SIMPLE DETOX PROTOCOL FOR DUMMIES( heavy metals, drugs)

[TubZy]

@gbolduev is saying that estrogen chelates copper. So you say what?

Dude, this was talked about on page 6 in this very thread to you multiple times, not sure why you are so obsessed with copper, just get tested if it bothers you that much. I guarantee you are toxic in copper via brain/liver like most of us.

I'll rephrase it for you:

@TubZy : can copper increase estrogen?
@gbolduev : Yep, that is why estrogen is given to bulls, to make the huge
@gbolduev : this one dude who was 18 and starting taking copper in a slow oxidized state and gained insane amount of water weight with moon face and everything.

 

[Yura]

i don't know why you are so offensive? I just ask simple questin.. Isn't it true that @gbolduev is saying that estrogen will chepate copper? Same as resveratrol supposed to do? Now you are saying taking estrogen will make you retain copper?
Page 5 of this thread
"Aromatase inhibitors retain copper, since estrogen is not working and body is trying very hard to retain copper. to make estrogen. Actual estrogen chelates copper, any estrogenic substance taken from outside will chelate copper, like reseveratrol. Resveratrol is estrogen and it causes copper deficiency. Women who get spider veins take progestins, not estrogen pills. SODS contain both copper and zinc , so spider veins could be from zinc or copper deficiency . it is all about balance."

 

[Ben123]

@TubZy do you think zinc is safe to take without hair test if person has clear signs of estrogen dominance and low metabolism? Im 90% sure im slow oxidizer .

 

[Yura]

@TubZy
I got copper for everyone! Sky high tissue copper. Hair mineral analysis

@gbolduev is saying
"As far as copper toxicity symptoms , women get them by inserting UID. this is when I see high copper on hairtests. Estrogen pills do cause hypothyrodism if taken constantly since estrogen lowers thyroid effect. But when they quit this estrogen, they are all low on estrogen later, since estrogen chelated their copper."

That's why I was so confusing from Gbolduev and his view on this. Because it is exact opposite what 99% other people are saying. That you will be copper toxic from estrogen and not deficient.. Can we discuss this. So we know what is right or wrong? Or it is tabu? or "spam" from my side..?

 

[gar0u87]

Dude, this was talked about on page 6 in this very thread to you multiple times, not sure why you are so obsessed with copper, just get tested if it bothers you that much. I guarantee you are toxic in copper via brain/liver like most of us.

I'll rephrase it for you:

@TubZy : can copper increase estrogen?
@gbolduev : Yep, that is why estrogen is given to bulls, to make the huge
@gbolduev : this one dude who was 18 and starting taking copper in a slow oxidized state and gained insane amount of water weight with moon face and everything.

Do you have to contact a practitioner so they use the matrix software and put the the TEI analysis into context? Should i go with evenbetternow option # 2 analysis again? Thanks

 

[TubZy]

i don't know why you are so offensive? I just ask simple questin.. Isn't it true that @gbolduev is saying that estrogen will chepate copper? Same as resveratrol supposed to do? Now you are saying taking estrogen will make you retain copper?
Page 5 of this thread
"Aromatase inhibitors retain copper, since estrogen is not working and body is trying very hard to retain copper. to make estrogen. Actual estrogen chelates copper, any estrogenic substance taken from outside will chelate copper, like reseveratrol. Resveratrol is estrogen and it causes copper deficiency. Women who get spider veins take progestins, not estrogen pills. SODS contain both copper and zinc , so spider veins could be from zinc or copper deficiency . it is all about balance."

Not getting mad, you keep obsessing over copper since page 1 for some reason lol.

Yes, taking estrogen or anything that mimics estrogen (resveratrol) will chelate copper since the body thinks it has enough estrogen and will chelate copper to get rid of it (since copper increases copper just like how zinc increases progesterone). The copper toxicity from birth control is related to unbound copper (in brain/liver) since it lowers thyroid and the body can't chelate it fast enough.

 

[TubZy]

Do you have to contact a practitioner so they use the matrix software and put the the TEI analysis into context? Should i go with evenbetternow option # 2 analysis again? Thanks

Yes, the practitioner initiates the test with option 2 (full analysis w/ program).

Catherine Richards is the name you could use. Her email is [email protected] she is a pract. for both ARL and TEI.

 

[TubZy]

@TubZy do you think zinc is safe to take without hair test if person has clear signs of estrogen dominance and low metabolism? Im 90% sure im slow oxidizer .

zinc alone? Not really. It was talked about on page 6, mostly need zinc + manganese. You need everything in balance to, just taking one mineral is going to mess with other imbalances.

 

[gar0u87]

Yes, the practitioner initiates the test with option 2 (full analysis w/ program).

Catherine Richards is the name you could use. Her email is [email protected] she is a pract. for both ARL and TEI.

Many thanks for your help. ARL seems a better option althought i guess it will be more expensive. How many months do you plan to stay on ARL supps recomendations if you dont mind me asking?

 

[sanka]

@Yura how much you take of the clorhidric acid?

 

[Yura]

You mean hydrochloric acid? I was taking a lot first month like 120 drops of 3,5% and had strong detox reactions. Now I take just 10-15 drops after 3 meals a day.. It also depends what I eat. Easy to digest food 10 drops, but If I will eat big meat meal then I can take even 20-30 drops no problem..

 

[Slayo]

Not getting mad, you keep obsessing over copper since page 1 for some reason lol.

Yes, taking estrogen or anything that mimics estrogen (resveratrol) will chelate copper since the body thinks it has enough estrogen and will chelate copper to get rid of it (since copper increases copper just like how zinc increases progesterone). The copper toxicity from birth control is related to unbound copper (in brain/liver) since it lowers thyroid and the body can't chelate it fast enough.

Can you elaborate ? What has low thyroid to do with an increase in unbound copper ? Copper has to do with adrenals status.
I know that birth controll pills contains both estrogens and progesting, so what is the net effect on minerals and thyroid (estrogens and progesting have opposite effect on thyroid) ?

 

[Shanks]

I use the malic acid too now. I really feel like I get increase libido when or after drinking the malic acid. It does something great in this.

It tastes like 100x better than ACV as well. Very easy... I just have a big bag of malic acid from bulksupplements.com . I take about 1 or 2 g daily whether preparing for liver flush or not. Try to up it around liver flush days.

I flush about monthly now and have done 9 now overall. Will try to increase that to every 3rd week for this stretch coming up.

Do you drink/take the malic acid at once or do you solve 1 g of it in 1 liter and drink it over the day?

Thanks.

 

[bruschi11]

You're supposed to do it over a day but I end up doing it in like 2 different cups of water say 1g late morning, 1 late afternoon.

This doesn't have to be done perfectly to be effective. If you forget a day just move onto the next etc.

 

[sanka]

@Yura the one that i have is at 19% , thats not good right? Hahaha

 

[TubZy]

Many thanks for your help. ARL seems a better option althought i guess it will be more expensive. How many months do you plan to stay on ARL supps recomendations if you dont mind me asking?

ARL suggests 3 months as a standard

 

[Yura]

@Yura the one that i have is at 19% , thats not good right? Hahaha

It is ok. You will take less with more water.. Be careful 19% is strong acid.. you need to figure out how to dilute this 19% to 3-5% and then use 10 drops this 3-5% concentration after meals in water.. It should taste like diluted lemon juice.. Drink with straw..

 

[Ben123]

ARL suggests 3 months as a standard

What happens after taking supps for 3 months? Re-test and going on from there ? Is it possible to recover from severe burn out in 3 months with ARL or does it take longer?

 

[TubZy]

What happens after taking supps for 3 months? Re-test and going on from there ? Is it possible to recover from severe burn out in 3 months with ARL or does it take longer?

Yeah. Not sure, I'm sure you can treat it, not sure of the time table though. I'm not treating burnout but PFS specifically.

 

[bruschi11]

Would like to hear more about Sodium Thiosulphate w/ Vitamin C @gbolduev ... not much on the web about it.

Should we order something like this? RPI Sodium Thiosulfate,250g - 31GD68|S23060-250.0 - Grainger

@gbolduev

EDIT: I'm seeing get the solution used in fish tanks and drop 8 or so drops per day in water. Kind of like how MMS is used I guess for infections? Ever use MMS GBOLD, thoughts on it?