RWAC's PFS log (on the TEI train)

[RebelWithACause]

Dairy : anti-androgenic dioxins, opioid effect, casein as an adhesive agent sticking to the gut layers.
Exposure to exogenous estrogen through intake of commercial milk produced from pregnant cows. - PubMed - NCBI

don't know if it could explain it as other studies tends to point towards dairy being androgenic

Interesting. Since this is raw dairy maybe it contains more of the bad shit too.

Or I just cannot handle so much calcium. Some days I would drink 2 liters of yoghurt/kefir. Lol.

 

[K8668B]

Was just thinking about this.

People shit on unconfident people. That is the way it goes. And in PFS I saw people disrespecting me daily. I hated this feeling. This was the worst feeling of all. Worse than not having a libido and all the other shit. Yes I am serious about that!

Now that I am back to normal/doing OK people lower their head when I look at them. People are intimidated all of a sudden. They do not have the balls anymore to say the shit they used to say. Or to bump into me constantly.

I do not bully people. Especially if they are weak. I do not like bullies. But experiencing the fact that people shit on you. Talk shit to you on a daily basis can make you JADED. And want revenge. I was very angry for a while because of these experiences. I wonder if other people in PFS also experienced this.

I think part of it was in my own head. I was anxious and depressed. So everything can seem darker. But it is weird that people treated me so badly. Because they definitely treat me different now.

I learned a lot from it. You see human nature in full throttle. We are still animals after all. And if you are weak the only real friend you have is yourself. And maybe the guys from Hackstasis .

I know all about this!- They truly kick you when youre down. (PFS state). I've have some bad shit happen to me, in 10+ years. Cheap ass cowards. But alot of times, when i have a good day, which i had many in 2017, (feeling like pre-pfs,), they will be intimidated by you. You have the power. But thats just "normal". Hahah. its fascinating though.

 

[MNK99]

When I was a kid the fattest heffer was dancing with a dumbass/drunk friend, he went out to smoke or something, she made me dance with her, I was post effexor... was not feeling it, called me a "closet case". My other friend was like "fuck this lets leave, all a bunch of fat bitches in here." --> I'm not sure what the moral of this story is, but in later times, I'd be like "fuck nah", or just have cooler friends. And not go to shitty dives, w no entrance fee. VIP ONLY MOFOZ.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Today woke up with irritated feeling. Maybe I am overdoing the electrolytes. I sleep like a baby but I woke up very snappy and brainfog. Felt like when you take a shit ton of zinc. I woke up with rock hard erection but no feeling in it. Similar to low estrogen. I also have low libido last few days.

Can magnesium + potassium cause this? @Helen

Progesterone got too high?

I am going to stop using the electrolytes for a few days and let my body readjust.

I am eating a lot of red meat, maybe I am getting too much zinc?

Trying to figure this out.

Overall had a good day though.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I think I just took way too much. I found out 1 small scoop = 2g of magnesium chloride. I took a few scoops.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Gonna take a break from electrolytes for a few days. See what happens. Maybe I was overdoing it.

I am gaining muscle and I am strong in the gym. Overall I feel healthy and mentally quite good. But my erection quality is unstable. Sex drive is on the low side last few days.

Had a few days last week with good feeling (High DHT feeling) and good libido. But after that it went down.

This is pretty much baseline where I was after Ella. I can probably have sex but it does not feel 100% stable which causes unnecessary anxiety.

It's weird I wake up with rock hard erection and then it goes down and rest of the day just no erection.

I will probably try the Nitric Oxide protocol.

Also going to take a break from the forums again. Just focussing on life and meanwhile try some things (electrolyte protocol, diet, nitric oxide protocol etc.) I am going in busier period.

 

[RebelWithACause]

https://www.facebook.com/taeianthetalkingcamel/posts/2198600983759310

This guy claims PUFA is not bad and actually pro-thyroid. Also hairloss regime in this post.

 

[MNK99]

I ate olive oil march or april to now.... and the last 10 yrs.
Talking camel health guide? Wtf. Is he camel-like? Like the Marlboro Man?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Today was first day after almost 4 years (using finasteride and PFS) having low DHT symptoms that I had high/good DHT symptoms.

High libido, flirty with girls, very little anxiety to none. My skin is also oily.

The first time I thought I was recovered I was wrong after Ella. Plain and simple. I just forgot how high DHT feels. But today. Man. I got a few boners just sitting next to an average girl. And this is one day after wet dream. Normally I have to wait 5 days or so before my libido was OK again.

I felt like a little brat. That feeling that DHT gives you. Like I said it makes me a player douchebag charming motherfucker.

I think maybe the last steroid cycle I did helped it for some reason. Maybe because I did not do PCT my body had ability to recover on it's own. Also the electrolytes (potassium and magnesium seemed to pushed me back to normalcy).

Now I am not going to claim I am out of PFS. But today I felt pre-finasteride in every way possible. I am going to keep an eye out this week if it stays or not.

But I am very glad to have experienced this. It gives me good hope for the future.

 

[Orion]

My skin is also oily

What do you think contributes most to your oily skin? I am still trying to get oiliness under control.

 

[RebelWithACause]

What do you think contributes most to your oily skin? I am still trying to get oiliness under control.

I think high DHT can cause oilier skin. When I took creatine I got zits everywhere on the side of my face. Creatine is known to raise DHT.

Also dairy and high copper foods like dark chocolate can increase it from what I have experienced in the past.

IMO it is better to have oilier skin then no oil like I had. When your skin is dried out it makes your skin look crappy. Unless your skin is super oily I would not fuck with it.

You can try eating high zinc diet. That helped me in the past. And lower amount of carbohydrates. But IMO this will just lower your overall hormonal output.

I am guessing it is higher estrogen - higher DHT.

 

[Orion]

I think high DHT can cause oilier skin. When I took creatine I got zits everywhere on the side of my face. Creatine is known to raise DHT.

Also dairy and high copper foods like dark chocolate can increase it from what I have experienced in the past.

IMO it is better to have oilier skin then no oil like I had. When your skin is dried out it makes your skin look crappy. Unless your skin is super oily I would not fuck with it.

You can try eating high zinc diet. That helped me in the past. And lower amount of carbohydrates. But IMO this will just lower your overall hormonal output.

I am guessing it is higher estrogen - higher DHT.

Thanks for the feedback.

I am post accutane(but have opposite symptoms), some main PAS symptoms are extreme dry skin/eyes, low libido. I have excessive oily skin and libido was never affected.

Theory is accutane shuts down sugar metabolism (ongoing B1 deficiency), this drives fat metabolism up post tane, burning up all fats/sebum for energy along with (B2, B3, carnitine).

Things that drive or spare NAD in the Kreb's cycle(Malic acid, alpha-ketoglutarate, etc), help get my skin to a more normal state, but still to oily. Also things that promote beta oxidation help (B2, B3, carnitine, B5/cysteine = CoA). Higher dose Biotin which promotes sugar metabolism, increases my oiliness, guessing it shifts body away from beta oxidation.

Still looking for ideas theories, see many mentions that it is high estrogen, testing with Arimidex years ago, no change. My ARL packs are high in Zn right now, and no change.

High aluminum which I have, is a block on carnitine synthesis, so that is another angle I am working on(silica)

 

[RebelWithACause]

Thanks for the feedback.

I am post accutane(but have opposite symptoms), some main PAS symptoms are extreme dry skin/eyes, low libido. I have excessive oily skin and libido was never affected.

Theory is accutane shuts down sugar metabolism (ongoing B1 deficiency), this drives fat metabolism up post tane, burning up all fats/sebum for energy along with (B2, B3, carnitine).

Things that drive or spare NAD in the Kreb's cycle(Malic acid, alpha-ketoglutarate, etc), help get my skin to a more normal state, but still to oily. Also things that promote beta oxidation help (B2, B3, carnitine, B5/cysteine = CoA). Higher dose Biotin which promotes sugar metabolism, increases my oiliness, guessing it shifts body away from beta oxidation.

Still looking for ideas theories, see many mentions that it is high estrogen, testing with Arimidex years ago, no change. My ARL packs are high in Zn right now, and no change.

High aluminum which I have, is a block on carnitine synthesis, so that is another angle I am working on(silica)

Yea biotin increases oiliness for me too.

That's crazy man. How oily is your face? Do you have zits or acne?

When I just got PFS I could not handle sugar at all. I would feel like something was wrong in my body. Depression and tired. Now I can eat 200gr+ sugar and I feel fine. I think PAS and PFS are very similar.

 

[Orion]

Yea biotin increases oiliness for me too.

That's crazy man. How oily is your face? Do you have zits or acne?

When I just got PFS I could not handle sugar at all. I would feel like something was wrong in my body. Depression and tired. Now I can eat 200gr+ sugar and I feel fine. I think PAS and PFS are very similar.

Wicked oily, hate the slick feeling! Don't get very many zits anymore, but plugged pores and blackheads ya lots, still lots of improvement to go. I have mentioned before, all helens ideas have gotten me to the best my skin has been in years and years, just looking to get to my final form!

 

[RebelWithACause]

Fuck man ate pig liver yesterday. Today I felt like absolute doggedy dogshit. Not sure what the fucks going on. Maybe it is the copper content.

Felt uptight all day like you want to break someones neck. Brainfog to the max. Yawning. High dopamine feeling. Very low libido. No high DHT feeling. Kinda like low estrogen feeling.

Gonna cut that out for a while. Also no other high copper food like dark chocolate.

I think I am just not recovered. Maybe I deluded myself into thinking I was. I do not know. The mind is strong.

It is not stable enough to claim victory over this bitch. So now I have my aim focussed on Anavar. I am very interested in the results.

Going to take electrolytes again tonight because this at least gave me stable mood and high energy.

That's it for now.

 

[RebelWithACause]

OK I am doing well. Good libido. Good aggression. Feel high DHT since taking creatine regularly. Strength in gym is good. Getting back to old numbers. Shedding a bit more which is good sign.

Definitely aggressive last few days. I am calm but also able to explode if I want to.

With that said I get feeling of light mania again. Just like before finasteride. Confidence is sky high. Sometimes too high. I just say whatever is on my mind. I don't care about what could happen. I have fuck you attitude to everyone. Although I am also friendlier to people around me. It is just less fucks given. I do what I want to do.

Also crazy dreams. Instead of sex dreams I have violent dreams of killing people or monsters.

I also am motivated to start businesses and shit.

GOOD SHIT.

My diet is OK. I can handle any food again. Even shit foods I do not feel bad/brainfog. But I still do not eat them much pure for health.

I think my metabolism is high. I sweat a lot. I also feel warm a lot of time. Like my face is hot. I also had this before finasteride.

For me this high confidence was always with me until I started finasteride. So I am not worried about it. I can ride the wave without fucking up my life.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Also people seemed to react aggressive to me. Especially men. I had this before finasteride when I would do NoFap for 2 weeks+. It is like your sexual energy is so high it starts to bother people.

I am friendly guy but some of these dudes act real angry to me for no reason. Which makes me want to punch them.

 

[K8668B]

Also people seemed to react aggressive to me. Especially men. I had this before finasteride when I would do NoFap for 2 weeks+. It is like your sexual energy is so high it starts to bother people.

I am friendly guy but some of these dudes act real angry to me for no reason. Which makes me want to punch them.

You're doing everything right then. They feel threatened. They're insecure and intimidated by you. Little jealous insecure p*ssies! They see you as competition towards attracting women, and physically too. Don't worry about it. Its not your problem.

 

[RebelWithACause]

So I had wet dream and it seems to hit me harder sometimes than other times. Last 2 days I felt OK but not great.

Side effect that I get after wet dream:

- Anxiety for at least 3-5 days
- Less social
- Penis spasms/pelvic floor spasms
- More bloat

I do not think I am out of PFS honestly. It is easy to fool yourself on the days you feel good. But it is not stable enough to claim victory yet.

It is up and down. I had a few days where I thought to myself: "I am healed!". Then I have a wet dream and boom it is all gone and it feels like I am back to 70%.

It is annoying. I have experienced this a few times now.

 

[Niles]

So I had wet dream and it seems to hit me harder sometimes than other times. Last 2 days I felt OK but not great.

Side effect that I get after wet dream:

- Anxiety for at least 3-5 days
- Less social
- Penis spasms/pelvic floor spasms
- More bloat

I do not think I am out of PFS honestly. It is easy to fool yourself on the days you feel good. But it is not stable enough to claim victory yet.

It is up and down. I had a few days where I thought to myself: "I am healed!". Then I have a wet dream and boom it is all gone and it feels like I am back to 70%.

It is annoying. I have experienced this a few times now.

The fact that you have near 100% days means you're approaching the finish line and are likely doing the right things, though. Guys who have recovered just stayed consistent when they found themselves in the spot you're at right now and eventually the bad days are fewer and farther in between until they're cured. In hindsight, do you think that running test for awhile helped sensitize receptors so that you felt better when you recovered from suppression, or do you still think it did more harm than good?