Juicing

TubZy

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Hey guys,

I have been experimenting with juicing in my log if you noticed until I get my TEI results back. I wanted to open up a discussion thread for juicing particularly certain combinations and veggies and/or fruits. I think juicing gets a bad reputation since it is usually pushed by vegans. I'm currently juicing right now while also eating a high protein diet and definitely notice an increase in energy and overall being, skin etc.

This is not a protocol or a replacement for anything but more or less just a lifestyle change that can be supportive since it is loaded with raw electrolytes, minerals, vitamins, live enzymes (most important IMO) and it is predigested so even if your digestion is screwed up a large amount of the substances will still absorb since your body doesn't have to do any work to break it down. Currently, I have been juicing carrots, beets, spinach, apple, cucumber and I'm starting work back in celery again given its tremendous health benefits. The vegetables I started with mainly were derived from the electrolytes protocol. I think juicing overall can help with really any condition while not really being harmful per say (excluding juicing large amounts of veggies that contain goitrogens) including PFS and even immune issues. I haven't noticed anything negative about it so far although I'm still experimenting with different things.

You load up with all these electrolytes and minerals and force the body to take it in, but at the same time the body can regulate it unlike certain supplements. Since you are juicing foods everything stays in balance then you eat a high protein diet to get the aminos in. Since the foods you are juicing are raw and if you consume it right away you are most likely receiving 95%+ of the food value as to cooking where you would be losing many of the enzymes.

For example, many people here struggle with mono/EBV including me either from PFS or just from another preexisting issue where the immune system or metabolism weakened.

@Nina @mattyb

Apigenin, a flavonoid largely found in celery and parsley was shown to inhibit EBV specifically reactivation. The benefit of juicing in this scenario is you would be able to get loads of it since you can extract all of it out of the juice rather to be limited by the fiber content. This is just one example, but components in ginger do the same as well and grapes etc.
Inhibition of Epstein-Barr virus reactivation by the flavonoid apigenin

Anyways, I wanted this thread to be open for discussion in terms of studies, personal experiences, certain combinations etc. given that the feedback I have received so far was positive, worth making a bigger thread to talk about it.
 
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About 9 years ago, I developed some severe abdominal issues, went to docs and had blood, stool tests, CT scan and endoscope all negative. I started juicing after watching the documentary " fat, sick and nearly dead" (check it out!) I did a 1 week juice fast and then juiced daily for 6 months with food. I mainly used a combination of beets, swiss chard, carrots, apples occ lemon and ginger. I used this with bentonite clay (sonne #7) with psyllium daily and my issues resolved.
The juicer i used was
https://www.amazon.com/Omega-J8006-...ocphy=1013219&hvtargid=pla-273133836649&psc=1

Now I am in this post saw palmetto state and have dusted off the juicer and am on a 1 week juice fast with beets, celery, carrots, kale, chard and occ apple, ginger and lemon. doing 1 to 1.5 liters a day Its been a better week for me over all, I have remained on the potassium/B/C/E/vitamins and still use Mag at night to help with sleep. I feel better getting off the testosterone (been 10 days since my last shot).

Plans are to simply juice, stop all vitamins and go on a clean diet with protein/veggie, healthy fat for 4 weeks and then get TEI done.

After hours and hours of reading this forum and communicating with some great folks here. I believe we are the product of millions of years of evolution and our bodies have an incredible ability to heal provided we give it the opportunity to balance.
 

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Regarding ginger- I’ve been packing a lip with it lol. Chewing it up a lil but and storing in side of my mouth as one would do with chewing tobacco.

It feels strong. I’ve experienced sudden herxheimer reaction at times from this. Also have experienced just feeling generally better in many aspects. Really helps constipation for me too.

Considering doing same with turmeric.

I really like juicing. I’ve been doing it on and off since I started treatment 14 months ago or so. I took a long time period off from it but when I started treating Lyme again I began again late this past summer.

Juicing at times feels like TEI. Yesterday that was how I felt lol so many nutrients- I had to have about 80oz on the day and i was feeling that TEI herxheimer reaction feeling I get. Body is going to work on disease for me no other way to put it

It’s funny though, this herxheimer reaction I get with juicing ( I feel salt baths are a part of this) brings libido as well.

Coffee enemas aren’t causing shrinkage anymore, sensitivity better. Feel like a good combo for a lot of people would be juicing 50- 100 Oz daily + 4 or so Dead Sea baths weekly. Be active, eat good diet.
 

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I dont really juice because the place im living at currently doesnt have a juicer but still im really interested in juicing. I just eat the vegetables that i would juice normally like beets, spinach, broccoli, celery... With almost every meal and i get a lot of benefits.
Best "combos" for me are:

Beets + spinach + celery makes my veins pop up, get a lot of random erections, pumps in the gym are better. I get a really good NO reaction out of it.

Broccoli + carrots + parsley i get some detox reactions going without any herxing except some mild pimples on random places of body, its like i can almost feel them cleaning out my bowels.

I also started using ginger (thanks @bruschi11) but using it under the lip is too strong for me so i just make a tea out of it and if i get thirsty during a meal i just sip on it. Add some honey to it and oh maaann does it taste good. It feels really good once it gets down in the stomach and since ive started drinking the tea i get one more smaller bowel movement per day.
 

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@Boris Look up Breuss fast components. there are also radishes and potatos, and teas and many other components.

Radishes stimulate bile flow like crazy and detox liver. In arl I remember my fav supplement was gb3, with radishes in it.
 

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Ginger was ok, but when I juiced with it , I think it kept screwing up my flora and I had slight histamine reactions with it.
 

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@Boris Look up Breuss fast components. there are also radishes and potatos, and teas and many other components.

Radishes stimulate bile flow like crazy and detox liver. In arl I remember my fav supplement was gb3, with radishes in it.

The biotta breuss juice ingredients are: Beetroot Juice, Carrot Juice, Celery Juice, Potato Juice, Radish Juice or
  • 1 beet (55%)
  • 1 carrot (20%)
  • 1 celery stick (20%)
  • 1/2 potato (3%)
  • 1 radish (2%)

Below is what I found online for the juice and tea components for someone who had prostate cancer, maybe there is more teas IDK

Preparation of Juice 600g beetroot 200g carrots 200g celeriac 60g radish

Preferably prepare juice each day using a low speed juicer/ grinder to avoid degradation of juice. Adjust the amount of vegetables to give half a litre (500ml) of juice per day – the amount of juice may vary depending on the juicer and the vegetables.

The Herb Teas

Sage Tea - I used half a litre per day prepared by first boiling 2 bags of sage tea in half a litre of water for three minutes and then adding one bag each of peppermint tea, lemon balm tea and St. John’s wort tea and boiling for ten minutes. There was no restriction on the amount of sage tea to be consumed and there was encouragement to consume more.

Kidney Tea - Prepared by mixing: 15g horsetail, 10g stinging nettle, 8g knotgrass, 5g St. John’s wort. I used no more than one and a half cups prepared by placing one table spoon of kidney tea in half a cup hot water for ten minutes, straining to remove the leaves, setting aside the liquid, boiling the leaves in one cup of water for ten minutes and adding to the liquid that was set aside.

Cranesbill Tea - I used half a cup per day, prepared by allowing half a tablespoon of cranesbill root to steep in hot water for ten minutes (the herb could not be obtained).

Small Flowering Willow Herb Tea (for prostate cancer only) I used one cup per day prepared by allowing one tablespoon to steep for ten minutes in hot water. The following teas were available from local health food shops: Sage, Peppermint, Lemon Balm, St.John’s wort, and Stinging Nettle
 

TubZy

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Regarding ginger- I’ve been packing a lip with it lol. Chewing it up a lil but and storing in side of my mouth as one would do with chewing tobacco.

It feels strong. I’ve experienced sudden herxheimer reaction at times from this. Also have experienced just feeling generally better in many aspects. Really helps constipation for me too.

Considering doing same with turmeric.

I really like juicing. I’ve been doing it on and off since I started treatment 14 months ago or so. I took a long time period off from it but when I started treating Lyme again I began again late this past summer.

Juicing at times feels like TEI. Yesterday that was how I felt lol so many nutrients- I had to have about 80oz on the day and i was feeling that TEI herxheimer reaction feeling I get. Body is going to work on disease for me no other way to put it

It’s funny though, this herxheimer reaction I get with juicing ( I feel salt baths are a part of this) brings libido as well.

Coffee enemas aren’t causing shrinkage anymore, sensitivity better. Feel like a good combo for a lot of people would be juicing 50- 100 Oz daily + 4 or so Dead Sea baths weekly. Be active, eat good diet.

you def can get some weird detox symptoms for sure. I had it a few times in the beginning. Sauna will get rid of it quick though
 

TubZy

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@Boris Look up Breuss fast components. there are also radishes and potatos, and teas and many other components.

Radishes stimulate bile flow like crazy and detox liver. In arl I remember my fav supplement was gb3, with radishes in it.

Yes, potato juice is very good, never tried it yet. Radish I havent looked into yet but heard the taste was pretty tough Lol

I was looking into broccoli sprouts as well since they contain like 100x the sulfoorphane comapred to regular brocc.
 

TubZy

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Ginger was ok, but when I juiced with it , I think it kept screwing up my flora and I had slight histamine reactions with it.

You were using straight ginger juice? ginger you cant do much, i just use a small maybe 2 inch piece but its mixed in with lots of other stuff and I still even taste it strong. Havent had any detox reactions from it yet
 

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I tried onion juice one time in the beginning. I took two sips and felt like my stomach was on fire, Lol never again. Stuff is like unbearable

Yup lol so bad. I did radishes the other day for first time. Funny our girl H mentioned it.
 

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I tried onion juice one time in the beginning. I took two sips and felt like my stomach was on fire, Lol never again. Stuff is like unbearable
Chop up onions or garlic and mix it with Keefir so your stomach doesnt burn.