RU Trials continued

[Jaxx]

Great to see the posting activity going back up! How sure are you guys this is high prolactin and not high progrsterone?

 

[bruschi11]

Ihate FIN. I remember last time you took RU, you were constantly improving after you got off.

How long have you guys been off of this thing now?

The guy who took Ella, did not seem to experience bad sides at all. May be dosages are important here

We never tested RU. SO we are going by your previous snap back and improvements. May be it was the cofactors that worked well last time


Another thing I am thinking about. May be cortisol is getting too high and this was a difference between your first cycle and this one. In previous one it was only progesterone mostly that got effected and in this one cortisol was effected more.

May be that is why the guy on Ella did not experience any of these sides. Since Ella did not touch his cortisol.

I don't like this difference of your first trial and this one.

He only went like 3 days during his first trial. The guys all did 6-8 days I believe this time. Is it possible shorter could be better?

 

[Snell1234]

Ihate FIN. I remember last time you took RU, you were constantly improving after you got off.

How long have you guys been off of this thing now?

The guy who took Ella, did not seem to experience bad sides at all. May be dosages are important here

We never tested RU. SO we are going by your previous snap back and improvements. May be it was the cofactors that worked well last time


Another thing I am thinking about. May be cortisol is getting too high and this was a difference between your first cycle and this one. In previous one it was only progesterone mostly that got effected and in this one cortisol was effected more.

May be that is why the guy on Ella did not experience any of these sides. Since Ella did not touch his cortisol.

Can you explain what you mean by this - by cortisol getting too high. I thought RU486 turned off cortisol?

 

[TubZy]

Ihate FIN. I remember last time you took RU, you were constantly improving after you got off.

How long have you guys been off of this thing now?

The guy who took Ella, did not seem to experience bad sides at all. May be dosages are important here

We never tested RU. SO we are going by your previous snap back and improvements. May be it was the cofactors that worked well last time


Another thing I am thinking about. May be cortisol is getting too high and this was a difference between your first cycle and this one. In previous one it was only progesterone mostly that got effected and in this one cortisol was effected more.

May be that is why the guy on Ella did not experience any of these sides. Since Ella did not touch his cortisol.

I don't like this difference of your first trial and this one.

If that was the case, it may even make more sense adding in caber/metergoline directly post RU instead of waiting which will lower both cortisol and prolactin.

 

[Helen]

we are still trying this out. no one knows how these substances act exactly. We know what we want from them.

Basically RU effects progesterone same as ulipristal, but ru blocks cortisol which increases dopamine to adrenaline conversions, I guess. in some caser this will cause prolactin to rise.

We need to figure out, if Ella will work on its own and cortisol upgregulation wont be needed
I am not sure about that.

All we know that Ihatefin took this for 3 days and then went off, and started to get improvements that lasted further same as this other guy who took Ella.

So I think may be RU blocks cortisol so much that it wont release it for while. And this causes too much adrenaline converions and causes prolactin to rise.

In this case I would assume it will take time and it will snap back.

 

[aztec]

I am curious if a 3 day ru 486 cycle at 50 mg per day is the best idea? Let’s keep this thread going guys.

 

[Snell1234]

we are still trying this out. no one knows how these substances act exactly. We know what we want from them.

Basically RU effects progesterone same as ulipristal, but ru blocks cortisol which increases dopamine to adrenaline conversions, I guess. in some caser this will cause prolactin to rise.

We need to figure out, if Ella will work on its own and cortisol upgregulation wont be needed
I am not sure about that.

All we know that Ihatefin took this for 3 days and then went off, and started to get improvements that lasted further same as this other guy who took Ella.

So I think may be RU blocks cortisol so much that it wont release it for while. And this causes too much adrenaline converions and causes prolactin to rise.

In this case I would assume it will take time and it will snap back.

Maybe a lower dose of ru would be better then? Say 25mg compared to 50 or 100

 

[wuf]

we are still trying this out. no one knows how these substances act exactly. We know what we want from them.

Basically RU effects progesterone same as ulipristal, but ru blocks cortisol which increases dopamine to adrenaline conversions, I guess. in some caser this will cause prolactin to rise.

We need to figure out, if Ella will work on its own and cortisol upgregulation wont be needed
I am not sure about that.

All we know that Ihatefin took this for 3 days and then went off, and started to get improvements that lasted further same as this other guy who took Ella.

So I think may be RU blocks cortisol so much that it wont release it for while. And this causes too much adrenaline converions and causes prolactin to rise.

In this case I would assume it will take time and it will snap back.

If this is the case, I would think to have different cycles on a low dose like 25 mg for like 3 days, wait for the snap back and only then run another cycle..could it make sense?

 

[TubZy]

we are still trying this out. no one knows how these substances act exactly. We know what we want from them.

Basically RU effects progesterone same as ulipristal, but ru blocks cortisol which increases dopamine to adrenaline conversions, I guess. in some caser this will cause prolactin to rise.

We need to figure out, if Ella will work on its own and cortisol upgregulation wont be needed
I am not sure about that.

All we know that Ihatefin took this for 3 days and then went off, and started to get improvements that lasted further same as this other guy who took Ella.

So I think may be RU blocks cortisol so much that it wont release it for while. And this causes too much adrenaline converions and causes prolactin to rise,

In this case I would assume it will take time and it will snap back.

The cortisol part you mentioned it exactly what I was thinking. My cortisol doesn't feel like it is turned on yet because I still have adrenaline like sides just like while I was taking RU.

 

[wuf]

we are still trying this out. no one knows how these substances act exactly. We know what we want from them.

Basically RU effects progesterone same as ulipristal, but ru blocks cortisol which increases dopamine to adrenaline conversions, I guess. in some caser this will cause prolactin to rise.

We need to figure out, if Ella will work on its own and cortisol upgregulation wont be needed
I am not sure about that.

All we know that Ihatefin took this for 3 days and then went off, and started to get improvements that lasted further same as this other guy who took Ella.

So I think may be RU blocks cortisol so much that it wont release it for while. And this causes too much adrenaline converions and causes prolactin to rise,

In this case I would assume it will take time and it will snap back.

The cortisol part you mentioned it exactly what I was thinking. My cortisol doesn't feel like it is turned on yet because I still have adrenaline like sides just like while I was taking RU.

What the adrenalines sides make you feel like, I don't get, how do yyou recognize it?

 

[aztec]

Is anyone about to start ru 486 today or tomorrow? Trying out different dosages might be very helpful.

 

[wuf]

Is anyone about to start ru 486 today or tomorrow? Trying out different dosages might be very helpful.

I don't know if is something to take in mind but the guy who got cured in around 10 days from Ella, used 6 days 5mg/day regimen.
Guys who runned RU, runned 50 to 100 mg per day of RU..
Maybe the low dose could be an option to try?

 

[Snell1234]

What is Ella exactly? How does it work and is it for pfs or Pssd?

 

[TubZy]

we are still trying this out. no one knows how these substances act exactly. We know what we want from them.

Basically RU effects progesterone same as ulipristal, but ru blocks cortisol which increases dopamine to adrenaline conversions, I guess. in some caser this will cause prolactin to rise.

We need to figure out, if Ella will work on its own and cortisol upgregulation wont be needed
I am not sure about that.

All we know that Ihatefin took this for 3 days and then went off, and started to get improvements that lasted further same as this other guy who took Ella.

So I think may be RU blocks cortisol so much that it wont release it for while. And this causes too much adrenaline converions and causes prolactin to rise,

In this case I would assume it will take time and it will snap back.

The cortisol part you mentioned it exactly what I was thinking. My cortisol doesn't feel like it is turned on yet because I still have adrenaline like sides just like while I was taking RU.

What the adrenalines sides make you feel like, I don't get, how do yyou recognize it?

Heart racing faster, restlessness, harder to fall asleep, more short fused etc.

 

[aztec]

Is anyone about to start ru 486 today or tomorrow? Trying out different dosages might be very helpful.

I don't know if is something to take in mind but the guy who got cured in around 10 days from Ella, used 6 days 5mg/day regimen.
Guys who runned RU, runned 50 to 100 mg per day of RU..
Maybe the low dose could be an option to try?

That is interesting wuf! Was that guy taking anything else during the Ella cycle? Did he use cabergoline or metergoline to control prolactin? Have you spoken to him? He had psf?

 

[TubZy]

We found that 100mg was too much, you started to feel like crap when taking 100m, but maybe if you take a dose that high the cycle should be much shorter. 50mg seems to he the sweet spot, however I did not try 25mg but I think ihatefin did.

 

[wuf]

What is Ella exactly? How does it work and is it for pfs or Pssd?

Google it.. it acts on progesterone and not on cortisol (gbolduev said)

 

[wuf]

Is anyone about to start ru 486 today or tomorrow? Trying out different dosages might be very helpful.

I don't know if is something to take in mind but the guy who got cured in around 10 days from Ella, used 6 days 5mg/day regimen.
Guys who runned RU, runned 50 to 100 mg per day of RU..
Maybe the low dose could be an option to try?

That is interesting wuf! Was that guy taking anything else during the Ella cycle? Did he use cabergoline or metergoline to control prolactin? Have you spoken to him? He had psf?

No, I didnt speak with him, you can read it on the PSSD section and link to his story.. that's what I read and he claimed to be cured in around 10 days or something more...

 

[Snell1234]

What is Ella exactly? How does it work and is it for pfs or Pssd?

Google it.. it acts on progesterone and not on cortisol (gbolduev said)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3356949/

This suggests it acts on cortisol

 

[aztec]

That is exciting news wuf. Thanks for sharing that.