Great news. I am four days off progesterone and I'm feeling pretty good. I'd say about 80% normal on all fronts at least. I stopped progesterone on Friday. Seemed like everything decreased a bit over the weekend but Monday and today if feel good. I sure hope this sticks. As long as this doesn't change, I don't think I'm going to run another progesterone cycle. I really think this combo has made a big difference. In fact if I could just stay like this, I'd be satisfied. I hate to overstate the results but I think this regimen could be key in recovery. I am doing half tab of Selegiline every morning to control prolactin. I started Creatine on Sunday and that possibly could be helping too.
RU + Progesterone Cycle (PFS, PSSD)
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Great news. I am four days off progesterone and I'm feeling pretty good. I'd say about 80% normal on all fronts at least. I stopped progesterone on Friday. Seemed like everything decreased a bit over the weekend but Monday and today if feel good. I sure hope this sticks. As long as this doesn't change, I don't think I'm going to run another progesterone cycle. I really think this combo has made a big difference. In fact if I could just stay like this, I'd be satisfied. I hate to overstate the results but I think this regimen could be key in recovery. I am doing half tab of Selegiline every morning to control prolactin. I started Creatine on Sunday and that possibly could be helping too.
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Don’t want to push you into running prog again, but any reason why not? Might be smart to do so again beginning tomorrow (4 days off like “Light at the end”) because RU is still definitely affecting your system.
This combo is pretty freakin awesome lol.
Yea maybe.... I thought I was feeling things fade a day or two before stopping the progesterone and now I feel a snap back improvement so I thought if this continues, I didn't want to rock the boat. And I thought you weren't going to do another round. And I've had some hair loss the past two weeks. I actually did feel GREAT couple days into the progesterone. Very strong libido and MW. I agree that this regimen is very promising. I think it would be great if more guys tried it to get more feed back on the protocol.
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AWESOME MAN! This is what "elb", "light at the end", "beekay" all described on propeciahelp! When you get off the prog, you have some sort of a snapback. Then they would go back on prog 4 days later. Sometimes going back on it would cause them to crash a little bit or decline a little bit, but each of these guys did these cycles for a few months and were cured eventually! They got better and better each cycle.
And yea- I woke up with such strong wood this morning and how I felt last night/today. I mean- I want to give this a shot. A couple cycles at least. So I changed my mind this morning. Also going on vacation in 17 days and don't want to mess with the "balancing" supps until after that. Might as well keep doing prog cycle and make use of that RU cycle!
Yea maybe I should start another cycle of progesterone tomorrow. I just feel pretty good right now and maybe it will continue to improve. It's difficult to know for sure what to do. But I totally agree that this protocol works. I think it has totally helped cure more guys than any other. I actually did the progesterone protocol last May for a few months. Initially I had significant improvement. This faded over time. I was pretty inconsistent with it and would take for much longer than 14days. Maybe it's important to not take for too long before stopping for the snap back. I think the RU helps reset something that's needed.
Still feeling pretty normal. Good libido, morning wood, mood. I've been actually feeling really good the past three days and today would be the first day to restart progesterone.. I had been doing 10mg topically. I think I might do 5mg for 7 days.
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Good stuff. Where are you applying it to? I'm doing testicles. Rectum is great too. Best absorption down there lol.
Scrotum... I think it may be important to not apply to tissue that has subcutaneous fat as the hormone may accumulate and then the four days off is really not off time if progesterone is being released. That may be one reason for failure for this protocol for some guys. On propeciahelp there were some guys that totally felt bad and it didn't work, even made them worse according to some posts. I wonder if they did RU course before, if it would have worked. Do you know who else is doing this protocol and their results??
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@Jack17 Also, I have some pretty shitty negative side effects from progesterone but I realize that you need to go backwards to go forwards and my biggest concern currently is sexuality. So I understand why some guys would quit it.
If you're only issue is sexuality, or just like minimal brain fog and fatigue with the PFS then this is just something great I believe. I get light sensitivity from prog (lowered cortisol), wake up feeling crappier, and get fatigued more easily. Is what it is. I chose these couple weeks to do it because I don't have much going on.
This morning wasn't as good and last night wasn't great but I had my first workout in a month last night and was toasted. Just ate a really good nutritious lunch and libido showing its head again.
If you're only issue is sexuality, or just like minimal brain fog and fatigue with the PFS then this is just something great I believe. I get light sensitivity from prog (lowered cortisol), wake up feeling crappier, and get fatigued more easily. Is what it is. I chose these couple weeks to do it because I don't have much going on.
This morning wasn't as good and last night wasn't great but I had my first workout in a month last night and was toasted. Just ate a really good nutritious lunch and libido showing its head again.
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There was one dude on propeciahelp applying it to his NECK! Lol. Started having thyroid/parathyroid issues... hmm, wonder why that could be?
Just some thoughts about this syndrome. IMO, I think the electrolyte protocols, supplements probably help create a more normal environment to help promote a more natural recovery, but I think the natural recovery pathway may take years depending how severe the case. It seems that the hormone stuff like progesterone Ru may help reset something. It's very complicated syndrome and the exact mechanism causing this disorder remains unclear although there are several candidates, in my opinion. I think there is probably a spectrum of symptoms that are likely related to severity of illness. I remember when this first happened 15 months ago, I would get a racing heart rate for no reason. I have never had any issue with anxiety but I found myself worrying about everything. Just lying in bed my heart rate would go up to like 110 when I should be falling asleep. That improved and for the past six months or so my symptoms have been slight and fluctuating brain fog/ clarity of thought and the sexual side effects. The sexual stuff is extremely frustrating. I have had better and worse weeks but with this latest progesterone run I definitely think I am close to recovery and feel like something has reset. I hate to say that because next week I could be worse and regret thinking I was getting better. I would definitely encourage others to try this regimen.
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@Jack17 @Goose12 @Chapman man I wish more people were paying attention to this log. This is so great you've responded so well to this.
I mean quite a few dudes did well with prog cycling. This just makes too much sense. I feel horrible today, slept like really badly (not from PFS- just being an idiot pretty much), but I still got solid PFS libido.
I feel like one day this could be a prescribed treatment. Esspecially for those not too badly mentally affected. Its funny legit within 10 mins my fatigue gets worse of application, but drinking coffee (I normally don't) has been helping.
LOL we'll call this an RU/prog/mucuna/coffee cycle.
I mean quite a few dudes did well with prog cycling. This just makes too much sense. I feel horrible today, slept like really badly (not from PFS- just being an idiot pretty much), but I still got solid PFS libido.
I feel like one day this could be a prescribed treatment. Esspecially for those not too badly mentally affected. Its funny legit within 10 mins my fatigue gets worse of application, but drinking coffee (I normally don't) has been helping.
LOL we'll call this an RU/prog/mucuna/coffee cycle.
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@bruschi11 do you think id be okay starting progesterone after coming off ella rather than ru, they're similar right? I'd be happy to contribute plus it gives me something constructive to do while I wait to start my fast.
I think doing progesterone after Ella is fine. I actually did Ella beginning of February. I ran RU end of Feb and then jumped on this progesterone regimen.
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that is awesome man!
Funny!... Yea, I immediately felt a little lower after the progesterone two hours ago. I don't think it's in my head and I know this is all a process. I think it's important to take something to keep prolactin under control. I'm taking Selegiline (low dose 2.5mg) and just took some inositol. I may get some Mucuna. I'm also thinking I may cycle this with 7 days of progesterone and then 7 days off next time. I think at the 7 day progesterone point things started fading a bit. I think it's important to experiment with this protocol.
Good luck!!Ok lads I've just ordered some