybe slightly increased. Difficult to test this as currently fighting with my wife. All our fights have to do with PFS! This shit wrecks your life!

Handling a woman is annoying in general. With PFS it is hard mode. Just keep trucking. Health is #1. You'll get through it.

 

[Trump_1776]

Update: I am 4 days post Dexamethasone 6mg. Been feeling more calm than usual. Sleep is fine. I've been in a slightly better mood and stressful issues at work and home don't seem to bother me as much. No change in weight or hunger. Maybe more scalp itch. Definitely a dramatic increase in body odor! Libido maybe slightly increased. Difficult to test this as currently fighting with my wife. All our fights have to do with PFS! This shit wrecks your life!

Should have never taught them to read!

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