RebelWithACause
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The right way to go is scalp hair.
None of the approaches are 100% safe. Same for the people doing cdsnuts. Same for the people who are taking random supplements trying to fix it.
TEI is the safest out of all of them. It is the only one where you have something to measure. The rest is random - people figured this out by trying it out, out of desperation.
All of them have risk that is why you have to make the choice which route you are going to do. And accept there is risk to it and then do it.
The reason why I went with TEI is because before finasteride and PFS I already used to experiment with minerals (mostly zinc, magnesium) and noticed what profound effect they have on energy, hormones, mood, muscle, etc. I know how powerful minerals are. Plus I was taking random shit before TEI which did not help.
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--Freedom or safety, choose one at the expense of the other. @wuf.
--And Like RWAC, I had other experience (Mg for 4 yrs or so, maybe longer with illegal stimulant use before that). --And also it destroys the need to consider any psyche med that I once in while had (every few yrs considered it, tried it 2x in a decade - each time pretty bad results).
--Cleaner a person is pre TEI, the better. Surely.
--If someone goes from desolate health --> straight to TEI. It's probably a difficult experience.
--However, there's probably 2-200 difficult experiences in solving one of these pharma-syndromes. So what's the difference?
--I freaked out quite a lot pre TEI. And admonished it. Not saying TEI cures all. I've seen people pass away from things that I highly doubt TEI would cure, not to mention being around a ton of medical and other professionals who would think it's crazy. (most didn't fix 2-10 health problems though, but still that's not my point here).
-- I mean if I bit the bullet for randro, fasting, much of but not all of CD's. Waited. Fasted again at times, electrolytes, juice feasting.
-- what will some minerals do that will kill me? Nothing.
-- Basically everything in life is kind of dangerous. Must leave comfort zone and challenge ourselves. I even became an afterschool special.
-- Just send head hair WUF, you like me have enough fucking hair to send.
-- These things had no setback for me and they're markedly worse for a person than TEI: COCAINE, Coka Cola (softdrink), Coke Zero, Alcohol (bottles 40%), 50 cigs and 3 cigars in like 2 days. Dexamethasone. Ru megadoses , ella megadoses (like 5-10x what you're supposed to take), like overdosing on inhalers, etc.
-tei's better than all those for a person perhaps, and didn't kill me. (bad things above were recklessness, not measuring things, etc, surrounded by idiots so addictive tendencies kicked in). --- ALSO some other bad things I can't remember. BREAD -- and I hate bread to be honest.
--And Like RWAC, I had other experience (Mg for 4 yrs or so, maybe longer with illegal stimulant use before that). --And also it destroys the need to consider any psyche med that I once in while had (every few yrs considered it, tried it 2x in a decade - each time pretty bad results).
--Cleaner a person is pre TEI, the better. Surely.
--If someone goes from desolate health --> straight to TEI. It's probably a difficult experience.
--However, there's probably 2-200 difficult experiences in solving one of these pharma-syndromes. So what's the difference?
--I freaked out quite a lot pre TEI. And admonished it. Not saying TEI cures all. I've seen people pass away from things that I highly doubt TEI would cure, not to mention being around a ton of medical and other professionals who would think it's crazy. (most didn't fix 2-10 health problems though, but still that's not my point here).
-- I mean if I bit the bullet for randro, fasting, much of but not all of CD's. Waited. Fasted again at times, electrolytes, juice feasting.
-- what will some minerals do that will kill me? Nothing.
-- Basically everything in life is kind of dangerous. Must leave comfort zone and challenge ourselves. I even became an afterschool special.
-- Just send head hair WUF, you like me have enough fucking hair to send.
-- These things had no setback for me and they're markedly worse for a person than TEI: COCAINE, Coka Cola (softdrink), Coke Zero, Alcohol (bottles 40%), 50 cigs and 3 cigars in like 2 days. Dexamethasone. Ru megadoses , ella megadoses (like 5-10x what you're supposed to take), like overdosing on inhalers, etc.
-tei's better than all those for a person perhaps, and didn't kill me. (bad things above were recklessness, not measuring things, etc, surrounded by idiots so addictive tendencies kicked in). --- ALSO some other bad things I can't remember. BREAD -- and I hate bread to be honest.
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@RebelWithACause
thanks for your infos. So u rec. that i should wait 2-3 weeks after the cycle to see any improvements?
When should i do the retest? Directly after i complete the cycle or 1 month after the cycle? Are there any advices?
@wuf
U get it we have nothing to loose... and i don t know why people send other stuff then scalp hair in. Even TEI says onyl scalp hair gives legit results and other stuff doesn t work well.
thanks for your infos. So u rec. that i should wait 2-3 weeks after the cycle to see any improvements?
When should i do the retest? Directly after i complete the cycle or 1 month after the cycle? Are there any advices?
@wuf
U get it we have nothing to loose... and i don t know why people send other stuff then scalp hair in. Even TEI says onyl scalp hair gives legit results and other stuff doesn t work well.
I'm personally still not sure 100%about TEI.
I will send my hair soon but I can see a lot of people is having issues even on TEI.
That scares me a lot since I don't want to loose the little gains I have gained
I feel you bro. At the moment am also scared af that i gain no improvements after the cycle. I even started to pray every day..
TEI for me is the only choice at the moment. The last 5+ years on PSSD-Forum they try tons of stuff and 99 % of that is failure or fake...
I´ll put my whole faith in TEI and Helen.
TEI for me is the only choice at the moment. The last 5+ years on PSSD-Forum they try tons of stuff and 99 % of that is failure or fake...
I´ll put my whole faith in TEI and Helen.
Goose12
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I already posted it on another thread today but this a great YouTube channel on mineral balancing. Snow1 posted about it last week
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Could you summarize the main parts of this vid? I hope he didn't see progression during his end of his nine year trail, but a heck sooner.
Nine years on a Dutch TEI program would cost me 16200 euro's.
Goose12
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He said it took two years until he considered himself recovered. You should watch it. He goes through the same things we do. Lots of ups and downs. His copper was extremely high, inherited for m his mother.
barbaar
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I've been watching this guys channel a lot. Interesting that he also talks about visual snow. I've had visual snow and tinnitus for as long as I can remember, way before pssd.
Goose12
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Same here. I remember being a little kid and having visual snow and tinnitus. I always thought it was normal. I would lay in bed and watch the stars in my room (visual snow).
barbaar
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Me too! I remember being able to focus really hard and making patterns in the snow lol. And see it change shape/frequency/color around objects. Also sound seems to affect it, and vice versa. Looking at certain things changes the pitch of my tinnitus. Has it improved on TEI for you so far?
and before SSRI...
Everybody is more or less sick. I know a guy with gluten sensitivity, lactose intolerance, bad energy and balding. He took fin for some months, didnt work for him, he stopped and nothing happened. While I had literally 0 problems apart from hairloss and felt better than 90% of the people and crashed.
IMO fin can dysregulate and crash "healthy" people too.
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Hey freeflow brother- I agree, most people with PFS were not sick prior to Fin. Without a doubt some may have been, but most? Doubtful. I have noticed that within the PFS community though, especially on SolvePFS, where if one or two people had something in common, that means everyone does.
The majority of PFS people that I have gotten to know over the years, again mostly on SolvePFS, were not sick prior to fin. Unless by sick we mean some mineral imbalance, which in that case 99% of the world's population is probably sick, PFS or not.
The majority of PFS people that I have gotten to know over the years, again mostly on SolvePFS, were not sick prior to fin. Unless by sick we mean some mineral imbalance, which in that case 99% of the world's population is probably sick, PFS or not.
Yes, i see it a lot of times that one guys gets a symptom on fin or off in the crash and he believes everyone feels the same and has the same symptom and reaction. And just because he cannot get cured by tribulus, the recoveries are fake.
How are you btw, still on cds protocol?
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I can also see patterns and colors, mostly when I close my eyes.
It's hard to tell if it's improved because I lived with it all of my life it's never been an issue. It's not something that distracts me. I did just go into a dark room and it didn't seem as bright. The worst it ever was, was the one time I took hemp oil and it was crazy. I was watching stars in the middle of the day.
I have never been big in pot, i only did it the one time.
I have asked my family if they have visual snow, and they dont see it at all.
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barbaar
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Hmm yeah I hear ya. I don't remember a time without it either so it's not really distracting. It would still be cool if it went away though.
UPDATE:
I ended my cycle 6 days ago so my first cycle lasted exactly 2 month. (also recommended from TEI)
At the moment i see some improvements:
- SLEEP is way better now (thank god)
- Headaches almost completely gone
Also sexual symptoms are improving slightly
- Libido is stronger
- I get erections easier
- Pain in genital area almost faded away
- Shrinkage improved a bit
Looks good to me so far.
Because of my buzz cut i have to wait some weeks more till i can take another hair sample. So i will report any changes in a few weeks and start my second cycle in about 1 month.
I just hope the improvements are persistent.
Let´s keep going...
I ended my cycle 6 days ago so my first cycle lasted exactly 2 month. (also recommended from TEI)
At the moment i see some improvements:
- SLEEP is way better now (thank god)
- Headaches almost completely gone
Also sexual symptoms are improving slightly
- Libido is stronger
- I get erections easier
- Pain in genital area almost faded away
- Shrinkage improved a bit
Looks good to me so far.
Because of my buzz cut i have to wait some weeks more till i can take another hair sample. So i will report any changes in a few weeks and start my second cycle in about 1 month.
I just hope the improvements are persistent.
Let´s keep going...