JoeKool's RU Log

[joekool]

I'm hoping this doesn't become too scattered as I'm trying to piece together my experience with RU since some updates were lost on another forum, the name of which we don't speak of...

Day 1 9/22 thru Day 3 9/24 - 25Mgs RU Each Day - No noticeable effects
Day 4 9/25 thru Day 9 9/30 - 50Mgs RU Each Day

It was this period I began to experience positive effects. Small spurts of libido. Clearer thinking. Genitals hanging lower than normal (A PFS side effect of mine is tight genitals)

Others noticed , myself included, music was better... as if it was hitting a euphoric button...

However, towards day 8 & 9, I noticed some pain in my neck which was joint related and had low level headache... very likely cortisol response here...

Though on Oct 1st, I awoke with the best morning erection I had in a while... so I decided to stop RU and coast from here... taking nothing...

Oct 2nd thru the 4th, I abstained from any supplements but continued to feel better. Decent mindfulness, decent sleep, decent morning erection... Though I began to experience the headache again so Oct 5th thru Oct 7th, I took a single pill named Diesel Test Hardcore. I used to take 1 in the mornings for ages (easily a decade, skipping Sundays) because it is a natural test booster which I can attest to, truly showed signs of improving things back when I was healthy... Today, Oct 7th... I still feel decent and hit the gym twice this week.. that's 2 more times in a week than I've been in a while... having no good energy or desire prior to RU...

I truly wish I had more of my old information and will try to update this regularly... Of course I'll answer any questions as I believe my RU cycle, as of this writing, appears to be a success in terms of improving baseline. There's more evidence that a dopamine agonist may be the proper way to come off an RU cycle similar to PCT of a steroid cycle...

 

[Helen]

Nice Joe. hopefully it will keep increasing. did you take cabergoline with it?

How many days were you off RU?

It looks like RU is not out of your system yet. you stopped on the 1st.

 

[joekool]

I took pramipexole today. .25mgs just to see.

I feel decent, though tired but that's normal. Still hit the gym tho.

Thank you for being active here. We're on to something...
[mention]gbolduev[/mention] thank you

 

[joekool]

I do want to update. I am feeling decent. Small libido but I notice it. I'm using 1 diesel test hardcore pill. 4 days so far.

I also tried .25mg prami yesterday and today.

I'm hanging normal.

 

[aztec]

I do want to update. I am feeling decent. Small libido but I notice it. I'm using 1 diesel test hardcore pill. 4 days so far.

I also tried .25mg prami yesterday and today.

I'm hanging normal.

Joe, do you feel the libido is connected to the ru 486 or the combination of the 3 things you are using? How is your mood?

 

[Jaxx]

I do want to update. I am feeling decent. Small libido but I notice it. I'm using 1 diesel test hardcore pill. 4 days so far.

I also tried .25mg prami yesterday and today.

I'm hanging normal.

Thanks for updating us, even if it is a small difference!

 

[joekool]

Right now, I'm only using two things. Diesel Test and pramipexole. I do think it's helping the libido. Prolactin is the worst

 

[joekool]

Quick update... I am feeling pretty good... I have clearer thinking... genitals hanging low and no pain... increase in libido seemingly daily...

.25mg prami nightly
1 diesel test morning
400 iu Vitamin E (Added yesterday )

 

[aztec]

Quick update... I am feeling pretty good... I have clearer thinking... genitals hanging low and no pain... increase in libido seemingly daily...

.25mg prami nightly
1 diesel test morning
400 iu Vitamin E (Added yesterday )

That is awesome Joe! Heal up well and keep updating us. This news makes my day.

 

[Snow1]

Nice work Joe! Results...

 

[joekool]

Been busy but good update. Another week of feeling decent. Bursts of libido but not out of the woods yet. I would say i feel better than i have yet post fin

 

[aztec]

Heck yeah Joe! That is positive news. Hope your libido skyrockets and you feel even better than pre-fin very soon. I missed hearing from you and I’m glad you are back.

 

[Snow1]

Nice one Joe! I was wondering how you were travelling. Have the headaches subsided for you?

 

[joekool]

Headaches and neck pain have subsided... I've always had it so I can't say that it was the RU.. but we're finding shorter cycles are best and likely won't ever deal with cortisol issues...

Nothing to report yet... nothing backwards at least... but no jump in libido... still only small bursts of it... better than nothing of course...

In terms of RU, i also found this quote "Even with RU the HPTA will be suppressed faster with Deca than with test. This is unavoidable. Progesterone is just more potent at suppressing the HPTA than estrogen is "

I had recently said to someone who knows of my situation, that I feel no worse than coming off a steroid cycle... now that quote i found means I may have been right on point... so it's not unheard to feel in this manner for a full month or so... but my equipment is working decently... just not like I used to be ... not just yet...

 

[joekool]

I seem to be 'turtling' again a couple times a day... especially if something gets me nervous... [mention]gbolduev[/mention]

I have started

800iu Vitamin E
500mg NAD
5mg Zinc, max 10mg Zinc
.1 mg copper, max .2mg
500mg Choline
25mg Pramipexole

Any ideas what would cause that? Adrenaline spikes? Cortisol spikes?

 

[joekool]

[mention]gbolduev[/mention] sorry to hassle but i'm really looking for some advice as to what could cause the tightening and turtling of my genitals... pretty painful but fortunately has been happening less and less... adrenaline ? any thing else?

You had said after RU to address symptoms as they come, this symptom was there post fin so I've had it... though it's getting less... but i don't know what to take to address this one... zinc?

 

[joekool]

Unfortunately nothing to report. I honestly feel Ru helped my brain, but not my libido or erection quality.

I can say my recovery is closer to 8 out of 10 as the genital issues seem less and less... But that's only because the bar was set so low at onset of my crash.

I never lost muscle mass. Had brain fog that has cleared. Still not a strong mind-penis connection but it does happen so I'm hopeful. Again, from zero and penile tissue changes to today's decent looking... But still experiencing some turtling at least twice a day. And libido maybe once a week briefly.

I'm prepared to give some time... As this is livable but another short RU or RAndro cycle is in my future.

 

[Goose12]

Unfortunately nothing to report. I honestly feel Ru helped my brain, but not my libido or erection quality.

I can say my recovery is closer to 8 out of 10 as the genital issues seem less and less... But that's only because the bar was set so low at onset of my crash.

I never lost muscle mass. Had brain fog that has cleared. Still not a strong mind-penis connection but it does happen so I'm hopeful. Again, from zero and penile tissue changes to today's decent looking... But still experiencing some turtling at least twice a day. And libido maybe once a week briefly.

I'm prepared to give some time... As this is livable but another short RU or RAndro cycle is in my future.

I used to get turtling even before saw palmetto, but it was very rare. It would sometimes occur when I was doing something that freaked me out. It happened a lot when I was younger and roofing. Usually when I was on an 8 pitch roof or more, I never have been a big fan of heights lol. I don't know if it was from cortisol or adrenaline but it never lasted long.

I know you mentioned something about experiencing genital pain from tightness. I never had tightness, I had the complete opposite, saggy, numb testicles. When I first crashed and my balls were extremely sore, testicle painting with nascent iodine helped a lot. It usually got rid of the pain completely.

If I was you I would run ru again at around 5 or 10mg for three days. One of my biggest benefits was dick sensitivity, which I didn't realize how bad off I was in that department until post RU. If ru doesn't work on getting my labido back I might try licorice root, or 4 andro to see if more estrogen helps.

Good luck

 

[5 alpha]

Unfortunately nothing to report. I honestly feel Ru helped my brain, but not my libido or erection quality.

I can say my recovery is closer to 8 out of 10 as the genital issues seem less and less... But that's only because the bar was set so low at onset of my crash.

I never lost muscle mass. Had brain fog that has cleared. Still not a strong mind-penis connection but it does happen so I'm hopeful. Again, from zero and penile tissue changes to today's decent looking... But still experiencing some turtling at least twice a day. And libido maybe once a week briefly.

I'm prepared to give some time... As this is livable but another short RU or RAndro cycle is in my future.

you did have improvements in turtling during and right after your RU cycle right?

hmm I deff don't want to be responsible for bad advice or a bad call but maybe another RU cycle but this time at 3 days only ?

when is the one month mark for you being off? I think I was two weeks behind you with starting mine so you should be about a month off right?

 

[joekool]

my last RU pill was Sept 30th... I'm game for a 50mg / 3 or 4 day cycle... I'm making my plans now... but Randro is in my future first...

I feel decent... RU helped my head... I can't recall , unfortunately, if my turtling was improved while on RU... I'm 99% I found the culprit in energy drinks .