Raven Log

[Helen]

Depends on what you mean. I cycle 5/6 herbs I bought on bulk supplements. $100 on amazon.
R andro is bought off ebay. $35.
I have not touched $300 in total yet and I've been recovering since february. And I feel great.

Edit: Not to mention the free samples I get from Bulk supplements

Good for you man.

I like r andro cycles. they make sense to me.

 

[Trump_1776]

Good for you man.

I like r andro cycles. they make sense to me.

They aren't too shabby

 

[Goose12]

Depends on what you mean. I cycle 5/6 herbs I bought on bulk supplements. $100 on amazon.
R andro is bought off ebay. $35.
I have not touched $300 in total yet and I've been recovering since february. And I feel great.

Edit: Not to mention the free samples I get from Bulk supplements

I jumped on cd's protocol 100%. Needed my dick back lol

At the time it was the only protocol that i had found to be been proven to cure people. So I wasn't screwing around.

You are not on cds protocol, you are on your own.

 

[Helen]

I jumped on cd's protocol 100%. Needed my dick back lol

At the time it was the only protocol that i had found to be been proven to cure people. So I wasn't screwing around.

You are not on cds protocol, you are on your own.

How many andro cycles did you do?

 

[Trump_1776]

I jumped on cd's protocol 100%. Needed my dick back lol

At the time it was the only protocol that i had found to be been proven to cure people. So I wasn't screwing around.

You are not on cds protocol, you are on your own.

I could agree with your statement.

 

[Goose12]

How many andro cycles did you do?

I have done 2. It helped in some areas but felt like it was throwing me out of balance in other areas, and it wasn't as profound as tei.

Labido was completely gone on cycle and never fully recovered off cycle. Even with herb cycling. Anxiety was better after each cycle.

 

[Goose12]

I could agree with your statement.

If what you are doing works for you stick with it. After my 1st cycle of tei I knew it was the way to go.

 

[MNK99]

I don't enjoy looking at certain accounts. But I think Tei was like 400-500 CAD or so for 5 mo and another 80 shipping. Ru was like 500. 1/3 of the herbs (possibly chosen randomly) was like 800-1k, Randro and 4andro like 1000 (I used a LOT) ALSO kingsblood a few hundred...

Also @raven, I think first I bought random things that helped PH people (i was desperate). Then I bought a lot of herbs
And like juice feasting 7-10 days it *barely* helped... Not nearly enough to make me not suicidal. But after fasting and Randro and 4andro and forcing 5 + workouts a week, just megadosing 6 herbs they felt pretty strong. With kingsblood had near equal gains (or rather was cutting more and gaining a bit of LBM, rather than sort of in mass gaining mode on Randro/4andro), and it felt strong.

I think none of this stuff would help me as much without the previous steps.

Like even Randro at first was like I don't know... But I did go from 15 percent bf measured in 2016 winter to 11 recently... And got even chest (weakest bodypart) to my weight. And 1.5-1.7* for some reps in some areas. So I'm saying ... Honestly without lots of research, just pulling the trigger much purchased seemed random hit and miss but it worked out well.

The herbs I didn't like in October came in handy in May and August for pct. Leading me to believe cycling them 6-12 weeks or whatever would be fine now. Kind of make me nauseas, and more agressive which I truly don't need, so rather not but definitely helped. helped sex drive but more After* coming off. I think Randro and 4andro helped on and off. Still a ways to go. But optimistic. About PFS at least. Most things really.

 

[MNK99]

I remember you saying wtf when I told you I spent a few grand if not way more lol.
It is a lot to import. Plus yes... 35 a bottle... But 9 bottles is like 420 Cad or more. @Trump_1776 dude are you sure you didn't spend 300 yet??

Add 4 Andro that's 800 ish.

I mean I'm glad I'm better. I mean I expected it to cost a lot. Although a lot was Ella and Ru too. Also lost some Ru... But that's another story.

Ah bulk supplements. Whatever it's less than 20 meds from docs or losing 2-10 years income being sick. I'm happy you did it inexpensively bro.

 

[MNK99]

3 grand easily. Importing. Yes, it can be done cheaper. But like all problems, throwing money at it is the quickest solution. Could be worse.

And this city just built a moronic 8 MN dollar "bridge" (skywalk). Not sure how the hell that piece of shit cost 8 MN dollars. But that's how it is here. Trudeau Jr's ballet lessons and hair transplants are probably 19-22000 dollars. But after channelling it thru the taxpayers, it's like 99999 dollars.

Also bulk supps wasn't selling to me.
Tei is basically affordable. I mean same cost or less a bit more other shyt.

My rent went to 0 percent and soon maybe 50-60% of what it was or would be on East coast. So I can afford that stuff.

4k or more time ten yrs or whatever would be super annoying tho. And a deal-breaker for many. But those herbs lasted me and I megadosing them only (worked better), not saying that's good or bad. Pine pollen I threw and got some really cheap stuff on Amazon Prime.

If we weren't so protectionistic and anti entrepreneurial I'd just buy Randro and 4 andro and pct and anavar if needed (pre Tei), under the table at some gym supplement store, but no, that's not possible.

 

[Trump_1776]

3 grand easily. Importing. Yes, it can be done cheaper. But like all problems, throwing money at it is the quickest solution. Could be worse.

And this city just built a moronic 8 MN dollar "bridge" (skywalk). Not sure how the hell that piece of shit cost 8 MN dollars. But that's how it is here. Trudeau Jr's ballet lessons and hair transplants are probably 19-22000 dollars. But after channelling it thru the taxpayers, it's like 99999 dollars.

Also bulk supps wasn't selling to me.
Tei is basically affordable. I mean same cost or less a bit more other shyt.

My rent went to 0 percent and soon maybe 50-60% of what it was or would be on East coast. So I can afford that stuff.

4k or more time ten yrs or whatever would be super annoying tho. And a deal-breaker for many. But those herbs lasted me and I megadosing them only (worked better), not saying that's good or bad. Pine pollen I threw and got some really cheap stuff on Amazon Prime.

If we weren't so protectionistic and anti entrepreneurial I'd just buy Randro and 4 andro and pct and anavar if needed (pre Tei), under the table at some gym supplement store, but no, that's not possible.

You did what with pine pollen

 

[MNK99]

not sure
/snorted it/

 

[raven]

Was eating some peanut butter nut bars that I didn't realise were full of sugar for a few days and completely fucked my gut up. Now my stomach aches in the evenings even after just eating a bowl of veg. Whatever happens I know my gut needs fixing cause this just isnt normal. Metronidazole has been ordered. Not sure I can get hands on paromomycin.

 

[raven]

400mg metronidazole 3x a day for 7 days, starting tomorrow

 

[raven]

Did my first yoga class today, anorgasmia and sensitivity much improved. Coincidence?

Was feeling real anxious in a crowded studio full of middle aged women but just gotta ride through that

 

[MNK99]

@raven, go commando next time. Report back.
Do you think yoga can increase focus? --I mean real yoga probably can, western yoga is different.... either or is good tho. not that I'm experienced in either.
2 guys told me they met their wife in yoga classes, and it changed their life, this and that. could be, who knows. sounds good.
a lot of weirdos/eccentrics/rich yuppies do it. might join a boxing gym if i find one. seeing aptmts rite now. annoying/ but got a friend to tell me the good buildings/ someone else drew me a map... I don't know/ got some showings. i kind of hate condos now... but i see little other choice.

my yoga mat, chairbed, kettlebell, desk chair, bar chair are in storage.... may have to sell or transport... or keep paying for basically an empty storage locker...

 

[raven]

@raven, go commando next time. Report back.
Do you think yoga can increase focus? --I mean real yoga probably can, western yoga is different.... either or is good tho. not that I'm experienced in either.
2 guys told me they met their wife in yoga classes, and it changed their life, this and that. could be, who knows. sounds good.
a lot of weirdos/eccentrics/rich yuppies do it. might join a boxing gym if i find one. seeing aptmts rite now. annoying/ but got a friend to tell me the good buildings/ someone else drew me a map... I don't know/ got some showings. i kind of hate condos now... but i see little other choice.

my yoga mat, chairbed, kettlebell, desk chair, bar chair are in storage.... may have to sell or transport... or keep paying for basically an empty storage locker...

I'm really inflexible so it can definitely help me with that, dunno about focus, a lot of it is similar to meditation so I guess so?

 

[MNK99]

---meditation... finally doing it a bit. --- just like only after uni (only after worst parts of pfs, other stuff too), i can do it.
-BUT* mostly at night to fall asleep. I used to morning and night... it's just it's a hard habit to make. it's good tho.
-i usually walked an hour after waking up or worked out then walked at night. - i think falling asleep to meditation (quick ones repeated), is what I should do.
-hid all electronics for a bit, helped. -I can picture and remember several meditations, but I like the Rapid Relaxation one from Meditainment. And there other ones are good too.

Yeah need a roller. I had one. My joints are probably less "locked" right now, but probably still a bit tense.

 

[Trump_1776]

Yoga... Only reason I'd attempt yoga is to see chicks in yoga pants.

 

[Niles]

Did my first yoga class today, anorgasmia and sensitivity much improved. Coincidence?

Was feeling real anxious in a crowded studio full of middle aged women but just gotta ride through that

Idk man, I've gotten spontaneous boners after yoga and during meditation before. Something about the deep breathing, blood flow, and de-stressing can sometimes really turn things around for me. Both yoga and meditation are important parts of my routine.