aztec post_id=310 time=1507251683 user_id=52 said:Thanks for the post 5 alpha. It looks like ru 486 by itself is the correct way to go. Just ordered mine.
aztec post_id=316 time=1507253650 user_id=52 said:I got the 3 pills my boy.
Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.IHateFin post_id=304 time=1507249970 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=298 time=1507248001 user_id=51 said:No. See my post above. Gbolduev will confirm this. Ru is to make progesterone sensitive and this cannot happen if you take progesterone with it.IHateFin post_id=272 time=1507237296 user_id=48 said:What if taking high dose progesterone like 20mg plus is the best route while taking ru? If ru antagonizes receptors only in the presence of prog then maybe we need to supply prog? Seems counter productive, but it would guarantee that it will only make receptors more sensitive as opposed to also slightly activating them! No?
Just an idea.
Well actually that's not true, my friend. Gboldev has stated "ru will work based on. Progesterone levels both agonizing or antagonizing the receptor depending on the presence of progesterone. In the presence of progesterone it antagonizes the receptor. With low prog the receptors are agonized with ru"
Snell1234 post_id=333 time=1507257132 user_id=51 said:Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.IHateFin post_id=304 time=1507249970 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=298 time=1507248001 user_id=51 said:No. See my post above. Gbolduev will confirm this. Ru is to make progesterone sensitive and this cannot happen if you take progesterone with it.
Well actually that's not true, my friend. Gboldev has stated "ru will work based on. Progesterone levels both agonizing or antagonizing the receptor depending on the presence of progesterone. In the presence of progesterone it antagonizes the receptor. With low prog the receptors are agonized with ru"
Get gbold to confirm if you don't believe me.
IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=333 time=1507257132 user_id=51 said:Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.IHateFin post_id=304 time=1507249970 user_id=48 said:Well actually that's not true, my friend. Gboldev has stated "ru will work based on. Progesterone levels both agonizing or antagonizing the receptor depending on the presence of progesterone. In the presence of progesterone it antagonizes the receptor. With low prog the receptors are agonized with ru"
Get gbold to confirm if you don't believe me.
i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.
Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=333 time=1507257132 user_id=51 said:Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.
Get gbold to confirm if you don't believe me.
i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.
How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?
IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.
How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?
today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.
TubZy post_id=354 time=1507262862 user_id=2 said:IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?
today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.
You try caber yet? Supposedly it is stronger than metergoline. How is your adrenaline though? Do you feel on edge a lot of faster heart rate?
IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.
How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?
today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.
IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?
today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.
gbolduev post_id=362 time=1507264910 user_id=90 said:Why are you all talking about this drug and its effects now. You are not off the drug yet even. Lets have clean trials.
You take aniprogestin and then you start fighting its effects while you are on it?
IHateFin post_id=357 time=1507263290 user_id=48 said:TubZy post_id=354 time=1507262862 user_id=2 said:IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.
You try caber yet? Supposedly it is stronger than metergoline. How is your adrenaline though? Do you feel on edge a lot of faster heart rate?
nah havent tried caber yet. i have a shit ton of it tho lol i just worry about those sides. literally trying everything to avoid it as its my absolute last resort. i just downed 6grams of inositol too and took 2 more drops of meter. i only took 4 drops of meter in the morning.
adrenaline feels fine. heart rate doesnt seem to elevate randomly. you still feeling adrenaline?
gbolduev post_id=362 time=1507264910 user_id=90 said:Why are you all talking about this drug and its effects now. You are not off the drug yet even. Lets have clean trials.
You take aniprogestin and then you start fighting its effects while you are on it?
Is there any chance the adrenaline feeling could be low estrogen? Low estrogen can do a lot of similar things, like the racing heart and anxiety and feeling on edge.TubZy post_id=354 time=1507262862 user_id=2 said:IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?
today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.
You try caber yet? Supposedly it is stronger than metergoline. How is your adrenaline though? Do you feel on edge a lot of faster heart rate?
gbolduev post_id=362 time=1507264910 user_id=90 said:Why are you all talking about this drug and its effects now. You are not off the drug yet even. Lets have clean trials.
You take aniprogestin and then you start fighting its effects while you are on it?