Orion
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So another update. 2 Month ago i decided to start TEI. At that point my head was shaved and i let my hair growth back for about 2 month. (so i have about 2 cm as samples)
In this period i didn t take any minerals at all. I ate "normal" with some vegetables juice and only took Vit. C, B Complex (more B2) and E for a week per month. I also only took one sildenafil at this time. (Middle of Nov. i got some libido improvements and End of Nov. i managed to have sex without Sildenafil for my first time this year - my erection didn't fade away during the act)
End of Nov. i did the test and today i got results:
SLOW 4
Comparing this results with ARL on my first page this is completely confusing for me right now. I also don't really know if my blood results are matching with the results of TEI. (but i remember before i did ARL test i experimented with Electroylte protocol (took KCL, and all kinds of aminoacids and minerals)..maybe my ARL test is invalid)
Anyways i think my hair samples were valid (i dont think the Vitamins i took have a huge impact on my results). i will do a cycle for 2 month wit the TEI supps and retest it. The only suplement i will take in addition is B2.
@Helen @Orion @barbaar @talkingant @Jaxx
In this period i didn t take any minerals at all. I ate "normal" with some vegetables juice and only took Vit. C, B Complex (more B2) and E for a week per month. I also only took one sildenafil at this time. (Middle of Nov. i got some libido improvements and End of Nov. i managed to have sex without Sildenafil for my first time this year - my erection didn't fade away during the act)
End of Nov. i did the test and today i got results:
SLOW 4
Comparing this results with ARL on my first page this is completely confusing for me right now. I also don't really know if my blood results are matching with the results of TEI. (but i remember before i did ARL test i experimented with Electroylte protocol (took KCL, and all kinds of aminoacids and minerals)..maybe my ARL test is invalid)
Anyways i think my hair samples were valid (i dont think the Vitamins i took have a huge impact on my results). i will do a cycle for 2 month wit the TEI supps and retest it. The only suplement i will take in addition is B2.
@Helen @Orion @barbaar @talkingant @Jaxx
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UPDATE: 1.5 weeks on TEI.
I currently have headaches non-stop. It feels like someone is slamming a knife in my head and flip it over. It also takes hours before i fall asleep.
It really seems TEI supps are doing some work in my brain. Maybe nasty detox reactions? mhhh...
I currently have headaches non-stop. It feels like someone is slamming a knife in my head and flip it over. It also takes hours before i fall asleep.
It really seems TEI supps are doing some work in my brain. Maybe nasty detox reactions? mhhh...
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I felt like an ostrich kicked me in the head. Migraine a lot yesterday but may be related to some unbecoming events that transpired only fleetingly.
Possibry Detox rxns. Ella and ru hurt my brain/head also. But, didn't care as much (tho did lose some things/ worse memory on those.....). no headache now.
Like 4-6hrs migraine. Also.... insomnia, mood dx, migraines can all be related. It's been some time since I had a migraine tho. Could be vodka, etc relapse related but that was days ago. That reminds me not gonna workout much just a bit, felt head and neck pain (overtraining, and less possible now).
--SUper Disciplined besides that. minor relapse. Still fasted trained 90/95 days or something. Drinking was OFF TEI and waiting for my reup of supply as well as pre-water fasting a bit (7-8 days or so).
-I believe it shall pass in your case. As it did in mine, but may come back here and there.
Possibry Detox rxns. Ella and ru hurt my brain/head also. But, didn't care as much (tho did lose some things/ worse memory on those.....). no headache now.
Like 4-6hrs migraine. Also.... insomnia, mood dx, migraines can all be related. It's been some time since I had a migraine tho. Could be vodka, etc relapse related but that was days ago. That reminds me not gonna workout much just a bit, felt head and neck pain (overtraining, and less possible now).
--SUper Disciplined besides that. minor relapse. Still fasted trained 90/95 days or something. Drinking was OFF TEI and waiting for my reup of supply as well as pre-water fasting a bit (7-8 days or so).
-I believe it shall pass in your case. As it did in mine, but may come back here and there.
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Like 80d ago or so, but on day 62 or something, bc had to wait for resupply. Also either I did 49 or 56d before the unintentional break.... So need to find out the number.
Catherine said same supps are fine. Still make me feel great. Sexual health mostly pretty good but could be better. Mood, asthma, etc great. Sleep great - but that's structure/ work/ planning/ last minute bs screwing it up. Mostly great. Wish it was 10 days rather than 90 or even better 1 d. But it is what it is.
Catherine said same supps are fine. Still make me feel great. Sexual health mostly pretty good but could be better. Mood, asthma, etc great. Sleep great - but that's structure/ work/ planning/ last minute bs screwing it up. Mostly great. Wish it was 10 days rather than 90 or even better 1 d. But it is what it is.
First of all Happy New Year to everyone!
Another short update:
My headaches decreased over X-Mas. Sleep is still shitty but improved a bit.
My libido is a rollercoaster. There are days when i feel that ugly numbness and zero connection and then i have random boners and a REAL desire to have sex. Erection quality also improved a bit. So overall my sexual symptoms improved. Unluckily my social anxiety is coming back...and i feel lack of confidence when i am around people..
It looks like i am on a good way. I am excited to see what happens after my first cycle of TEI
Greetings
BTW here are my TEI SUPPS:
Another short update:
My headaches decreased over X-Mas. Sleep is still shitty but improved a bit.
My libido is a rollercoaster. There are days when i feel that ugly numbness and zero connection and then i have random boners and a REAL desire to have sex. Erection quality also improved a bit. So overall my sexual symptoms improved. Unluckily my social anxiety is coming back...and i feel lack of confidence when i am around people..
It looks like i am on a good way. I am excited to see what happens after my first cycle of TEI
Greetings
BTW here are my TEI SUPPS:
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SHORT UPDATE: OVER 1 MONTH on TEI now
1. Headaches are very rare now and if i get one you can tolerate it
2. Sleep is still fucked up. The last weeks i only slept 3 - 4 h. I often woke up with a racing heart. I often paniced and was thinking i m going to die right know.
3. sexual improvements faded away. Got more days where i feeling no connection at all. Guess i really have to wait after finishing my clycle.
I gonna complete this cycle in ~1.5 month. I will wait 2-3 weeks to see any improvements. If there is nothing special i am going to jump on the urecholine hype train on the pssd forum lol. If that doesn t work i do round 2 TEI
1. Headaches are very rare now and if i get one you can tolerate it
2. Sleep is still fucked up. The last weeks i only slept 3 - 4 h. I often woke up with a racing heart. I often paniced and was thinking i m going to die right know.
3. sexual improvements faded away. Got more days where i feeling no connection at all. Guess i really have to wait after finishing my clycle.
I gonna complete this cycle in ~1.5 month. I will wait 2-3 weeks to see any improvements. If there is nothing special i am going to jump on the urecholine hype train on the pssd forum lol. If that doesn t work i do round 2 TEI
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--Does urecholine have anything to do with Uridine + Choline? I only wonder because of nootropics/mood management.
--I see it as an alternative to flomax according to some google searches.
-also this:
A Nutrient Combination that Can Affect Synapse Formation - NCBI - NIH
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4011061/
by RJ Wurtman - 2014 - Cited by 45 - Related articles
Moreover, the effect of giving uridine, DHA, and choline together is additive or greater. An additional biochemical mechanism activated by the uridine in ...
Missing:urecholine | Must include: urecholine
--I see it as an alternative to flomax according to some google searches.
-also this:
A Nutrient Combination that Can Affect Synapse Formation - NCBI - NIH
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4011061/
by RJ Wurtman - 2014 - Cited by 45 - Related articles
Moreover, the effect of giving uridine, DHA, and choline together is additive or greater. An additional biochemical mechanism activated by the uridine in ...
Missing:
Wikipedia says its from its structure and pharmacologically related to Acetylcholine. Uridine? I dont think so. I found on google that urecholine is just a trademark. The active agent is called Bethanechol
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Yeah I don't think so either, can't find anything on that. Some people had success with BPII and similar things with Uridine or choline or cycling those. I like choline. Choline and dex.... TEI alone helps mood a lot.... maybe some ADHD but not enough to study or work on things you don't like (unlike stims*). BUT choline and dex, also make me more agitated a bit, so need to balance things. Acetylcoline that makes sense. Nicotine helps a lot too... well kind of with normal tasks sure, but hated tasks not the greatest.
Nicotine mimics acetylcholine. I mean vaping, not smoking. Smoking is BAD!!!!
I may try uridine in the future, not so sure about urecholine. If I have extra time and money maybe I will buy it one day. But I probably don't need it. It seems it could be good for PSSD tho.
Nicotine mimics acetylcholine. I mean vaping, not smoking. Smoking is BAD!!!!
I may try uridine in the future, not so sure about urecholine. If I have extra time and money maybe I will buy it one day. But I probably don't need it. It seems it could be good for PSSD tho.
SHORT UPDATE: Almost 2 month on TEI completed
1. Headaches very rare at the moment.
2. Sleep is still fucked up.
3. sexual improvements which i gained the last month/last year are completely gone.
I am in PSSD state now again:
- ZERO libido
- ZERO erections (+ no morning wood etc.)
- dull pain around the area of my balls and dick
- shrinking also started again
At the moment i feel like i am asexual...
1. Headaches very rare at the moment.
2. Sleep is still fucked up.
3. sexual improvements which i gained the last month/last year are completely gone.
I am in PSSD state now again:
- ZERO libido
- ZERO erections (+ no morning wood etc.)
- dull pain around the area of my balls and dick
- shrinking also started again
At the moment i feel like i am asexual...
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what supplements are you on?
So they are giving you just manganese and chromium mostly,
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wow you are completely different from barbaar, your DHT is zero, your progesterone is zero.
yeah its pretty confusing. But i am sure my results of the hairtest are legit.
I will finish this cycle in about 3 weeks so i got a 2,5 month cycle and we will see if i get any improvements after i stopped the supps.
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Years ago on my ray peat time i tried progesterone creme. But this was before i took SSRI.
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I felt worse even at the end of the cycle. A lot of the fatigue while on cycle was still there after 1 week of being off the supplements. Then after 2-3 weeks off the supplements all of a sudden I felt better. Over a few days it changed.
If this is your first cycle I would keep it at 2 months and retest.
Right now on this cycle I have zero libido, zero erections, pain in testicles from time to time, fatigue, etc. Same for the first cycle.
Cannot really gauge progression while taking these supplements. You might even feel worse on some days. I see those days as healing reactions. People on cdsnuts protocol also experience "upswings" and "downswings" especially when they are making progress.
Girls do nothing for me now. Absolute 0%. On the first cycle the same.
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The problem with TEI at this moment is that we even don't know if the hair's results they give you back are right!!!
This is ridicolous in my opinion and very Dangerous...you start to take a ton of supplements that maybe are even not right for you since TEI is wrong.
W e have seen people over here that got different results from different hair body or from different company analisying the same hair.
Not so safe in my opinion, but yes, if we have nothing to loose...that's a change to gambling!