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manu

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It really is hard to take it for so long - about 9 days to go.

I'm very tired / exhausted on that stuff.
But there are pleasant experiences as well. For example on some days my sense of smell is extraordinary. I can smell things better than anytime in my life... and I saw some dark snut coming out of my nose... maybe it is clearing up stuff...

Usually I really enjoy traveling visiting new cities and places but on that stuff I'm exhausted all the time...
Can't wait until I am finished and my energy levels shoot up again.

I will ignore all the discussions on hair mineral analysis from now on... most people don't get it and they are using it wrong. And you can fuck up yourself with it.. what these guys do with Valence supplements is just insane...
Mineral balancing is not about bringing all the values in the middle of the chart lol.
It is not about chart manipulation. Insane idiots.

From that point of view I agree... Most people should not use it.


9 days to go and then I will relax for 2 months.
 

Yura

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It would be great if you did blood test for kidney/liver function how taxing it is on your organs.. If you are not exhausted from that and not from detoxing pathogens..
 

manu

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I stopped the SCRAM a few days earlier because I did not see it go anywhere.
First day without it felt weird. Similar to an ARL cycle.
But the day after I had a huge snap back. Energy is back, sense of smell better then ever and I am so relaxed (higher GABA)...
It is almost like my personality changed.
I am starting to think that maybe the benefits I get are from GABA upregulation. Since wormwood is a GABA antagonist (Helen talked about it).
Maybe it has nothing to do with parasites (although my eosinophils were definitely high on multiple blood tests).
So I have to watch very closely if this snap back is permanent or if it fades away after some time...
Besides that I can definitely feel my Na/K ratio is increased... which should indicate that infections are gone...
I will relax for two months without taking ANYTHING then to ARL hair test to see Na/K ratio.
 

Admiral

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I'm almost 1 month on mimosa pudica. It is a very interesting supplement. It basically is a gut scrubber:

There is this theory that you have to take anti-parasitic supplements for longer time (few months) because parasites lay eggs in all kind of places. So it is needed for a longer period to clear everything out.

I had taken 2x 2 tablets daily and I will increase it to 2x 3 and my plan is to take for the next 3-4months. After that I plan to do a scram cycle.

And after that I want to go back to ARL/TEI to fix terrain.
Did you take this and SCRAM together, @manu ? Looking for a parasite cleans myself.
 

Admiral

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No mimose pudica was completely separate... I even took a break in between I think...

For SCRAM I have followed the protocol in the picture in this post: Manu's Log
Thanks.

I see you reacted positive to both mimose pudica and SCRAM. Which would you say brought the most benefits?
 

manu

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Thanks.

I see you reacted positive to both mimose pudica and SCRAM. Which would you say brought the most benefits?
Definitely SCRAM.
I have got a lot of benefits which still hold.
Some immediate effects have worn off but there are 100% permanent benefits...
In a few weeks I will do an ARL hair test and I want to see if Na/K ratio has finally increased.
Even on ARL with 6x limcomin daily they could not bring it up... because of infections
So I figured I will try to tackle this directly...
I will decide then if I go back on ARL or run another SCRAM cycle.


Whatever good luck man! Great to see you back and keep us updated!
 

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@manu I wonder where is the line between taking copper to rise Na/K ratio and not taking copper. Like mine Na/K is 3.0 now. 6 sodium 2 potassium. On a first test sodium was 26 with potassium 2. So obviously they recommended only 80mg zinc with 12mg of manganese without limcomin so no copper. Second test when I dropped that those thyroid meds sodium crashed to 4. Potassium staid 2. So Na/K ratio dropped to 2.0. So they recommended limcom as well so 75mg zinc, 22mg manganese and 2.25mg of copper..
Now sodium jumped just from 4 to 6. Potassium still the same. So Na/K ratio is 3.0 So little higher than ideal 2.5.. The practitioner Luke recommended just 55mg zinc, 5mg manganese no copper Na/k supp with copper in it.. I wonder if it even matter if I take or don't take lets say 1-2mg of copper if my diet has 2-3mg of copper anyways.. Some people could have only 1mg of copper in a diet so if they take additional copper they will still end up the same as me with foods like buckwheat or mushrooms that give me easily 2 extra mg of copper.
Would you take any copper in my scenario or just zinc with some manganese?
 

manu

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@manu I wonder where is the line between taking copper to rise Na/K ratio and not taking copper. Like mine Na/K is 3.0 now. 6 sodium 2 potassium. On a first test sodium was 26 with potassium 2. So obviously they recommended only 80mg zinc with 12mg of manganese without limcomin so no copper. Second test when I dropped that those thyroid meds sodium crashed to 4. Potassium staid 2. So Na/K ratio dropped to 2.0. So they recommended limcom as well so 75mg zinc, 22mg manganese and 2.25mg of copper..
Now sodium jumped just from 4 to 6. Potassium still the same. So Na/K ratio is 3.0 So little higher than ideal 2.5.. The practitioner Luke recommended just 55mg zinc, 5mg manganese no copper Na/k supp with copper in it.. I wonder if it even matter if I take or don't take lets say 1-2mg of copper if my diet has 2-3mg of copper anyways.. Some people could have only 1mg of copper in a diet so if they take additional copper they will still end up the same as me with foods like buckwheat or mushrooms that give me easily 2 extra mg of copper.
Would you take any copper in my scenario or just zinc with some manganese?
Taking a hair test while on thyroid is a waste of money in my opinion.

I don't get what your goal is... clearly you don't believe in what Dr Eck has developed... so what is your approach?

Higher than recommended Na/K means you don't have infection problems usually if I remember correctly.

Let me tell you something which I have learned over many painful years almost a decade...
If you are in deep trouble health-wise then you need a methological approach. A little bit here... a little bit there... changing things up without any assumption... without any logical conclusion... it's a waste of time and you will run in circles your whole life...

Everything you do has to test an assumption. So if it fails and the assumption was wrong and you have to adapt the assumption. And you will never reason from the wrong assumption again.

If you don't have the mind for that then you have to put trust in someone / something and the assumption is that this will guide you to a better place e.g. ARL.
But it seems you don't want that either...

You are in between which is the worst position.
Take one side and commit!
 

Yura

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@manu "Taking a hair test while on thyroid is a waste of money in my opinion."
I listened A LOT of podcasts with all kinds of practitioners. NOT SINGLE ONE OF THEM said "yeah my clients go of thyroid meds all the time once they are balanced."
I tried that 2018 and I think be in that deep hypothyroid state damaged my body like crazy.
I never tested genetics, but due to lack of smell from birth and very late and light puberty I assume I have kallmann syndrome.
So who knows how many organ/hormone productions I have defective.
So I am not healthy person who simply needs to get balanced and will be 100%.
I was hypothyroid as long as I can remember as a kid. I have photos of myself where I am little kid and I can clearly see that hypothyroid face.
So to suggest me again to stop thyroid meds and believe that HTMA will fix me is like saying type I diabetes person stop insuline if you want to get balanced with HTMA..
Btw like I said I wanted to do ARL test with their report, but I learned after I paid for the test that I will get report of the practitioner and not from the ARL.
For sure I believe more ARL/TEI than some kid who understands like 10%
Anyways forget about it..
 

manu

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@manu "Taking a hair test while on thyroid is a waste of money in my opinion."
I listened A LOT of podcasts with all kinds of practitioners. NOT SINGLE ONE OF THEM said "yeah my clients go of thyroid meds all the time once they are balanced."
I tried that 2018 and I think be in that deep hypothyroid state damaged my body like crazy.
I never tested genetics, but due to lack of smell from birth and very late and light puberty I assume I have kallmann syndrome.
So who knows how many organ/hormone productions I have defective.
So I am not healthy person who simply needs to get balanced and will be 100%.
I was hypothyroid as long as I can remember as a kid. I have photos of myself where I am little kid and I can clearly see that hypothyroid face.
So to suggest me again to stop thyroid meds and believe that HTMA will fix me is like saying type I diabetes person stop insuline if you want to get balanced with HTMA..
Anyways forget about it..
I understand.
I had to take medication as well when I started (cortison/antihistamine for nasal polyps). I choose not to take it and only in absolute emergency cases I took it.
Not to influence hair test.
I sacrificed a lot. Believe me!

For you it might even more difficult.
And maybe it is not even possible.

It's just my point of view...


If so many people have improved while on thyroid... maybe it can work for you...
I really don't understand what those guys are doing. It goes completely against my understanding...

So you will run a few cycles on ARL/luke approach?
Or what is your plan?
 

Yura

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@manu you want compare cortisone/anti histamines to thyroid hormones that run everything in your body?
You can't be serious bro.. :)))
Anyways sorry for writing here. It is your log.
 

Admiral

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Manu; what are your benefits with HTMA?
 

manu

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Manu; what are your benefits with HTMA?
Oh man... ARL has pulled me out of a hole...

The biggest fix are brain fog and fatigue...
And this was severe in my case...

Everything else (nasal polyps, varicose veins, skin issues, anxiety ...) has improved a lot but is not fixed.

Anti-parasitic approach has improved those things even further... but it is not completely fixed.

But I will go back on the program soon. Maybe it will fix those things as well over time