Jamie's log - fast oxidation, PE, TE
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I do not do this protocol any longer. I does not seem to be solution in my case. While I was on it something was helping me for some time, but I don't know what. However I don't know why but the effect subsided. I have no longer problem with oily skin and raging libido but still experience the effect of high ft3 - cannot workout, because I got tired and hungry, muscle weakness, PE lower but still is.
Hairs are thinning and on bad days on the top their are just like half of thickness of what they should be and on the whole head they got colorless- it is weird that it can change up and down in the time of one day. Now I also found out that I have less body hair than 2 years ago. I had lots of hairs on my legs that it was even annoying now they are way shorter, thinner.
Our case seems to be the problem with that high conversion from ft4 to ft3. I started doing what @mattyb said and try to lower selenium intake from foods. It seems to slow me a bit.
Maybe we should find something that lowers deiodinase D2. I do remember that somewhere someone was mentioning iopanoic acid aka ia, but I could not find this as 'ia' is f*** too short for that browser. I asked about it but no one answered.
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I thought of a few other things for you as well.
I think glycine or collagen hydrosalate would be very effective in slowing you down and keeping hair alive. If metabolism is upregulated crazy high glycine will be getting used up like crazy. Glycine is an inhibitor AA as well.
Green tea could be helpful as well, especially if you get the non-caffeinated kind. I did manage to find some animal research showing that it lowered T3 levels via inhibition of D1 (they never tested D2).
And don't forget the rec'd calcium/vitamin d/vitamin k2. This will put calcium into the cells and slow you down, hopefully. I also rec'd lowering vitamin A, selenium, and cysteine-rich foods.
I think glycine or collagen hydrosalate would be very effective in slowing you down and keeping hair alive. If metabolism is upregulated crazy high glycine will be getting used up like crazy. Glycine is an inhibitor AA as well.
Green tea could be helpful as well, especially if you get the non-caffeinated kind. I did manage to find some animal research showing that it lowered T3 levels via inhibition of D1 (they never tested D2).
And don't forget the rec'd calcium/vitamin d/vitamin k2. This will put calcium into the cells and slow you down, hopefully. I also rec'd lowering vitamin A, selenium, and cysteine-rich foods.
I am taking now glycine, calcium, magnesium, vitamin d, k2, E and lowered intake of selenium, vit A from foods. Since then I did not have a "hunger rage" and sleep is far better. It definitely goes in a good way. I will try to add some non-caffeinated green tea
no, what could levels of rt3 mean?
no, I am not pfs
more or less at the same time I started to take it when I made this hairtest. It was maybe like one week before a hairtest I started to supp magnesium and calcium.
I started shedding 2 years ago after acute, long distress. And after that it seemed that I recovered but half a year later it started to speed up. And since few months it started to speed up really hard
thanks, they are just normal 36,6-36.8 C
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I think you have high RT3/ So resistance to thyroid hormones. this can make you experience both hypo and hypersymptoms at the same time. this is why TSH is high .
This could be because of potassium iron glutathione problems. Glutathione is cysteine plus glycine. Mattys recs are fine here I think. Glycine will lower cysteine and selenium by combining with them in GPX peroxidase this will lower peroxide and will lower RT3. and lower D1 activity. So end effect will be lower free t3, lower RT3. This will lower your TSH.
This could be because of potassium iron glutathione problems. Glutathione is cysteine plus glycine. Mattys recs are fine here I think. Glycine will lower cysteine and selenium by combining with them in GPX peroxidase this will lower peroxide and will lower RT3. and lower D1 activity. So end effect will be lower free t3, lower RT3. This will lower your TSH.
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Glycine is an inhibitory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system, especially in the spinal cord, brainstem, and retina. When glycine receptors are activated, chloride enters the neuron via ionotropic receptors, causing an Inhibitory postsynaptic potential (IPSP). Strychnine is a strong antagonist at ionotropic glycine receptors, whereas bicuculline is a weak one. Glycine is a required co-agonist along with glutamate for NMDA receptors. In contrast to the inhibitory role of glycine in the spinal cord, this behaviour is facilitated at the (NMDA) glutamatergic receptors which are excitatory.[20] The LD50 of glycine is 7930 mg/kg in rats (oral),[21] and it usually causes death by hyperexcitability.
This is why chloride is so important. and that is why PFS people @TubZy felt terrible on gelatin . Since without chloride glycine is only excitatory
And now after chloride and electrolytes potassium back to normal, he can tolerate gelatin
Before when I gave some people glycine in PFS some had epilepsy and trips. With HCL and potassium it never happened.
Glycine is an inhibitory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system, especially in the spinal cord, brainstem, and retina. When glycine receptors are activated, chloride enters the neuron via ionotropic receptors, causing an Inhibitory postsynaptic potential (IPSP). Strychnine is a strong antagonist at ionotropic glycine receptors, whereas bicuculline is a weak one. Glycine is a required co-agonist along with glutamate for NMDA receptors. In contrast to the inhibitory role of glycine in the spinal cord, this behaviour is facilitated at the (NMDA) glutamatergic receptors which are excitatory.[20] The LD50 of glycine is 7930 mg/kg in rats (oral),[21] and it usually causes death by hyperexcitability.
This is why chloride is so important. and that is why PFS people @TubZy felt terrible on gelatin . Since without chloride glycine is only excitatory
And now after chloride and electrolytes potassium back to normal, he can tolerate gelatin
Before when I gave some people glycine in PFS some had epilepsy and trips. With HCL and potassium it never happened.
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