RU Trials continued

aztec

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Thanks for the post 5 alpha. It looks like ru 486 by itself is the correct way to go. Just ordered mine.
 

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aztec post_id=310 time=1507251683 user_id=52 said:
Thanks for the post 5 alpha. It looks like ru 486 by itself is the correct way to go. Just ordered mine.


Nice! You get the 6 pills or the 3? Either way you can run a great cycle with
 

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aztec post_id=316 time=1507253650 user_id=52 said:
I got the 3 pills my boy.

nice, man! that is still more than enough for at least 2 good cycles depending on the dosages you choose.

maybe you could do a short cycle trial like I did of like 3 days at 50mg a day if you wanted to dip your toe in the water n see how ya feel after a week or two later. this would help keep prolactin sides from coming no doubt, but either way you will get benefits from it, but the longer you run it the more likely prolactin will hit you. it seems to have gotten myself, tubzy and joekool. we have all decided to take some kind of prolactin lowering drug for it tho.
 

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Thanks dude! I appreciate all your help. I will take small doses to try it out and do a short cycle to test the waters. You guys have pumped me up a lot. Can’t wait to see your results.
 

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IHateFin post_id=304 time=1507249970 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=298 time=1507248001 user_id=51 said:
IHateFin post_id=272 time=1507237296 user_id=48 said:
What if taking high dose progesterone like 20mg plus is the best route while taking ru? If ru antagonizes receptors only in the presence of prog then maybe we need to supply prog? Seems counter productive, but it would guarantee that it will only make receptors more sensitive as opposed to also slightly activating them! No?

Just an idea.
No. See my post above. Gbolduev will confirm this. Ru is to make progesterone sensitive and this cannot happen if you take progesterone with it.

Well actually that's not true, my friend. Gboldev has stated "ru will work based on. Progesterone levels both agonizing or antagonizing the receptor depending on the presence of progesterone. In the presence of progesterone it antagonizes the receptor. With low prog the receptors are agonized with ru"
Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.

Get gbold to confirm if you don't believe me.
 

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Snell1234 post_id=333 time=1507257132 user_id=51 said:
IHateFin post_id=304 time=1507249970 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=298 time=1507248001 user_id=51 said:
No. See my post above. Gbolduev will confirm this. Ru is to make progesterone sensitive and this cannot happen if you take progesterone with it.

Well actually that's not true, my friend. Gboldev has stated "ru will work based on. Progesterone levels both agonizing or antagonizing the receptor depending on the presence of progesterone. In the presence of progesterone it antagonizes the receptor. With low prog the receptors are agonized with ru"
Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.

Get gbold to confirm if you don't believe me.

i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.
 

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IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=333 time=1507257132 user_id=51 said:
IHateFin post_id=304 time=1507249970 user_id=48 said:
Well actually that's not true, my friend. Gboldev has stated "ru will work based on. Progesterone levels both agonizing or antagonizing the receptor depending on the presence of progesterone. In the presence of progesterone it antagonizes the receptor. With low prog the receptors are agonized with ru"
Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.

Get gbold to confirm if you don't believe me.

i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.

How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?
 

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Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:
IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=333 time=1507257132 user_id=51 said:
Sorry you are completely incorrect. You will not make your progesterone sensitive after coming off RU if you add in progesterone. I know how RU works based on progesterone levels. Adding progesterone ruins what you are trying to do.

Get gbold to confirm if you don't believe me.

i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.

How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?

today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.
 

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IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:
IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:
i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.

How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?

today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.

You try caber yet? Supposedly it is stronger than metergoline. How is your adrenaline though? Do you feel on edge a lot of faster heart rate?
 

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TubZy post_id=354 time=1507262862 user_id=2 said:
IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:
How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?

today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.

You try caber yet? Supposedly it is stronger than metergoline. How is your adrenaline though? Do you feel on edge a lot of faster heart rate?

nah havent tried caber yet. i have a shit ton of it tho lol i just worry about those sides. literally trying everything to avoid it as its my absolute last resort. i just downed 6grams of inositol too and took 2 more drops of meter. i only took 4 drops of meter in the morning.

adrenaline feels fine. heart rate doesnt seem to elevate randomly. you still feeling adrenaline?
 

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IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:
IHateFin post_id=346 time=1507260791 user_id=48 said:
i dont get how that would be the case lol i see where you are coming from, but if high prog means ru will anatagonizes the receptors (make them sensative) then adding it to the ru cycle would mean that once you drop prog and take another day or two of ru you will 100% have more sensative receptors.
adding ru means prog will have no choice but to get antagonized. my first cycle i took 5adhp and i had faster and better benefits from that one than this one. still too soon to say but so far my first cycle better and who knows maybe the fact that i took a progestin with it actually helped me.

How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?

today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.

dam..i did not realize that you where having this big of an issue with prolactin. It has to be it seeing that you did way better on your 3 day cycle

Is tubz and Jkool having this bad of issues?
 

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Why are you all talking about this drug and its effects now. You are not off the drug yet even. Lets have clean trials.
You take aniprogestin and then you start fighting its effects while you are on it?
 

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[quote="5 alpha" post_id=361 time=1507264165 user_id=57]
IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:
How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?

today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.

dam..i did not realize that you where having this big of an issue with prolactin. It has to be it seeing that you did way better on your 3 day cycle

Is tubz and Jkool having this bad of issues?
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tubz did say he was feeling the same sides and i think joe did as well
 

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gbolduev post_id=362 time=1507264910 user_id=90 said:
Why are you all talking about this drug and its effects now. You are not off the drug yet even. Lets have clean trials.
You take aniprogestin and then you start fighting its effects while you are on it?

after reading your quote about high if prolactin is not adress it could cause downregulation again i felt i should address the sides. the headaches were bad too.
 

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IHateFin post_id=357 time=1507263290 user_id=48 said:
TubZy post_id=354 time=1507262862 user_id=2 said:
IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:
today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.

You try caber yet? Supposedly it is stronger than metergoline. How is your adrenaline though? Do you feel on edge a lot of faster heart rate?

nah havent tried caber yet. i have a shit ton of it tho lol i just worry about those sides. literally trying everything to avoid it as its my absolute last resort. i just downed 6grams of inositol too and took 2 more drops of meter. i only took 4 drops of meter in the morning.

adrenaline feels fine. heart rate doesnt seem to elevate randomly. you still feeling adrenaline?

Just for the info, Inosital can cause dhiarrea :lol:
 

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gbolduev post_id=362 time=1507264910 user_id=90 said:
Why are you all talking about this drug and its effects now. You are not off the drug yet even. Lets have clean trials.
You take aniprogestin and then you start fighting its effects while you are on it?

Can you be clear. Are you saying not to take an anti prolactin on this or post it, or are you referring to something else?
 

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TubZy post_id=354 time=1507262862 user_id=2 said:
IHateFin post_id=349 time=1507261572 user_id=48 said:
Snell1234 post_id=348 time=1507261353 user_id=51 said:
How long have you been off now? Have you had any improvement in recent days?

today is day 5 off and i have not seen much improvements cuz i have been plagued with prolactin sides. i am now barely attempting to get that shit in control lol so taking long to adress prolactin may have just ruined my whole 2nd ru cycle to be honest, but its still early. today my mood was better after taking some metergoline.

You try caber yet? Supposedly it is stronger than metergoline. How is your adrenaline though? Do you feel on edge a lot of faster heart rate?
Is there any chance the adrenaline feeling could be low estrogen? Low estrogen can do a lot of similar things, like the racing heart and anxiety and feeling on edge.
 

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gbolduev post_id=362 time=1507264910 user_id=90 said:
Why are you all talking about this drug and its effects now. You are not off the drug yet even. Lets have clean trials.
You take aniprogestin and then you start fighting its effects while you are on it?

It would be really helpful if you could set out a day schedule with what to take and what amounts.

e.g. Day 1 Ru (amount)
Day 2 Ru (amount)
Day 3 etc
Day 4
Day 5
Day 6
Day 7

Post cabergoline (amount) or whether it is necessary at all, co factors (list them exactly, amount) etc.

If you do this, there won't be any confusion and there won't be any need for clean trials. People still aren't exactly clear on what to do post. I know it's experimental and you don't know, but if you could give a guide like this in one post it probably stops all the questioning of you on it too.