My DHT is low but still in the range. My estrogen is high above range. I don’t know about epinephrine, norepinephrine, gonadotropins or nitric oxide. I guess I should get those checked if possible. There are several PFS sufferers who cannot seem to reverse the shrinkage. For whatever reason, what works for some doesn’t work for others. So maybe something else is also contributing like receptor sensitivity issues. Not sure if ARL can help. I’m starting that this week...just waiting on supplements to arrive.
Reverse penile fibrosis and testicular shrinkage
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Your DHT has to be elevated long enough for the Receptors in the Penis to be saturated and local endothelial Nitric Oxide to be upregulated sufficiently. It also boosts nerve regeneration, but this requires Growth Hormone as well [Reference 1] [Reference 2].
I’m assuming ARL cannot help with this(?)
Should I put ARL on hold and find a way to substantially increase DHT and HGH? Not sure what that would be though...
I cannot recall instances where someone has cured fibrosis.
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Try enzymes specifically serrapeptase, which eats up fibrosis. There are reports on the forum of stronger erections when taking it too.
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That's a good idea, Bromelain might help too. Something like Garden of Life's Fruit Digestive Enzymes + Serrapeptase might synergistically Reduce Inflammation!
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Hello guys!
Here is a new update after a while from me:
First i wanna tell you that im really happy that there are still so many active people on this thread. A lot of new ideas has been written here the last weeks. My situation:
At the moment im on cdsnuts protocol for more than a week. I exercise a lot and and do a lot of pelvic floor exercises. I have a lot of more energy and definitely a better mood. For my PFS and my penile shrinkage things are still bad and maybe worse.
I also use a vacuum pump again daily for 10 minutes, just to achieve a full erection and to exercise my penile tissue. And when i started it i directly noticed one thing:
When i pump at full erection i can see a big lump on the base of the shape of my penis (i have photos if anyone is interested). I googled it and red a lot of things that this should be narrowing and scar tissue, which is the cause of the thinning and shrinkage.
This scared me a lot and i decided to do a new ultrasound test and mrt scan by an good urologist who i know.
But they couldnt recognized anything special. I DONT have the famous plaques in my penis, which experience a lot of peyronies disease patients.
But i also red alot that peyronies disease is not always happening with plaques...
My urologist told me that penile thinning and a hourglass form (in erect state) is always very hard and challenging to treat. Maybe impossible....
But i dont wanna give up and need to stop the shrinkage and maybe recover my size!
I appreciate a lot of your last posts, specially @Area-1255 .
Should i maybe try something of the stuff you recommended in your last posts? And what do you think about the P-Shot (PRP) to regain lost penile tissue?
Here is a new update after a while from me:
First i wanna tell you that im really happy that there are still so many active people on this thread. A lot of new ideas has been written here the last weeks. My situation:
At the moment im on cdsnuts protocol for more than a week. I exercise a lot and and do a lot of pelvic floor exercises. I have a lot of more energy and definitely a better mood. For my PFS and my penile shrinkage things are still bad and maybe worse.
I also use a vacuum pump again daily for 10 minutes, just to achieve a full erection and to exercise my penile tissue. And when i started it i directly noticed one thing:
When i pump at full erection i can see a big lump on the base of the shape of my penis (i have photos if anyone is interested). I googled it and red a lot of things that this should be narrowing and scar tissue, which is the cause of the thinning and shrinkage.
This scared me a lot and i decided to do a new ultrasound test and mrt scan by an good urologist who i know.
But they couldnt recognized anything special. I DONT have the famous plaques in my penis, which experience a lot of peyronies disease patients.
But i also red alot that peyronies disease is not always happening with plaques...
My urologist told me that penile thinning and a hourglass form (in erect state) is always very hard and challenging to treat. Maybe impossible....
But i dont wanna give up and need to stop the shrinkage and maybe recover my size!
I appreciate a lot of your last posts, specially @Area-1255 .
Should i maybe try something of the stuff you recommended in your last posts? And what do you think about the P-Shot (PRP) to regain lost penile tissue?
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Based on what I've read from anyone who's recovered from shrinkage, bending, plaques, etc., anything applied directly to that symptom is only a bandaid. That's not to say that bandaids are bad, but they only serve as partial and temporary solutions. Only takling the imbalance itself will yeild permanent results, and cdsnuts protocol is a proven way to do that. It sounds like you got good news from your urologist in terms of not having plaques, so I would def stick to cdsnuts protocol stricly until it starts to improve.
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Thanks for that sounds good!
You say that these are good news that I don't have plaques, but people say that the hourglass form and shrinkage is never caused by plaques. And that there is Peyronie's disease without any plaques.
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I say that because the shrinkage, hourglass, etc are all things that have been completely reversed by correcting imbalances at the heart of PFS, and it should be easier to recover soft tissue than to have to de-scar or de-calcify. I feel that doctors say hourglass and shrinkage are difficult to recover because they are probably caused by systemic imbalances that direct treatment of the symptom doesn't address.
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I get you, but for me to be honest it just doesn't sound logical that scarred tissue and a narrowing in penis can be "reversed" just by fixing the PFS imbalance. I think that fixing the tissue works not together with other PSSD symptoms.
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Check out Chi's recovery story, and many of the guys recovery stories over at swole source. All of them fixed their penile structural issues by correcting the PFS imbalance. Once you start to correct the imbalance, you start to get more regular blood flow and regeneration down there. Over time this will fix the situation. To be honest, I don't know of anyone who has fixed it by treating it specifically, and I've read a lot of PFS stories lol. Treating it specifically can only stabilize or temporarily improve the situation.
I’m one of the success stories who is seeing recovery in penile changes as I balance out. I will be posting my entire regiment when I’m positive it’s sticking , as I don’t want the stigma of being wrong. But my hourglass shape has recovered tremendously and size improvements continue.
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Well I still think for Calcification AND Penile fibrosis the idea is to make sure the Dopamine:Serotonin balance is necessary. Serotonin tends to promote all the bad shit and if you see the Studies on Serotonin and the Heart - it basically leads to Fibrosis, Valve issues etc. + Serotonin contributes GREATLY to NON-ADRENALINE related Pulmonary Hypertension! Given the concentration of Serotonin Receptors in the Penis that would make sense that its a high Priority...but then, having high Androgens limits the development or even reverses some aspects of this by facilitating the local Nitric-Oxide pathway.
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Thank you! Could you recommend me something new to try?
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TBH, I was extraordinarily lost in looking at that (TMO). I was too sick and too scatterbrained to process most of it.
I isolate myself and couldn't really get help, BC the people closest were kind of controlling/narcissistic and called me out on being crazy, etc... Till it was nearly too late and got help reluctantly, from some people close to me and they saw me getting better via water fasting, etc. Suicidal maybe 14-18 weeks ago, to 70-90 dips per day, a lot stronger and better but still working towards final resolution. I think various solutions will work for a lot of sufferers even if they don't really understand the science/logic
Behind it.
Only writing this bc maybe you had similar extreme confusion/brainfog, etc.
Now I could most, but there's other ways too. Fasting def helped me. Was extraordinarily sick - had to water fast.
And no digestion, suicidal ideation, etc... In that case barring skinniness etc, maybe fasting first, will make the rest seem much more easier /manageable.
A lot of the other stuff I did for like a decade, fasting, HIIT's, carb-backloading, etc. I'm sure a lot of fit people did pre-pfs/pas/pssd. Impossible at time due to the "labotomized" aspect of all this. And inability to eat, shower, stand. Looking back at this and other things enrages me.
Detox, refeed, workouts, right type of diet, herbs and workout/diet, prohormones workout/diet, herbs for pct, penis exercises, spirulina, etc.
Not to shortchange his work, I'm saying the gist seems something like that. Mostly, good advice, I was too lost and ruined to make sense of it initially and was dealing with other health issues anyways pre PFS, and have already been thru a lot of this bs (recovery from drug caused fucking bullshit), so I was devestated. There's logs or was on swole-source and on here.
As per this issue, I don't know, something about cleansing, rebuilding, fitness, making oneself more androgenic, I think. Reversing fibrosis, shrinkage, as part of overall process of starting with a clean slate and rebuilding optimal health. Hopefully, semi-useful, I'm out.
I isolate myself and couldn't really get help, BC the people closest were kind of controlling/narcissistic and called me out on being crazy, etc... Till it was nearly too late and got help reluctantly, from some people close to me and they saw me getting better via water fasting, etc. Suicidal maybe 14-18 weeks ago, to 70-90 dips per day, a lot stronger and better but still working towards final resolution. I think various solutions will work for a lot of sufferers even if they don't really understand the science/logic
Behind it.
Only writing this bc maybe you had similar extreme confusion/brainfog, etc.
Now I could most, but there's other ways too. Fasting def helped me. Was extraordinarily sick - had to water fast.
And no digestion, suicidal ideation, etc... In that case barring skinniness etc, maybe fasting first, will make the rest seem much more easier /manageable.
A lot of the other stuff I did for like a decade, fasting, HIIT's, carb-backloading, etc. I'm sure a lot of fit people did pre-pfs/pas/pssd. Impossible at time due to the "labotomized" aspect of all this. And inability to eat, shower, stand. Looking back at this and other things enrages me.
Detox, refeed, workouts, right type of diet, herbs and workout/diet, prohormones workout/diet, herbs for pct, penis exercises, spirulina, etc.
Not to shortchange his work, I'm saying the gist seems something like that. Mostly, good advice, I was too lost and ruined to make sense of it initially and was dealing with other health issues anyways pre PFS, and have already been thru a lot of this bs (recovery from drug caused fucking bullshit), so I was devestated. There's logs or was on swole-source and on here.
As per this issue, I don't know, something about cleansing, rebuilding, fitness, making oneself more androgenic, I think. Reversing fibrosis, shrinkage, as part of overall process of starting with a clean slate and rebuilding optimal health. Hopefully, semi-useful, I'm out.
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I would like to say something. I am suffering from a mild form of Peyronie's disease. I haven't got "hard plaque", but only a fibrotic tissue area of 5 mm x 1.4 mm . So it's little, but it's enough to bring me some problems - like Erectyle Disfunction. No deformations.
I read about many people here who claim "stories" of getting cured with some protocols found online, people that got rid of their plaques, their fibrosis, their ED.
Now, even if i don't really believe them, i would NEVER tell anyone that he or them are liars before hear what they have to say.
Despite this, if anyone knows how to get cured from an incurable disease like Peyronie's, i think that he has a moral obligation to share this, which can save millions of people around the world. To make this possible, "a succesful story from a far friend of mine" it's not enough. You have to PROVE it. Did you have official report of an ultrasound showing a plaque and, after the protocol, another ultrasound that shows that you're totally cured? If yes, please, share it, and prove what you're saying. If what you're saying is true, you should not have any problem to do that. (you can cover your name if you don't want to reveal yourself). You should also provide some photos of your erect penis before the cure and after the cure. That would be a good proof.
But if your only proofs are "a succesful story i heard", i Strongly encourage you to SHUT UP and stop giving false hopes to people who are really struggling with this disease.
As i said, i am not attacking anyone, i always start from the idea that everyone is honest - but it's a moral duty to give some proof of what you say, if you say that you found a cure for something not curable. I hope you'll understand.
That said, i'll wait for ANYONE showing a REAL PROOF of people getting cured from Peyronie's disease (or Induratio Penis Plastica, which is fibrotic tissue in the penis) and, if you'll provide proofs, i'll follow you gladly and i will share your word to cure others.
Thank you really much, best regards to all!
I read about many people here who claim "stories" of getting cured with some protocols found online, people that got rid of their plaques, their fibrosis, their ED.
Now, even if i don't really believe them, i would NEVER tell anyone that he or them are liars before hear what they have to say.
Despite this, if anyone knows how to get cured from an incurable disease like Peyronie's, i think that he has a moral obligation to share this, which can save millions of people around the world. To make this possible, "a succesful story from a far friend of mine" it's not enough. You have to PROVE it. Did you have official report of an ultrasound showing a plaque and, after the protocol, another ultrasound that shows that you're totally cured? If yes, please, share it, and prove what you're saying. If what you're saying is true, you should not have any problem to do that. (you can cover your name if you don't want to reveal yourself). You should also provide some photos of your erect penis before the cure and after the cure. That would be a good proof.
But if your only proofs are "a succesful story i heard", i Strongly encourage you to SHUT UP and stop giving false hopes to people who are really struggling with this disease.
As i said, i am not attacking anyone, i always start from the idea that everyone is honest - but it's a moral duty to give some proof of what you say, if you say that you found a cure for something not curable. I hope you'll understand.
That said, i'll wait for ANYONE showing a REAL PROOF of people getting cured from Peyronie's disease (or Induratio Penis Plastica, which is fibrotic tissue in the penis) and, if you'll provide proofs, i'll follow you gladly and i will share your word to cure others.
Thank you really much, best regards to all!
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I Surfer from penible permanent shrinkage in Form of hourglass too. I have lost a lot of Inches in girth and length. But mi MRI/MRT -Test or ultrasound could ever recognize any plaques in My case.
Next step for this will be the "Russian DHT Titan Gel 50%".
If i get real improvements in tissue growing from this than People Must believe because there Are no Information in My case to Proof anything...