PFS since march 2016 - My hair results and plan moving forward

[Aflac94]

Took high dose B vitamins and potassium 1 gram.

According to Troy this supposed to make us feel worse initially, then a snap back after 3/4 weeks off the Potassium. However I looked and Niles seems to feel better on potassium.

**my question is should I stay on the high dose Bs and high dose potassium for how long? A few days then come off and wait for snap back? Or stay on for a few weeks?

***just re read my saved posts and I think Helen said to try loading potassium for a week, and then hope for a SnapBack effect due to this down regulating the angroden receptor (in those that had it up regulated by Fin)***
(I save posts to come back to by taking pictures of them , because otherwise then they are lost buried in some thread, wish there was a way to save posts (in order to come back to them) within the functionality of the website? Maybe there is and I don’t know it

Any reason to believe staying on longer will produce a better snap back. Or short trial is sufficient? Probably no one knows since we are trying this , but figured I’d ask

@Helen @Troy
@Niles

 

[bruschi11]

@Helen I have TEI supplements coming which appear to include high zinc, Mn, Vit C to get copper down? How many months do you think it takes to balance/reduce high copper levels like this?

Read @Raincoast log.

 

[Blue88]

If you take vit.d without k2 and Magnesium, ca goes high.

When I was taking vitamin D, I was also taking K2, magnesium and vitamin A. I dropped them all and calcium fell. I haven't added them back in and calcium has increased dramatically...

 

[noprop]

When I was taking vitamin D, I was also taking K2, magnesium and vitamin A. I dropped them all and calcium fell. I haven't added them back in and calcium has increased dramatically...

Helen wrote something yesterday re increasing ca levels at Nina's log. !

 

[Aflac94]

Took high dose B vitamins and potassium 1 gram.

Felt terrible Friday after the high dose Bs. Didn’t sleep that well Friday night , and so felt bad Saturday too.

Slept okay Saturday night.Felt normal Sunday (as in back to how I was feeling before Friday). Took 8grams kcl Sunday

 

[Aflac94]

I took 6 grams kcl with breakfast and 7 g at lunch . I have severe numbness in hands feet and face , I don’t feel good. Has anyone taking the high doses had this? How long till it resolves ? @Orion @Helen

This feels terrible, I think I’ll have to end the experiment

 

[Aflac94]

Chills, nausea, diarrhea too, yuck

 

[talkingant]

@Aflac94 bro you could have overdosed on potassium (aka acute hyperkalemia). If symptoms get worse, or if you notice heart palpitations or loss of consciousness, you should consider going to the emergency room. Please read these articles carefully and assess your situation:

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3402/jchimp.v1i4.7372

Sci-Hub | Fatal Hyperkalemia From Accidental Overdose of Potassium Chloride | 10.1001/jama.1978.03290130033008

 

[Aflac94]

Thanks for the concern man. Funny story I’m actually in the ER right now. On a rotation for school lol. So if I go down at least I’m where I need to be.

I better get some snap back out of this bc this sucks

 

[Orion]

I took 6 grams kcl with breakfast and 7 g at lunch . I have severe numbness in hands feet and face , I don’t feel good. Has anyone taking the high doses had this? How long till it resolves ? @Orion @Helen

This feels terrible, I think I’ll have to end the experiment

@IHateFin

I took 30grams of KCl daily for the last 3 days. Equals roughly 15 grams of K spread throughout the day. I had no good or bad symptoms, felt maybe a bit more irritable, sleep was not great, lots of waking, but very deep. Not sure what this means, I have low K on hairtest. @Helen Took each dose with lots of NaCl and MgCl.

Back to supp'ing normal ~3grams elemental K per day now.

 

[Orion]

I took 6 grams kcl with breakfast and 7 g at lunch . I have severe numbness in hands feet and face , I don’t feel good. Has anyone taking the high doses had this? How long till it resolves ? @Orion @Helen

This feels terrible, I think I’ll have to end the experiment

4.5grams is the RDA for K

13grams KCl would give you ~6grams K on top of your diet, not a massive jump, but seems to affect you adversely, did you take with salt and magnesium? Drink lot of water?

 

[Aflac94]

@IHateFin

I took 30grams of KCl daily for the last 3 days. Equals roughly 15 grams of K spread throughout the day. I had no good or bad symptoms, felt maybe a bit more irritable, sleep was not great, lots of waking, but very deep. Not sure what this means, I have low K on hairtest. @Helen Took each dose with lots of NaCl and MgCl.

Back to supp'ing normal ~3grams elemental K per day now.

Wow that is a lot. Maybe your kidneys are better at clearing it or it is lower in blood so you can tolerate more , or you aren’t absorbing as much with all the other stuff you take. Who knows. Interesting though you can take so much

 

[Aflac94]

4.5grams is the RDA for K

13grams KCl would give you ~6grams K on top of your diet, not a massive jump, but seems to affect you adversely, did you take with salt and magnesium? Drink lot of water?

Yeah I had seen that and which is why I was comfortable taking those doses. But that numbness was crazy.

I took it with mgcl, Whey, and some salt in the meal I ate before I took it

 

[Orion]

Wow that is a lot. Maybe your kidneys are better at clearing it or it is lower in blood so you can tolerate more , or you aren’t absorbing as much with all the other stuff you take. Who knows. Interesting though you can take so much

Strange your K level on hairtest is lower then mine. I didnt have any bowel issues, but yea maybe its not absorbing it all. Hoping that some positives will come from snapback, I think @Troy mentioned benefits after stopping high doses.

 

[Aflac94]

Strange your K level on hairtest is lower then mine. I didnt have any bowel issues, but yea maybe its not absorbing it all. Hoping that some positives will come from snapback, I think @Troy mentioned benefits after stopping high doses.

Yeah he did but he only worked up to 2000mg over a few weeks. Then had benefits 3/4 weeks later, so not same experiment exactly but we will wait and see for any benefits

 

[IHateFin]

@IHateFin

I took 30grams of KCl daily for the last 3 days. Equals roughly 15 grams of K spread throughout the day. I had no good or bad symptoms, felt maybe a bit more irritable, sleep was not great, lots of waking, but very deep. Not sure what this means, I have low K on hairtest. @Helen Took each dose with lots of NaCl and MgCl.

Back to supp'ing normal ~3grams elemental K per day now.

Interesting! Well you took the other two electrolytes so maybe you just still had a decent balance enough to not feel bad from kcl..

 

[Aflac94]

Tried to sprint today. Feel like death after exercising. Nice reminder that I have made very little progress physically with this shit.

I always worried about getting older like it was a distant thing and wondered how old people felt about losing the things they could once do.
Wish I hadn’t found the answer to that one so young. Fuck man. One day I hope I can exercise again. I used to live for that shit. When I was out on a run I felt euphoric, and all my senses were sharpened, I felt connected to everything

 

[Aflac94]

Same goes for sleep. I used to sleep like the dead. And man the pressure to sleep was intense. When I would wake up, my sleep was so deep i would be confused and in a fog for like half hour after waking up. Today I’m just awake instantly once consciousness returns.

If someone defined insomnia for me then I probably would have looked at them confused

 

[Aflac94]

Okay two posts was enough to stop feeling sorry for myself. I have all 5 of my limbs working. I’ll keep moving forward with that )

 

[MNK99]

I feel you mate I think 11-12 d barely sleep so far. Quick short workout I'm gonna take theanine and rest really early 9.20-10 or something till like 6-8 am maybe 12 hrs if I can.
Hang in there man.
NEVER MIND -- opposite of what you're saying. Read this all messed up, outside gym, like 23hrs/290hrs slept max Jesus. I'm sure this kills a lot of normal ppl. I dunno tho.