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Shanks

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Orion said:
Post to keep track of daily supp intake and link to hair tests:

Post accutane: Two rounds, 10yrs apart
Issues to solve: Oily scalp/face, minor shedding, long deep sleep
Protocols: 3, 7, 10, 14 and 54 day fast completed
12 liver flushes completed (doing every 2 weeks)
NaCl:1g, KCl:1g, MgCl:1g,
Malic acid: 1.5g,
HCl 650mg each meal
ARL rec'd per day: Se:200mcg, Zn:50mg, Mn:10mg, Bo:3mg, Mo:125ug, Cr:400ug, I:450ug
Vitamin C: 1-2g, Vitamin E: 100iu,
B1: 400mg, B2: 400mg, B3: 250mg, B5: 500mg, B6: 50mg, Folate: 1000mcg, B12: 50mcg, Biotin: 50mcg
Aminos per day: 10 egg whites, Cysteine HCl: 1g, Histidine HCl: 1g, AAKG: 1g, Citrulline: 1g, Lysine HCl 1g, 3 scoops isolate whey


Hairtest 2016
Hairtest-03-2018
Hairtest-06-2018
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Hey Orion
Short question dude:
Do you take the vitamins over the day or the dosage above all at once? Same question for elektrolytes/minerals and aminos.
 
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Shanks said:
Hey Orion
Short question dude:
Do you take the vitamins over the day or the dosage above all at once? Same question for elektrolytes/minerals and aminos.
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Hey Shanks,
I take the bulk of the minerals, electrolytes in the morning for convenience. I split the aminos and B's with breakfast and dinner
 
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Finished 15th liver flush yesterday, this was the first time it made me feel quite ill overnight sleeping, woke up with cold sweat and mega ill during the night. Bowel movements the next day smelt like cooked liver, super disgusting, must have purged some toxic stuff, felt great all day flushing it all out.

Stopped all supps and ARL mins(3month cycle) this weekend as well, starting long water fast tomorrow.

Skin still improving, oiliness still reducing, libido great, hair shedding has stopped, starting to feel my positive self re-emerge from the shell that closed him up.

Everyting took a massive positive turn from high dose B2 with Bs, it has made more changes then any other supplement.
 
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Orion said:
Finished 15th liver flush yesterday, this was the first time it made me feel quite ill overnight sleeping, woke up with cold sweat and mega ill during the night. Bowel movements the next day smelt like cooked liver, super disgusting, must have purged some toxic stuff, felt great all day flushing it all out.

Stopped all supps and ARL mins(3month cycle) this weekend as well, starting long water fast tomorrow.

Skin still improving, oiliness still reducing, libido great, hair shedding has stopped, starting to feel my positive self re-emerge from the shell that closed him up.

Everyting took a massive positive turn from high dose B2 with Bs, it has made more changes then any other supplement.
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I’ve just started b2. Did you notice a detox reaction with it initially?
 
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Some more good stuff on B2 - riboflavin:

  • Essential to the production of energy from food in the form of ATP (adenosine triphosphate)
  • Active form is FAD (flavin adenine dinucleotide) FMH (flavin mononucleotide, also calledriboflavin 5’-phosphate) cofactors for oxidation-reduction reactions in energy production
  • FAD assists methylation reactions throughout body
  • Coenzymes derived from riboflavin are called flavins
  • Enzymes that use a flavin coenzymes are called flavoproteins
  • Flavins metabolize drugs and toxins
  • Low B2 can impair methylation reactions in the brain, which may present clinically as depression
  • Activates glutathione reductase, which regenerates the antioxidant glutathione
  • Key role in iron utilization
  • Aids in mobilization of ferritin from tissues; helpful for anemia
  • FAD is a cofactor for methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase (MTHFR) so for people who arehomozygous for 677C→T MTHFR gene, riboflavin may lower their homocysteine
  • Recycles folate into a usable methyl-donor form (converts 5,10-methylene TH4-folate to 5-methylTH4-folate)
  • People with 677C→T MTHFR gene tend to respond well to B2 therapy to lower blood pressure
  • Cofactor to xanthine oxidase, which synthesizes uric acid and aids in purine catabolism
  • Cofactor to pyridoxal 5’-phosphate oxidase, which converts vitamin B6 into its active form
  • Cofactor in the conversion of retinol (vitamin A) to retinoic acid
  • Cofactor to kynurenine mono-oxygenase, which converts tryptophan into niacin containing enzymesNAD and NADP
  • Cofactor to NAD(P):quinine oxidoreductase which aids in detoxification and chemoprevention
  • Cofactor to protoporphyrinogen oxidase which synthesizes hemoglobin
  • Cofactor to dihydrolipoyl dehydrogenase which aids energy metabolism
  • Cofactor to fatty acyl-CoA-dehygrogenase which aids in fatty acid oxidation
  • Cofactor to succinate dehydrogenase which is used in the Krebs cycle for energy production
  • Cofactor to NADH dehydrogenase (also called ubiquinone oxidoreductase) which functions inmitochondrial respiration
  • Cofactor to sphinganine oxidase which synthesizes sphingosine (component of nerve tissue)
  • Cofactor to monoamine oxidase which aids in metabolism of several neurotransmitters such asserotonin, melatonin, epinephrine and norepinephrine
  • Role in mitochondrial energy metabolism may explain its efficacy in migraine prophylaxis
  • Role in glutathione reductase implicates riboflavin deficiency in cataract formation
  • Minimizes pain associated with inflammation
  • Augments the antinociceptive (painkiller) effects of morphine
 
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SwaZ said:
Interesting read @Orion. Can you do one on b1 or other b's.
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Found these on various website, so no credit to me, just like that the info is compiled in quick read form

B1:
The active form of thiamine is thiamine pyrophosphate (TPP) which is essential for the conversion of pyruvate to acetyl CoA and Step 4 of the Kreb’s cycle. It is also essential for the conversion of glyceraldehyde-3-phosphate (one of the glycolysis intermediates) to ribose-3-phosphate.

  • Cofactor to over 24 enzymes
  • Essential to the production of energy from food in the form of ATP (adenosine triphosphate)
  • Cofactor to pyruvate dehydrogenase (for energy production in Krebs cycle)
  • Cofactor in the maintenance of myelin sheath (nerve cell insulator)
  • Activates membrane ion channels which affect nerve and muscle cell function
  • Cofactor to transketolase for fat, protein and carbohydrate metabolism
  • Cofactor to transketolase for synthesis of ribose for incorporation into DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid)and RNA
  • Cofactor to transketolase for synthesizing cellular NADPH (Nicotinamide Adenine DinucleotidePhosphate Hydrogen) used for fatty acid biosynthesis
  • Cofactor to 2-oxo-glucarate dehydrogenase (also called α-ketoglutarate dehydrogenase) whichmakes acetylcholine, gamma amino butyric acid (GABA) and glutamate
  • Cofactor to α-ketoglutarate dehydrogenase for mitochondrial energy production
  • Cofactor to branched chain ketoacid dehydrogenase for mitochondrial energy production
  • Cofactor in the hexose monophosphate shunt, an anabolic pathway used by certain cells
  • Cofactor to glucose metabolism, particularly in central nervous system
  • Cofactor in the mitochondrial respiratory chain
  • Deficiency impairs oxidative metabolism leading to increased pyruvate and lactate, which cancause vasodilation, retention of water and contribute to heart failure
  • Some cardiac medication decreases vitamin B1 uptake in myocytes (muscle cell)
  • Deficiency in children linked to delayed language development
  • Supplementation may benefit autistics
  • Supplementation may benefit inborn errors of metabolism of branched chain amino acids such as thiamin responsive branched chain ketoaciduria
  • Regulates intracellular p53 activity (a protein that protects against tumors)
  • Deficiency may cause serotonin depletion which can decrease pain threshold, decrease musclerepair enzymes (muscle soreness) and poor energy production (fatigue)
  • Key role in restorative sleep
  • Plays a role in acetylcholine production in the brain
  • Plays a role in nerve impulse conduction
  • Conversion of thiamin to biologically active form requires magnesium
  • Sulfites in food destroy vitamin B1
  • Excess alcohol inhibits activation of thiamine coenzymes
 
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Orion said:
I haven't stopped yet, taking NaCl MgCl KCl, is easy and super cheap.

Will be water fasting the month of Nov, so will use them during that. Then planning to use nothing but food in Dec, then new TEI hairtest in Jan.

Dec on just food will see where I am for baseline.

Right now though, it seems all my success is coming from B's and mainly the high dose B2.
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Just wondering how you take your electrolytes - do you just mix them in water and add a sweetener, then down them all at once in the morning? I think the sea minerals one that i'm taking doesn't have enough potassium.


Also when you do a liver flush, how many grams a day of malic acid do you you take?
Do you do it like 5 days of malic acid, then 6th day epsom salts, then 7th day olive oil? How do you do the epsom salts / olive oil?
Sorry if i asked you about the flush before I can't seem to find your response! I still havent done it, i need to get on it...
 
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m_arch said:
Just wondering how you take your electrolytes - do you just mix them in water and add a sweetener, then down them all at once in the morning? I think the sea minerals one that i'm taking doesn't have enough potassium.


Also when you do a liver flush, how many grams a day of malic acid do you you take?
Do you do it like 5 days of malic acid, then 6th day epsom salts, then 7th day olive oil? How do you do the epsom salts / olive oil?
Sorry if i asked you about the flush before I can't seem to find your response! I still havent done it, i need to get on it...
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I mix the electrolytes in water bottle, then take some with breakfast, lunch and dinner, much easier to get it down.

800mg malic acid every day

Here is the flush I follow, very easy and all planned out: Liver Gallbladder Flush

I have done 15, the are not fun really, but easier now that I have done it a bunch.
 
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Orion said:
I dont investigate very throughly, but still see some green stones(bile mash). I think I will go to at least 25 flushes (15 completed so far).
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Isn't it Dangerous to gett too far/keep pushing on doing it?
 
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Orion said:
Dont see how it could be dangerous, its just a large fat intake to induce your liver to purge bile.
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Maybe I am wrong but I remember I was reading it somewhere..but it is just a memory of a reading I had time ago. That's why I asked, but do not give credit to what I am saying cause I really do not know anything about it.
Maybe just give a read around the internet to prevent any danger.
 
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