PFS , ( GABA, ARs, DHT testosterone ) Mechanism of PFS continued.

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tallglass13 said:
NDt does not contain any active thyroid hormone, it contains thyroglobulin which stimulates your own thyroid to produce hormones okay.. It's better to take actual T3 and T4 if you want to be specific
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i have checked my thyroid on ultrasound and its ok!
but i will take some kind of thyroid just to follow the protocol anyways
now JQD says to take ERFA natural thyroid while on body building forums and here,i think @Helena told me to take T3 + test if i remember correct?
@tallglass13 so u think taking t3 + test might be better than taking natural thyroid + test right?

actually before i try test i will try clomid + t3 to prevent hpta shutdown via exogenous test so we will see how it goes
i also have shrunk testicles so the clomid might help there too if everything goes as it should
 
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Actually I responded pretty well to idea labs TyroMax, which is NDT... Along with test, I got good results okay.. I'm basing everything pretty much off of Howe manly I feel or if I get night time erections... I feel pretty good when taking low-dose test and thyroid... You won't get shut down unless you take way more than your body normally produces... Males only produce 7 mg a day at most... So anyone taking more than that is gambling
 
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This thread makes a lot of sense to me. Throughout this harrowing experience, I've clung to the fact that phosphatidylserine (gaba and allo boost) was the only thing I could say worked to help me with certainty. Still hopeful on TEI.

The other piece I always struggled with was how good I felt while on Fin. Almost as if I was more masculine while cutting my DHT.

This theory addresses the two, so it has my attention.
 
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tallglass13 said:
Like I said if you can afford it by one of each , really it's up to the individual how they feel... It's really trial and error.. I see benefits from both
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btw can u tell me how did u dose them?
1 drop t3 in the morning and ur done for the day or?
i can't find the half life of these liquids so idk how to dose them :mad:
 
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zadig777 said:
btw can u tell me how did u dose them?
1 drop t3 in the morning and ur done for the day or?
i can't find the half life of these liquids so idk how to dose them :mad:
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T3 is very tricky T4 is tricky as well, but T3 we make I believe a few micrograms every hour, but we have our thyroids and are thyroids are somewhat normal so we do not need to be dosing all day long as if we didn't have a thyroid. What you can do is take one drop and see how you react, you don't want to be over stimulated, T4 builds up in the system and then it could cause problems if you take too much so basically in my opinion if you want to mess with hormones you should only take the physiological level a person would normally make... Like I said it's trial-and-error experimentation but if you overdo thyroid if you can have palpitations and it adrenaline surge, and that could be dangerous so one drop at a time my friend...
 
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Boris said:
I agree, but you can also overdo T3 as well and you feel wired, over stimulated, get anxiety, become thin and flat etc all similar to what drinking tons of hydrogen did to a few of us. That was my main reasoning to mentioning T3 because if I overdid hydrogen it felt similar to when I overdid T3. All I'm saying is there could be a sweet spot and less is more basically, but we don't really know exactly what it does. Binding too much oxygen can be bad, I agree..
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I agree. My guess is that it is meant to be consumed once/twice a day. Where you get the internal benefits without looking like a crack addict. My face was so gaunt. @Helen said it can’t speed up metabolism, yet I went from a slow 2/3 to a fast three in one cycle. It sped everything up. I know that wasn’t everyone’s experience, but it certainly was mine
 
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Continuous Heal said:
This thread makes a lot of sense to me. Throughout this harrowing experience, I've clung to the fact that phosphatidylserine (gaba and allo boost) was the only thing I could say worked to help me with certainty. Still hopeful on TEI.

The other piece I always struggled with was how good I felt while on Fin. Almost as if I was more masculine while cutting my DHT.

This theory addresses the two, so it has my attention.
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And again, we are back to the question I always ponder. What if we went onto a topica finasteride, where only a small dose was going systemic? Could that help? And then we ween off?
 
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zadig777 said:
i think it will only make u worse
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Except that everything we are discussing here is bringing our bodies back into that environment so that it can adjust properly and fix itself. For whatever reason, we are stuck in our present state. The first time I quit Fin, I titrtated down..... no issues. Second time, quit cold turkey...... boom.
 
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hairsuit said:
And again, we are back to the question I always ponder. What if we went onto a topica finasteride, where only a small dose was going systemic? Could that help? And then we ween off?
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Does it exist a topical finasteride?
 
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hairsuit said:
Except that everything we are discussing here is bringing our bodies back into that environment so that it can adjust properly and fix itself. For whatever reason, we are stuck in our present state. The first time I quit Fin, I titrtated down..... no issues. Second time, quit cold turkey...... boom.
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Did you take finasteride twice?
I think there is not connection between the crash and cold turkey or tapering down.
I think it could happen in both cases
 
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wuf said:
Did you take finasteride twice?
I think there is not connection between the crash and cold turkey or tapering down.
I think it could happen in both cases
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You can't taper down finasteride, if i remember correctly
 
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There was a guy on Hackstasis who took finasteride already and he did not get better. I think he felt good for a few days and then felt like shit. I don't think he had any snapback.

@hairsuit I thought you were doing better on TEI

I think we need to give all the protocols time and stop jumping to different things. Unless someone is willing to test this in short term.

It is hard to be patient with the protocols but jumping to different things will slow things down more.

If there is someone new and not doing any existing protocol then he can do a new protocol so we have as much different protocols trying out.

I do think we can be critical of protocols if they don't work but to have a good picture we need to give it more time. For example people on TEI: 6 months.

If after 6 months you had zero improvements you can try a different protocol.
 
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the best protocol on solvepfs is
hydrocortisone
t3
clomid/trt

yet no one tried that protocol here :/
i will be trying this after my drugs arrive in a month or so...
 
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Best protocol on solve PFS was me yelling at everyone.
Someone said "Ban this prick",
I said I'll kill you all (them). Come and get me mothafuckas!!!!!!
 
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