PFS , ( GABA, ARs, DHT testosterone ) Mechanism of PFS continued.

[RebelWithACause]

I agree with you. But I have been on ARL or atEI now since May. As I say, I got a lot of improvement from it. The one thing that will not fix itself is the sexual sides. That has been troubling. I’ll stick on this for infinity if it works, but I haven’t seen a resolution of sexual sides with this. That’s the question. How long to try it until I figure out something else.

It should fix everything. That is the idea.

I think you said in a previous post you were having sex three times a week and wanting it. Sounds better than ZERO libido - which is what a lot of people in PFS experience. If you were already at that state before ARL/TEI then you could say it did nothing in that department. Sexual sides means "not as high libido as before finasteride" I assume.

I feel you though it sucks not having solid libido. I think patience is key. Since you switched programs maybe this will take longer than if you did TEI from the start for example. They both push different things.

 

[Helen]

I agree with you. But I have been on ARL or atEI now since May. As I say, I got a lot of improvement from it. The one thing that will not fix itself is the sexual sides. That has been troubling. I’ll stick on this for infinity if it works, but I haven’t seen a resolution of sexual sides with this. That’s the question. How long to try it until I figure out something else.

I thought it fixed your sexual sides.

Arl does nothing.IMO in a year.

how many cycles of TEI you gone thru?

 

[Admiral]

What's the consensus on R-Andro around here? Seems like some were cured by it. Is it best suited for those with low or high hormonal output, or slow or fast oxidizers?

 

[Helen]

What's the consensus on R-Andro around here? Seems like some were cured by it. Is it best suited for those with low or high hormonal output, or slow or fast oxidizers?

try to raise your hormones if anything.

 

[Admiral]

Yeah, I am looking into a three week LDN period, followed by R-Andro and perhaps some herb cycling as a PCT if my current TEI cycle doesn't do much.

 

[hairsuit]

I thought it fixed your sexual sides.

Arl does nothing.IMO in a year.

how many cycles of TEI you gone thru?

I thought it had as well. Lasted for two weeks, then went right back to usual. Libido cycles around once every week. Bad PE. Everything else is great, I just can’t get my sexual stuff back. Just started my third cycle of TEI I believe

 

[hairsuit]

Not sure if this works. Finasteride has a flat dose response. 0.5mg and 1mg almost have the same effect in the body.

I do think higher dosage means you will build up more of the drug in the body (liver?). In that sense taper down could help.

All I know is it worked the first time for me. My hair doc had me space out doses and just take nibbles. Literally crumbs of Fin by the end. Does it with all his patients when they transition to topical finasteride( which is why I did it). Never had an issue. Second time around on the pill for two weeks only, quit cold turkey and that got me.

 

[Admiral]

I thought it had as well. Lasted for two weeks, then went right back to usual. Libido cycles around once every week. Bad PE. Everything else is great, I just can’t get my sexual stuff back. Just started my third cycle of TEI I believe

I had a period of about a month where my sexual sides improved a lot. Increased semen volume, nocturnal and morning woodies, but it ended as I nearly finished my 3rd ARL cycle. Haven't gotten any of those since. Weird, though.

 

[TubZy]

All I know is it worked the first time for me. My hair doc had me space out doses and just take nibbles. Literally crumbs of Fin by the end. Does it with all his patients when they transition to topical finasteride( which is why I did it). Never had an issue. Second time around on the pill for two weeks only, quit cold turkey and that got me.

You have done three TEI cycles(I assume 3 months?), how many restests did you get done during that period?

 

[Helen]

You have done three TEI cycles(I assume 3 months?), how many restests did you get done during that period?

I thought he is just on his second cycle of TEI. He started the first cycle in middle of october, so now he should have started his second cycle. just now recently?

@hairsuit

 

[hairsuit]

I thought he is just on his second cycle of TEI. He started the first cycle in middle of october, so now he should have started his second cycle. just now recently?

@hairsuit

@Boris on my third TEI cycle. Started in August, retested in October and started second cycle. Retested mid December, and have now started third cycle. There was a two month ARL cycle prior to August

 

[Helen]

@Boris on my third TEI cycle. Started in August, retested in October and started second cycle. Retested mid December, and have now started third cycle. There was a two month ARL cycle prior to August

I dont quite get , in your log you mention that you did not start TEI even on October 15. how can you do 3 cycles of TEI in 2 months?

https://hackstasis.com/threads/hairsuits-pfs-journey-hairtest-3-switching-to-tei.764/page-6

 

[hairsuit]

Good gracious. Sorry I’m crossing myself up. I was just looking at my dates of starting protocols and not which protocol. So, it was two rounds of ARL, now I am starting my second round TEI, not third. So two round of TEI, Two of ARL, over the last 7 mos. @Helen @Boris

 

[Helen]

Good gracious. Sorry I’m crossing myself up. I was just looking at my dates of starting protocols and not which protocol. So, it was two rounds of ARL, now I am starting my second round TEI, not third. So two round of TEI, Two of ARL, over the last 7 mos. @Helen @Boris

Go in your log, I need to ask you couple of questions. so you just finished first round of TEI, your test result is weird. can you please answer those questions that I asked. Thanks.

 

[Trump_1776]

Of course you can taper down. You lessen dose and space out over the course of a month. Your body has a chance to acclimate. If you’re going to quit, it’s how you should do it.

I agree, but remember those studies about how fin reduced DHT the same at 1mg as .1mg or something like that? That is what I mean - Like yeah of course taper down but theoretically speaking, you'd have to do some serious cutting to taper down from .1mg etc.

Here is an article that talks about it:

What is the Best Finasteride Dose for Hair Loss? 1mg? 0.5mg? 0.25mg? | Top Hair Loss Treatments

 

[hairsuit]

I agree, but remember those studies about how fin reduced DHT the same at 1mg as .1mg or something like that? That is what I mean - Like yeah of course taper down but theoretically speaking, you'd have to do some serious cutting to taper down from .1mg etc.

Here is an article that talks about it:

What is the Best Finasteride Dose for Hair Loss? 1mg? 0.5mg? 0.25mg? | Top Hair Loss Treatments

I know what you’re saying. I just know that’s what he’s done. That’s what I did first time around and was fine. Sure wish I’d done it second time around. I guess you could lick the pills?! Lol.

 

[Ingeno]

We can all conclude now that TEI is the only solution so far to fix most of our problems, unless your name is @Helen. All other routes require insane amount of knowledge about all the interactions of hormones, vitamins and minerals. Besides we don't even know all of them like TEI does, so even if we find out some alternative hormonal fix, it is not going to work for 99% the people because everyone is different and requires other combinations of hormones and maybe even other dosages. The only alternative that still sounds promising to me is urine therapy, but only with a somewhat clean liver and no toxic elements in your body, piss is the blueprint of your own body and contains hormones and minerals that might give you the correct snapbacks when cycled.

 

[SwaZ]

Great.
Il see if i can find some naltrexone here.
I know a young alcoholic guy who got a prescription for it a loong time ago so i might get in contact with him.

Cant believe i got pois from viagra but at the same time it kinda makes sense. Viagra plays around with INos if im correct and NO is also your immune system, im really hoping i can get some positive results from ldn since it does stuff to the immune system. Can anyone recomend a dosage and how long the cycle should be

Could ldn have also helped @IHateFin by preparing his body to anavar somehow?

 

[brix]

LDN didn’t do much for me or many others here when it was brought up about a year ago. Two days of positives then nothing. I used to smoke weed all day long and still didn’t help long term.

 

[SwaZ]

LDN didn’t do much for me or many others here when it was brought up about a year ago. Two days of positives then nothing. I used to smoke weed all day long and still didn’t help long term.

Maybe some people need the full dose? I think people who really abused drugs might benefit more from 50mg than from 4.5mg. Maybe after that they can take LDN to try and fix other issues as LDN does not do the same things as full dose.

All i was saying is maybe the ldn doesnt fix you on its own, but sort of preps your body for something else to fix you. Sort of like being the key to the door lock and then some other drug actually opens the door.

Im still going to try LDN regardless, if that doesnt work maybe a full dose will idk.