PFS , ( GABA, ARs, DHT testosterone ) Mechanism of PFS continued.

[zadig777]

I think @bruschi11 or @Slayo did or something similar in the past? My apologies if I've misunderstood.

bruschi was on HC,T3 and TRT even before pfs got him im pretty shure
idk much about slayo though

 

[Ben123]

Doesnt taking thyroid up your bile and digestive juices and motility?
Helen's views on thyroid are completely opposite of RPs and Haiduts. And i feel some confusion on Boris aswell , this gonna be good.

 

[Helen]

@zadig777 can you go please and try test with thyroid already in your LOG. WE already ran it and we know that it works. I ran it many times for people ))

This thread is NOT about that. We are looking for a cure. not a crutch and all people saw in my first post is a testosteone and thyroid wtf))

I said and rec'd this for years as a stilt. Did this stilt cure JQD - no. He comes off and feels PFS. and that is after years of running this.

Will this stilt have problems long term- 110%


People should concentrate on stuff that cured people and not just put them into some windows. Like Cdnuts , he is cured. why ? since he suppressed freaking testosterone)) he ran r andro.


Walker is cured,. why? ran r andro)) LOL

These people take nothing now. yes they probably did not take care of all their health problems. but they got rid of sexual things.

and it is clear how they did it and why))

In this thread I just provided possible explanation why this happens, why these people got cured, and by which means.

 

[bruschi11]

the best protocol on solvepfs is
hydrocortisone
t3
clomid/trt

yet no one tried that protocol here :/
i will be trying this after my drugs arrive in a month or so...

It’s not the best protocol. It’s the one where a few guys were lucky (healthy) enough for it to work for them.

What we’re doing here doesn’t need luck or great health to begin with. You can go from 0 to 100 here. On these type of protocols you can can go from like 40-70. And yes cuz you have synthetic T in you and your dick works great, you’re telling everyone on forums “I’m 100%”.

But no, if you need synthetic hormones to make your dick 100, there’s no way your health is 100%.

I hope it works for you but again, the only true way out of this is health for those in CFS situations.

Also for the record, MCI (aka micboth or something?) who is one of a handful of guys for this to work on solve- needs to take an antidepressant with his TRT protocol. So of course he’s not 100% lol.

 

[bruschi11]

People should concentrate on stuff that cured people and not just put them into some windows. Like Cdnuts , he is cured. why ? since he suppressed freaking testosterone)) he ran r andro.


Walker is cured,. why? ran r andro)) LOL

These people take nothing now. yes they probably did not take care of all their health problems. but they got rid of sexual things.

and it is clear how they did it and why))

In this thread I just provided possible explanation why this happens, why these people got cured, and by which means.[/QUOTE]

These guys cleaned their body’s out too. We cannot forget that. Gotta prime yourself and be ready for it when you run these Andro cycles.

 

[Helen]

These guys cleaned their body’s out too. We cannot forget that. Gotta prime yourself and be ready for it when you run these Andro cycles.

bruschi , immune system is imparied, since your CB1 and opiod receptors are fucked.

those things are regulated by pregnenolone.

Stress does what? stress fucks CB1 receptor Canabinoid receptor )) you need to understand it.

Smoking pot does what? also fucks that receptor.

So trying to get healthy is a vague thing, you need to fix that receptor. activity so the body regulates immune system properly.

And killing bugs here and there with stuff does nothing IMO>

Kill them they just grow again.

TEI regulates all the body immune system everything. by minerals, it will regulate these receptors.


Or people can try to adjust them with pregnenolone. we need to read what is LOW in CSF))

 

[Helen]

@bruschi11 Repeated Stress Impairs Endocannabinoid Signaling in the Paraventricular Nucleus of the Hypothalamus read this carefully. these receptors regulate your immune system.

 

[Helen]

@Trump_1776 coming back to our yesterdays convo

DHEA inhibiits G6PD enzyme which produces NADPH. NADPH is what 5AR works on, so DHeA inhibits 5AR.


One more time for people Fin and testosterone also bind NADPH exactly the same.

only when testosterone binds NADPH- it makes DHT.

and when fin binds NADPH it makes NOTHING.

This is how fin by binding NADPH takes it away from testosterone and DHT is inhibited.

But also all other hormones are affected where NADPH was.


Pregnenolone, estradiol, cortisol, DHT. all these are made with NADPH.



this is why if you take testosteone boom many people feel crazy anxiety? why? because testosterone binds NADPH and there is less NADPH available for progesterone to bind NADHP and make allopregnenolone.


and when you take testosterone your LH goes down how? just because you take testosterone and it binds NADPH. and NADPH is what converts cholesterol into pregnenolone.

 

[zadig777]

@zadig777 can you go please and try test with thyroid already in your LOG. WE already ran it and we know that it works. I ran it many times for people ))

can u plz wait for my drugs to arrive??
i ordered on napsgear and i have to wait 1/2 months to arrive
im more impatient than u believe me...

 

[Helen]

when you go on TEI, they see this and they support NADPH synthesis. and you feel anxiety at first, less libido, since they push all those DHT estradiols, pregnenolones, and they are super senstive as it is. and then you have a snap back , when you quit the program and you are better.

But if you do just hormones, then you have to do all of them, and you better make sure you take all of them at teh same time, where NADPH was))

this is why TEI will be a cure and all these separate hormones, will just cure this and that, and may not even last

As I wrote as an example if
you take estrogen, your receptors does NOT downregulate just from taking estrogen,
but if you take estrogen and progesterone , both get downregulated

same as DHT and some other hormone.

this is why some person runs progesterone feel cured and then it comes back.

 

[bruschi11]

bruschi , immune system is imparied, since your CB1 and opiod receptors are fucked.

those things are regulated by pregnenolone.

Stress does what? stress fucks CB1 receptor Canabinoid receptor )) you need to understand it.

Smoking pot does what? also fucks that receptor.

So trying to get healthy is a vague thing, you need to fix that receptor. activity so the body regulates immune system properly.

And killing bugs here and there with stuff does nothing IMO>

Kill them they just grow again.

TEI regulates all the body immune system everything. by minerals, it will regulate these receptors.


Or people can try to adjust them with pregnenolone. we need to read what is LOW in CSF))

Interesting along with study you posted.

The word “clean” isn’t right word I completely agree. That’s exactly what myself and nutritionist Shawn Bean talked about last week during my appointment. We don’t want to “kill or detox” anymore. Done enough of that. Will be working on immune system modulation when refeed is done in a few weeks or so.

I guess word is “prime.” Prime yourself, be healthy enough for things like Andro. Like CD and Walker were.

I’ll probably give Andro a run within a few months if needed sexually before I run TEI again. What are it’s effects on cortisol?

 

[Helen]

@bruschi11 carefully read that study again. YOu see that CB1 receptors regulate CORTISOL receptors. CB1 controls all that shit

 

[Helen]

And now I wonder why more and more people get POIS. that forum just grows like crazy ))

since more of them smoke POT.

 

[Trump_1776]

Interesting along with study you posted.

The word “clean” isn’t right word I completely agree. That’s exactly what myself and nutritionist Shawn Bean talked about last week during my appointment. We don’t want to “kill or detox” anymore. Done enough of that. Will be working on immune system modulation when refeed is done in a few weeks or so.

I guess word is “prime.” Prime yourself, be healthy enough for things like Andro. Like CD and Walker were.

I’ll probably give Andro a run within a few months if needed sexually before I run TEI again. What are it’s effects on cortisol?

This is what @Helen and I were kinda discussing yesterday. Well more so me. I ts highly likely people need to condition the body to accept R andro, or DHT before starting it full blown.

 

[Helen]

More over, for those with high DHT. if you take low dose fin, like really low dose which will put your DHT into the middle, you will be cured from PFS.

but I still think it is dangerous. since you need to break down DHT, by glucorinadation and increase 3 adiol G, and not just bind NADPH with fin,

since NADPH is very important molecule.

And the hairloss problems is that DHT is not being broken down.

 

[Trump_1776]

bruschi , immune system is imparied, since your CB1 and opiod receptors are fucked.

those things are regulated by pregnenolone.

Stress does what? stress fucks CB1 receptor Canabinoid receptor )) you need to understand it.

Smoking pot does what? also fucks that receptor.

So trying to get healthy is a vague thing, you need to fix that receptor. activity so the body regulates immune system properly.

And killing bugs here and there with stuff does nothing IMO>

Kill them they just grow again.

TEI regulates all the body immune system everything. by minerals, it will regulate these receptors.


Or people can try to adjust them with pregnenolone. we need to read what is LOW in CSF))

Dude pot def. Fucked me up sexually too

 

[Admiral]

when you go on TEI, they see this and they support NADPH synthesis. and you feel anxiety at first, less libido, since they push all those DHT estradiols, pregnenolones, and they are super senstive as it is. and then you have a snap back , when you quit the program and you are better.

Not sure their program works and reads patients that way, though you are way more of an expert on it than I am. My experience with ARL and TEI is they just suggest their fast or slow oxidizer supplement, possible glandulars based on the adrenal and thyroid hormone ratio's and minerals to balance ratio's. How do they read NADPH synthesis and stuff like that? Honestly very interested

 

[Helen]

Dude pot def. Fucked me up sexually too

exactly, this is why I am saying that since people have so much pre history and did so much shit, ti is hard to get fixed by running some random hormones.

Everything need to be adressed.

Like if you like to booze, you need to adress opiod receptors.

Pot head, need to adress Cb1 receptors.

And so on. that is why system like TEI< can do it for all people.

and random people can try to cure themselves for years with zero results.

since it is simply hard for an average person to tke into account everything.

 

[Helen]

Not sure their program works and reads patients that way, though you are way more of an expert on it than I am. My experience with ARL and TEI is they just suggest their fast or slow oxidizer supplement, possible glandulars based on the adrenal and thyroid hormone ratio's and minerals to balance ratio's. How do they read NADPH synthesis and stuff like that? Honestly very interested

what are you talking about. they read your minerals.

Like to increae NADPH you need b vitamins and managnese.

those peopel know and take into account all interactions of glands. before doing their programs))

by your mineral balance they know what works how.

 

[Trump_1776]

exactly, this is why I am saying that since people have so much pre history and did so much shit, ti is hard to get fixed by running some random hormones.

Everything need to be adressed.

Like if you like to booze, you need to adress opiod receptors.

Pot head, need to adress Cb1 receptors.

And so on. that is why system like TEI< can do it for all people.

and random people can try to cure themselves for years with zero results.

since it is simply hard for an average person to tke into account everything.

Yeah but pot is also a 5ar inhibitor or has similar actions.

It's crazy this was years back but when I quit smoking pot, boom hairloss. Before that it was premium. Prime. I also noticed that when I quit my libido was shot. Took years to return. This is why I am running DHT soon after these successful r andro runs.