R ANDRO / ANDROSTERONE

[MNK99]

I don't think it's fake @djohn051.
Almost certain isn't. Esp if bought from one particular eBay supplier or strongsupplements.

It isn't what you wanted tho.

It is: 3b- enanthoxy-19-nor-androst-4-ene-17-one.

I think, different effects than R-Andro.
DHEA based.
Tubzy et Al know a lot about all these.

If they sent you wrong stuff, return or if accidentally ordered that also try and return. I hope it works out cool, MNK.

 

[TubZy]

View attachment 543View attachment 543 Did I get some fake stuff? I'm used to this stuff having a big R on it

That is norandro (not R andro), a "deca" type pro hormone. It converts to Nandrolone in the body as it goes from DHEA to Nandrolone then to Nortestosterone. I wouldn't use it personally.

 

[djohn051]

That is norandro, a deca/progesterone type pro hormone. I wouldn't use it personally.

Thanks for everyones clarification. I've taken R-Andro and this is certainly not what was pictured when I bought.

Returning now.

 

[djohn051]

Thanks for everyones clarification. I've taken R-Andro and this is certainly not what was pictured when I bought.

Returning now.

They are reimbursing me fortunately!

Also, two other containers of actual IML R-Andro I ordered showed up and are the actual stuff.

In relation to dosing - my first cycle, I took 400mg per day (all at once after dinner), for 4 weeks. What do you think I should do this time? I don't usually eat my first meal until 4pm (intermittent fasting) so I am unsure if I can take on an empty stomach? Do you think I should up the dose too? I never felt anything really on my first cycle.

 

[jacknap]

That is norandro (not R andro), a "deca" type pro hormone. It converts to Nandrolone in the body as it goes from DHEA to Nandrolone then to Nortestosterone. I wouldn't use it personally.

deca dick + pfs = shieeet lol

would be hilarious if it accidently cured pfs tho cuz gbold did say the deca dick works under similar mechanism as i recall on raypeart..

 

[bd part 2]

Same. I've been on it for 14 days now and no noticeable change in symptoms unfortunately. Some people have said that people actually improve after the cycle. Maybe someone could confirm that?

I did a cycle of only 200/day. I felt calmer on it but got emotional spells, ended the cycle early. After ending it, boom....my anxiety improved massively and it stuck

 

[djohn051]

I've just finished my second cycle of R-Andro as of yesterday. I cycled for about 4 weeks at doses ranging from 400-600mg per day. Unfortunately on the cycle I didn't feel any changes, but I have heard some people say that the improvements are noticed after the cycle.

For those that did see improvements, how long did it take after your cycle?

 

[MNK99]

-2 cycles enough already right?
-or some fast again a long time, and then do arl, and then do randro/4andro again later like 12 weeks - 14 weeks or so after arl (2-3 months, or 6months maybe, if ARL takes longer, so 6mo plus 12 wks, i.e. like 12- 24 weeks from arl beginning to the end, and then starting another andro/4andro cycle?)
-success, taking half dose recommended of ARL to prevent drastic detox/ other reactions?
-Success, taking TEI in hopes that it's more gentle than ARL side effects experienced by many?
-Randro/4andro... do not want to get too used to it / relying on it, bc 15 years working out, mostly natural. Coffee, and stuff sure... but can't rely on a ton of drugs.
-This is to recover from PFS obviously/ but other things are needed as well (and I did a lot, and will do more).

 

[Trump_1776]

-2 cycles enough already right?
-or some fast again a long time, and then do arl, and then do randro/4andro again later like 12 weeks - 14 weeks or so after arl (2-3 months, or 6months maybe, if ARL takes longer, so 6mo plus 12 wks, i.e. like 12- 24 weeks from arl beginning to the end, and then starting another andro/4andro cycle?)
-success, taking half dose recommended of ARL to prevent drastic detox/ other reactions?
-Success, taking TEI in hopes that it's more gentle than ARL side effects experienced by many?
-Randro/4andro... do not want to get too used to it / relying on it, bc 15 years working out, mostly natural. Coffee, and stuff sure... but can't rely on a ton of drugs.
-This is to recover from PFS obviously/ but other things are needed as well (and I did a lot, and will do more).

Whats Arl?

 

[Trump_1776]

August 3rd will begin my 3rd cycle. This time with R andro and 4 andro.
Same deal: 200mg morning and evening of both.

I do 30 day cycles. It seems to work well for myself. I also work outside in the sun extensively.

 

[MNK99]

-Finishing/ finished cycle 2. First was 42 or 49 days (long, and sometimes HIGH doses - it was fine, but suppressive a bit (tired, mood stuff), and definitely was too high.
-I did PCT, the exact same time or even longer. Moderate proper doses. Sometimes large, bc I did larger R-Andro+4-Andro doses.
-So like 80 days later or so, I did 33 days (lower doses like 2-3 caps of randro and 4andro on non-workout days, 3-5 caps on workout days) just now.
-And sometimes as high as 7 caps in cycle #1.
-And I worked out 5-7 days a week towards second half of cycle one, PCT one, and most of cycle 2 was 5-6 days. If no gym, then walked if I could.
-I worked out like 19/21 days or so, because paranoid - getting fat. But I'm not really, I thought I was.

-I just started PCT.
-33 days-Cycle#2 is enough right? This way PCT can be shorter, and MNK can do TEI or ARL sooner. Not to be a broken record, I'm just saying.
-This makes sense, correct?
-I worked out 5 x this week, may take 6 days off. And then 4-5 days, and light 2+ days a week, so taking it easier. Taking time off to force self to relax/not injure self.
-Yeah I'm a bit stronger/leaner... but I am more injury prone, and cannot have anything jack up my mood too long. And I don't want suppression. And I want to finish this all.
-I'm trying to end water retention (slight most the time), and also increase penissary returns.


EDIT - Sun, Aug. 5th, 2018:
Hey @Trump_1776 , you probably know by now. BUT I missed your question, ARL is one of the methods used here to help reinstate normalcy. TEI seems gentler***,
no detox reactions there.
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[Trump_1776]

-Finishing/ finished cycle 2. First was 42 or 49 days (long, and sometimes HIGH doses - it was fine, but suppressive a bit (tired, mood stuff), and definitely was too high.
-So like 80 days later or so, I did 33 days (lower doses like 2-3 caps of randro and 4andro on non-workout days, 3-5 on workout days) just now. ... and just started PCT.
-33 days is enough right? This way PCT can be shorter, and MNK can do TEI or ARL sooner. Not to be a broken record, I'm just saying.
-This makes sense, correct?
-I worked out 5 x this week, may take 6 days off. ANd then 4-5 days, and light 2+ days a week, so taking it easier.
-Yeah a bit stronger/leaner... but I am more injury prone, and cannot have anything jack up my mood too long. And I don't want suppression. And I want to finish this all.
-I'm trying to end water retention (slight most the time), and also increase penissary returns.

You may be complicating things a tad but I think you're doing well!

 

[MNK99]

-1. @wuf did you try those again (R-Andro)? Or for the first time. I know we discussed it, I closed off 98.3% of convos to keep things simple.
-2. Anyone microdose R-Andro and 4-Andro, I mean run a mini-cycle? Like 4-7days? Even worth it at this point, or just stay natural?

 

[wuf]

-1. @wuf did you try those again (R-Andro)? Or for the first time. I know we discussed it, I closed off 98.3% of convos to keep things simple.
-2. Anyone microdose R-Andro and 4-Andro, I mean run a mini-cycle? Like 4-7days? Even worth it at this point, or just stay natural?

Hey man.
I still didn’t.
I’m in hospital from 25 days now. I had a very bad UC attack, now they’re treating me with cortison, no other way... I just hope this shit doesn’t shut me down completely @Helen

 

[HerrFisch]

@wuf

shit, sorry to hear.
Was there a reason for the flare up, like from experimenting with things or no particularly reason ?

 

[MNK99]

Oh, I'm very sorry to hear that bro, I didn't know it was 25 d jeez. Take care. I hope it's resolved quickly.

 

[wuf]

Nah man.. don't worry. I could eat a live lobster, shoot roids, smoke opium and I still won't crash.
Actually I hate lobster, but you get the point.
You'll be ok man. I believe in you.
FAST later,... TEI... done.
Worst case you may have a minor set back, you won't fully crash. I doubt it.

I hope. I’m not eating from 23 days.
Just started eating again these last two days.
My gut got completely ulcerative, there was no way to introduce any food.
I was vomiting, diarrea 65 times per day.. plus high fever everyday. Now cortison setted me back a little bit.
I hope I won’t crash from cortiso

@wuf

shit, sorry to hear.
Was there a reason for the flare up, like from experimenting with things or no particularly reason ?

No real Reason. 25 days today layed on the bed. No more muscles on my body. No good at all since 3 days ago. Vomiting, 38 fever, diharrea, pain.
I don’t know what happened.
Treating me with corticosteroids now, no other way to calm down this flare.
Hope I will not crash more.
I can’t even walk. No energy, no muscles.

 

[MNK99]

Fuck man, sorry to hear. Sounds quite severe. Not impossible to come back from* but like a major ordeal. My thoughts are with you, mate.

 

[Helen]

I hope. I’m not eating from 23 days.
Just started eating again these last two days.
My gut got completely ulcerative, there was no way to introduce any food.
I was vomiting, diarrea 65 times per day.. plus high fever everyday. Now cortison setted me back a little bit.
I hope I won’t crash from cortiso

No real Reason. 25 days today layed on the bed. No more muscles on my body. No good at all since 3 days ago. Vomiting, 38 fever, diharrea, pain.
I don’t know what happened.
Treating me with corticosteroids now, no other way to calm down this flare.
Hope I will not crash more.
I can’t even walk. No energy, no muscles.

Shit, man. This is awful.

 

[wuf]

Shit, man. This is awful.

Can’t believe it.
I have UC from 20 years, never ever happened something like this.
It’s a real torture from 25 days.
I’m 58 kg now.
I’m a ghost.