One Year today, and far from cured (PFS)

Kiwiii

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Ok how to eliminate pathogen ? Which test to make ?

Got results back

Total T 536 (280-800)
E2 139 pmol

Was done 4 day after injection
 
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Shadow

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Yes. But how you I do? Just stop it and die ?

Im just warning... And maybe using it can interfere with a possible recovery since SSRIs make a huge mess in our bodies.

Oh and please, when posting your blood tests, post the reference ranges too.
 

wuf

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Ok how to eliminate pathogen ? Which test to make ?

Got results back

Total T 536
E2 139 pmol

Was done 4 day after injection
First thing before all.
I would put my attention to get off SSRI as @dhadow is suggesting. It is like if you are using Finasteride or something that strong to mess you up. Don't play with that siht man!
 

Kiwiii

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First thing before all.
I would put my attention to get off SSRI as @dhadow is suggesting. It is like if you are using Finasteride or something that strong to mess you up. Don't play with that siht man!
That is not possible, as soon as i get off, panick attacks come back.
 

wuf

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That is not possible, as soon as i get off, panick attacks come back.
I have being dealing with panick attack for years after quitting finasteride. You will not die.
Use some batch flower, big amounts of them will help. Instead that siht you are using now that will kill you even more.
 

Canari

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In the past ten years, nothing worked for my panic attacks
What did you try?

My mother had spasmophilia after surgery of the thyroid, they removed a nodule and she went from hyper to hypo, and had a problem of balance with calcium and magnesium.
I also had some smuscle spasms that responded to Mg injections in the past, but now in hair test I have Mg ok, and potassium too low.

I think your spasmoplilia was a contrindication for the use of fin (that is where doctors mess up before prescribing) but also what you are dependent on now, but I understand that before going for the better, you have to go for the "less bad"!
 

Kiwiii

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Exactly. I tried Bach flowers, homeopathy, vitamin D (have vdr bsm polymorphism), calcium, lot of Mg and now trt

I have normal calcium and magnesium in blood.

Low pth, high co2, had high prog ( but was taking pregnenolone), low T, low LH, low fsh, low GH, high cortisol, high ACTH

I’m always thirsty and pee a lot
 

Canari

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I’m always thirsty and pee a lot
Loosing electrolytes... pee clear or normal or dark?
You were checked for diabetis?

Levels in blood can be normal, weather for minerals or for hormones, but it can be that they do not enter the cells and are of no use! When it happens with insuline, this is called insuline resistance, but you can be resistant to many things,, including cortisol when you have it high: thus the reason for us to use fasting!

Go to the hair test forum and check out what you can do, this will represent your tissues and not blood. There is also a new test that is hair bulb and gives levels of hormones and aminos.

Panick attacks come from feeling fear in a situation that does not need it. Fear comes from wanting to go away and escape a danger, even virus in you... But a lot of panick attack start years after a surgery (months or years, the time the nervous system manages the charge). It is commonly from a childhood surgery when the child is sent into anestesia in high fear, or when immobilised to put stiches on a wound. It is a blocked surge to go away. The panick attack is a compensatory way for your body to "release steam from the pressure cooker." So when you stop the meds, of course the pressure goes out again. The med is blocking the path way of the discharge. As this is physiological, normal mind or emotion oriented therapies do not work more than any homeo or bach. It has to be body oriented. Compare with the milk boiling. When we have a small saucepan we cannot stand the boiling in our blood without some "escape". Body therapies are aimed at increasing your saucepan, so that stress can build up more and you still feel same and not overwhelmed like milk spoiling over the borders! Does it make sense?
 

Canari

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And if you have low vitamine D like me who live in the sun, it means the body do it on purpuse to not up the levels of calcium, and it probably means you will have a hair test result with low potassium, which also makes muscle spasms. I have both calcium and Mg ok in my results, but potassium at the minimum, so sodium and copper.

btw, always eat salted to taste, your body knows how much sodium it needs. And you can try some electrolytes they sell for people who excercise. Same as they need replace what goes away in sweat, you need to replace what you pee!
 

bruschi11

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Exactly.....
When people refer to fight and flight, they all the time think about it being cause by a big guy such as a tiger!!! You get the same from micro pathogen. Just when your body feels a danger, that easy...

That is why, apart from eliminating the danger, you also need to be able to stand the activation, so that your body fights better.

Exactly- its not as easy as it sounds at all. Killing the pathogen isn't going to do everything. Killing pathogens can lead to other issues (excess ammonia and toxins). Ocne you mitigate pathogen load- you don't cure everything. Ammonia and toxins need to be removed, beneficial bacteria needs to be put back into the body. Beneficial bacteria (for me I use probiotic enemas), stomach acid (betaine HCL), herbals -so many things you can do at this point to keep disease from coming back.

What I am working on now is basically what this site is for- balancing the body to be the strongest it can be in order to fight disease. This comes with balancing minerals, regulating pathways, correcting oxidation and metabolic rate which have been distorted due to the pathogens actions (many love to feast on minerals and vitamins). Also for many of us here a ridiculous pharmaceutical medication messed up these pathways as well.
 

Canari

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Yes, and when you will add the balancing of the ANS, all the rest will be easier too, but this is not enough in the present science for people to see it, as this "organ" is overlooked as not being seen as an organ though it is.... And this organ gives orders to the others, as this is the one who makes it all work without you noticing anything! I don't know how I can make it understand.
 

Canari

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Clear urine. No diabete
How much potassium per day to supplement ? 600 mg?
Read about electrolyte on the forum, and more over it is indeed better to do the hair test.
At the moment I take potassium with other minerals in a vitamine c product that I had, as I have nothing else at hand in my small island!
Do not take any mineral alone on a long basis or high dosis, as this can imbalance you.

Really, take time on the forum, you cannot change this fast, we are all building the puzzle...
You have to know in what case you are, and unfortunately the information has been scattered because of impatience to heal.