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Nina , do you remember what kind of drugs they gave you during the surgery?

Only thing i know is i was fully out and woke up when it was done lol. I got morphine after that which was so strong for me i slept all day at the hospital. Then i had to give myself thrombosis injections at home everyday for 4 weeks.
 

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Only thing i know is i was fully out and woke up when it was done lol. I got morphine after that which was so strong for me i slept all day at the hospital. Then i had to give myself thrombosis injections at home everyday for 4 weeks.

do you have high homocysteine levels?
 

Nina

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do you have high homocysteine levels?

Don’t think i ever had those tested, i will check some files now i have some at home.
 

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No homocysteine test
 

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I had or have above range homocystein levels. What could that mean?

it means you are not converting it to cysteine, or you have impaired methylation.

Active b6 is needed to convert homocysteine to cysteine. This is why you need serine b2 and magnesium for that. to make active b6.
 

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@Nina when you tested folate in blood, was it folic acid or methylfolate which you tested in blood, since methylfolate is the usual form in blood.
 

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@Nina when you tested folate in blood, was it folic acid or methylfolate which you tested in blood, since methylfolate is the usual form in blood.

It was folic acid
 

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this is why if you dialate all your places with NO and niacin and clean out the gallbladder and Take very very hot baths all the time and oxygen oxygen oxygen, then the viral load will be gone.
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I’ve never heard you mentioning the hot bath thing but I just got out of one to read this post. I’ve read Lyme stories where people try to burn off the Lyme. And I did this pretty religiously weekly my first 3 months of healing.

Definitely something I’ll try to do more often. What about sauna? Could a hot dry sauna have similar actions as the hot bath?

@Nina and I must have some similar issues. I have EBV but not crazy high. My mycoplasma was crazy high.

My doctor looked at my recent bloods while on H2 and said it looked like a virus might be causing some havoc.
 

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Methylation issue: What kind of?
I also have very high Pyruvatkinase M2 levels. Tumor or inflammation?
 

Nina

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I’ve never heard you mentioning the hot bath thing but I just got out of one to read this post. I’ve read Lyme stories where people try to burn off the Lyme. And I did this pretty religiously weekly my first 3 months of healing.

Definitely something I’ll try to do more often. What about sauna? Could a hot dry sauna have similar actions as the hot bath?

@Nina and I must have some similar issues. I have EBV but not crazy high. My mycoplasma was crazy high.

My doctor looked at my recent bloods while on H2 and said it looked like a virus might be causing some havoc.

Hot showers make me pass out. My mom and brother shower on normal temp for them but when i use that temp i pass out in the shower. Baths are ok probably because you’re not standing up in them
 

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Maybe hot showers are killing the virus and it’s too much for your Brain to take? Horrible herx?
 

Nina

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Maybe hot showers are killing the virus and it’s too much for your Brain to take? Horrible herx?

I thought oxygen deprivation from the heat causing low blood pressure
 

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Matty, we know she has zero folic acid in blood. Without folic acid , body will piss out histidine, and this will kill hemoglobin .The Role of Histidine in the Anemia of Folate Deficiency So she wont carry oxygen into the cell.

Without restoring this, I think we cant restore oxygen supply into the cell.

Dont forget that without histidine there will be no B2 or active b6. Since the body will turn it off, this is why histidine retains calcium in the body, since histidine allows b6 to be converted to its active form and increase histamines. since HDC is run on active B6. this is done with zinc and b2. these 2 activate b6. And this B2 activates vitamin D at the time and this retains calcium. SO you see how it is all connected. Metabolism goes higher, boom everything converts D, K, calcium absorption rises.

I think we need to see if feeding histidine with folic acid restores everything in her.

Since usually this is a very usual imbalance especially in post operative cases. IF hemoglobin goes up to norm , on histidine and folic acid.

then we can test it again in a month. If it falls again. then we will know that she does have glutathione problem and there is constant hemolysis going on.

And then we will have to support B1 or b2. along with electrolytes so she does not get hemolysis. Also phosphorus will need to be supplied, since once we feed her b1 and b2 she can crash hard, since the body will take the phorpshorus like crazy into the cell ( like a refeed syndrome) to make NADP and NADPH.

And of course since metabolism will rise , we need to give calcium and vitamin D and boron, and magnesium .so the body can retain them / Since now it is just losing them.

I would assume NAC , vitamin D, vitamin K will be restored as soon as FAD system is back on. Since these all slow the oxidation rate. We can of course help to feed them also. but it can be just fed from amino acids and butter lets say, which is in electrolytes protocol

If you noticed her magnesium is low on the hairtest, without magnesium she cant make active b6 or b2, or b1. Since magnesium activates all these.

and thus activates vitamin D. You see her sodium is higher than magnesium. this means either crazy magnesium deficiency or this means that her MAOs are not working at all and thus she does not break down noradrenaline. Which may explain low folic acid and histidine. IN this case FAD would be a primary problem. or b1.


In reality she should go on electrolytes protocol . that what I would do, I would go on electrolytes. plus b vitamins take aminos , plus ozone , plus eat butter for fat solubles. and be restored


If histidine and folic acid restores her hemoglobin, then I think it will increase her metabolism and she will need all the slowing down things, fat solubles, calcium magnesiums etc.


It is so interconnected that to raise metabolism you need to support everything in my opinion.

Few months ago i tried high dose b1 to help with sugar metabolism. It was suggested on raypeatforum. B1 gives me crazy symptoms like insane histamine reactions and excessive sweating. It was NOT good
 

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@mattyb

We do have 2 choices here. if she restores on folic acid and histidine. or it is hemolytic anemia. and this means we need to restore glutathione so it protects the red blood cells from distruction.( in this case it is glutathione reductase, and g6pd that will need to be supported)

Also to get to NADPH, she would need iron, b2 b6. to make NAD. so we dont know her iron status. to get to active b2 and b6 , she would need magnesium. and transkelotase of course which is b1.

If the anemia is from hemolysis. then no matter what we do we will need to support hemoglobin components( folic acid b12 probably iron etc histidine ) . Since without that nothing will start up at all. She will have low oxygen delivery and the body will constantly take out the calcium from the cell. And will produce lactic acid. And the viral load wont go down. We need to start producing H202 and allow the body to get calcium inside of the cell so it kills the virus.

And we can support what you suggested with D, K, NAC. selenium . So we are supporting all the end products of FAD. the main end product of FAD is NAD. So nicotinamide also can be added.

IF you look at it this now. This is electrolytes protocol NOW. You see what I was taking about. Electrolytes protocol was created to support glutathione.

Virus is detoxed with glutathione so it puts pressure on it. This is why anti viral protocol is electrolytes protocol. which supports all glutathione components( cysteine, glycine, glutamine etc ) selenium and B vitamins, and electrolytes ( magnesium ) to converts B vitamins into active forms, and fat soluble vitamins in form of butter.

So if we add ozone to electrolytes protocol, this is a perfect anti viral protocol. I kind of hoped that hydrogen water would substitute the ozone. the jury is till out on that.

As you can see electrolytes protocol was created for this reason, I always wonder why people are not using it, they still want to take 2 things or 1 thing. and be done with it. But it is important to support the whole system , since you will run out of things in a heart beat , you feed b2 , you will go down on magnesium, you feed b1 go down on phosporus, feed cysteine, go down on iron. etc.

Why not feed everything to support the whole thing and thus you can do it for a long period of time without sides. https://hackstasis.com/threads/electrolyte-protocol-for-improved-health.523/
 
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Few months ago i tried high dose b1 to help with sugar metabolism. It was suggested on raypeatforum. B1 gives me crazy symptoms like insane histamine reactions and excessive sweating. It was NOT good

Nina, do you have jaundice? and have you tested bilirubin?
 

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1. Not sure it matters, but maybe the drugs were morphine + an antispasmodic/muscle relaxant + anasthesia. FOR NINA's ACL SURGERY? (NINA).

PLUS or MINUS some weak pain killers post surgery maybe? (I had hydrocodone and morphine tabs --- alll horrible for stomach and 3-4 of above for me).
2. Matty, Helen.... how rude! LOL. (regarding that guy's sig). Mean much? HAHA jk of course.

-super weak.. pre surgery, sister in law , mom and stuff thought i just went super anxious or was scared, but a lady helped me put my hoodie on and everything really weak,
anyway's carry on, nina. -it was cuz quit rite before. EVEN ASKED my surgeon plz send me to an endo... suspected PFS way before surgery (<2wks after quitting).
-moving on.
-all nurses and girls thought really sad or shy or something... and I KNEW NOT JUST pain from surgery.-weeks later, sometimes girls would come for delivery or random things, knocking... neighbors and kind of checked up on me, HAD ZERO IDEA what to say....... knew something horrifically wrong tho. I said.... its ok... but some knew it wasnt.
-remembering all kinds of things now. anyways.
 
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Helen

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1. Not sure it matters, but maybe the drugs were morphine + an antispasmodic/muscle relaxant + anasthesia. FOR NINA's ACL SURGERY?

PLUS or MINUS some weak pain killers post surgery maybe? (I had hydrocodone and morphine tabs --- alll horrible for stomach).
2. Matty, Helen.... how rude! LOL. (regarding that guy's sig). Mean much? HAHA jk of course.

-super weak.. pre surgery, sister in law , mom and stuff thought i just went super anxious or was scared, but a lady helped me put my hoodie on and everything really weak,
anyway's carry on, nina. -it was cuz quit rite before. EVEN ASKED my surgeon plz send me to an endo... suspected PFS way before surgery (<2wks after quitting).
-moving on.
-all nurses and girls thought really sad or shy or something... and I KNEW NOT JUST pain from surgery.-weeks later, sometimes girls would come for delivery or random things, knocking... neighbors and kind of checked up on me, HAD ZERO IDEA what to say....... knew something horrifically wrong tho. I said.... its ok... but some knew it wasnt.
-remembering all kinds of things now. anyways.


We love you man. Your sig is the best on the forum.
 

MNK99

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THANK YOU... BUT PLEASE MAKE ME SANER/"bbalanced-er".... DEFINITELY IMPROVEMENTS ==== NOT INSANITY/delusion rite?
I LOVE YOU TOO even tho you're like (genius but super hard to please) mature russian profs i've had. JUST KIDDING, don't yell at me. I love the rest of you on HS too (GAY!!!!).

i luv u too crying It s the rain
keep calm i love you 879


"I just can't quit youuuuuu!""""))) (Brokeback, homerotic, sensual horse movie).

I <3 uuuuu too.
 
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If the anemia is from hemolysis. then no matter what we do we will need to support hemoglobin components( folic acid b12 probably iron etc histidine ) . Since without that nothing will start up at all. She will have low oxygen delivery and the body will constantly take out the calcium from the cell. And will produce lactic acid.
if she restores on folic acid and histidine. or it is hemolytic anemia. and this means we need to restore glutathione so it protects the red blood cells from distruction.( in this case it is glutathione reductase, and g6pd that will need to be supported)


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