PFS since march 2016 - My hair results and plan moving forward

[Helen]

@Aflac94 just go one step of the time, as of now you react well to androgens,

so just raise androgens, and see what happens.

to raise androgens you need to increase iron absorption. since DHT is made from IRON.

 

[Aflac94]

Gilberts people should never take finasteride, you cant not detox it properly.

I’ll make a note of that lol

 

[Aflac94]

@Aflac94 just go one step of the time, as of now you react well to androgens,

so just raise androgens, and see what happens.

to raise androgens you need to increase iron absorption. since DHT is made from IRON.

I had other issues before PFS (that I would take back any day rather than PFS)

IBS type issues
GERD
Migraines
Premature ejaculation (still sort of , actually improved with PFS)
Anxiety
Exercise addiction
Lean/tone , but can’t gain weight

Gives an idea of my previous body chemistry

 

[Aflac94]

@Aflac94 just go one step of the time, as of now you react well to androgens,

so just raise androgens, and see what happens.

to raise androgens you need to increase iron absorption. since DHT is made from IRON.

Like I said I took R-Andro 300 mg a day so that felt good. One random day I felt amazing almost cured.

But for rest of weeks I just felt better , not cured.

 

[Aflac94]

Gilbert's Syndrome Mutations

Interesting site, definitely can see the connection you mentioned to not processing estrogens properly @Helen

I’ll have to look back at my blood work to check unconjugated billirubin levels

Reading through it , I’m interested in SamE supplement for methionine

 

[Helen]

Gilbert's Syndrome Mutations

Interesting site, definitely can see the connection you mentioned to not processing estrogens properly @Helen

I’ll have to look back at my blood work to check unconjugated billirubin levels

Reading through it , I’m interested in SamE supplement for methionine

Were you diagnosed with Gilbert's or not?

 

[Aflac94]

Were you diagnosed with Gilbert's or not?

No. And I have never experienced jaundiced as an adolescent or adult. Only found 1 CMP and bilirubin was normal. So not sure I am Gilbert’s, maybe another low functioning enzyme tho

I was jaundiced at birth and put under the light therapy, but I was premature at 32 weeks (thanks to amniocentesis at 20 weeks - medical community keeps trying to kill me) so I think that is common in premature babies.

 

[Helen]

No. And I have never experienced jaundiced as an adolescent or adult. Only found 1 CMP and bilirubin was normal. So not sure I am Gilbert’s, maybe another low functioning enzyme tho

I was jaundiced at birth and put under the light therapy, but I was premature at 32 weeks (thanks to amniocentesis at 20 weeks - medical community keeps trying to kill me) so I think that is common in premature babies.

oh, ok, since I saw you mention that you have Gilberts. somewhere. so I thought you were diagnosed with Gilberts

 

[Aflac94]

oh, ok, since I saw you mention that you have Gilberts. somewhere. so I thought you were diagnosed with Gilberts

No I was just saying maybe I have it , just rambling.

Even though I had some health complaints before finasteride, things worked pretty good. Comparison to Now is night and day. I had the PFS crash for sure

Does this change the recommend for me or still stand by copper chelation first?

I just wish I could get back to exercising and lifting , it’s been 3 years , I miss it. Wish I could fix that before I go down chelation /TEI path since that can be years from what I’ve read and seen here

 

[ruprmurdoch]

I agree with you. This guy seems to have Gilberts to me. He is not properly detoxing estrogen. Copper builds up which lowers his histamine. Histidine goes down. trying to make more histamine. Without histidine - no iron absorption since low stomach acid.


Also PFS might have made his cortisol sensitive. this stops his histidine to histamine conversion, and this is a double whammy.

Would be nice to see his HISTIDINE levels in blood as comparing to @HerrFisch who does not have PFS


We have @HerrFisch with similar hairtest , and his histidine levels are low as I recall. but he does not have PFS but has IBD and traceelements were giving him tons of iron.


And then we have PSSD people @talkingant @barbaar with very high histidine levels in blood. and low copper on the hairtest.

Their serum iron is high. Hairtest looks the same.



We also had @Raincoast with similar hairtest with high copper and he got cured on copper chelation protocol


@HerrFisch is doing much better on resveratrol


We also have Wuf , who is also a slow oxidizer also with higher copper levels. and IBD same as all these other guys.

Also I reccomend visiting physiotherapist for all PFS,PSSD,POIS, PAS, other sick people,
check back and chest and neck whether is stiffened. Massages will help a LOT.

 

[Kjbigman]

Gilberts people should never take finasteride, you cant not detox it properly.

I was diagnosed with Gilbert's. Been on finasteride for 2 years now. I'm guessing it's probably the case that my diagnosis was wrong?

 

[Aflac94]

Guys I started a new job and I’m gonna be working 100 hours weeks some weeks. Other weeks not as much hopefully.

I used read literally ever thread from each day before bed. I’m gonna fall behind on that.

If anything worth noting develops please message me or post here , I will still try to read as much as I can

My plan is alternating the main staples
I’m on CD now
Gonna do OC gut protocol with TEI next

 

[Nina]

@joekool @ncsugrad

Low carb diet, does one thing lowers NADPH. Since NADPH is made from sugar. So low carb diet= same as going on finasteride


Joe, you see Jack17 taking the same dosages of avodart, but his DHT is creeping up higher and higher.

could mean these things.

1) Progesterone receptor is getting weaker or stronger

2) NADPH production which avodart and fin BIND, is getting more. so g6pd enzyme goes higher. producing more NADPH.

by the way DHEA is an inhibitor of G6PD. so I guess fasting or low carb, would be close to taking DHEA.

3) gaba is getting upregulated more.

So the fin is definitely moving the body chemistry for Jack 17



When you fast, or go low carb, you decrease NADPH. They use fasting or low carb to downregulate g6pd enzyme


May be if there is upregulation of that enzyme after fin. then too much NADPH is made. and body is breaking it down by NADPH oxidase, causing oxidative stress.

So would low carb help slow oxidizers? Seeing that it decreases DHT

 

[Aflac94]

In terms of urine that is a primary excretory mode for the body and hair is a minor excretory organ ?

so if you have high zinc in your urine does this mean your body has high zinc and is working to eliminate, or you are losing zinc and therefore low. I guess you would need blood and cellular levels of zinc to answer that question ?

Same question for hair , i have high copper on my hair test , but I have never check my blood or cellular levels of copper , how do I know if I have high copper and my body is trying to excrete or if I am just wasting copper and my body is low.

Or is hair a reflection of cell levels?

I did do RBC levels of zinc and mg and potassium, mg and k+ were normal to low , consistent with hair. my RBC zinc was a little high, hair levels were in range.

I think this was talked about in the past but I don’t remember if it was ever explained or we came to a conclusion.