Tei and some consideration

Ingeno

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I for myself connect muscle twitches even if it’s the eyelid rather with low Potassium than Magnesium. Though Mg also helps K uptake.
But mini plex has lots of chromium which can dump your Potassium quickly.

Not 100% sure why TEI is giving much Chromium and Copper with this low K and high Na/K but they probably know.

TEI and ARL have different approaches to treat 4 Lows.

I really think you need to get out of hat worse than 4 lows state.
Easier said than done, the 4 lows make it also hard for me to hit the gym, it makes it even worse. Just hope the next hair test will be a bit better.
 

Pedro melo

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@RebelWithACause i try to consume the most calcium I can in order to slow me down... But my digestion is so fucked up that sometimes I flush it right away :(
Greek iogurt and almond milk are my main options along with some vegetables...
Also, @Helen there are two doubts I have that maybe you can help me... After this round of tei i have a bad small( like old man people) and my sweat smell as changed witch is something that really bothers me... And the other is... They gave me min Plex B which has chromium in it and I was consuming it 2 times a day... How can my chromium be inexistent in the second hair test? :(
 

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@RebelWithACause i try to consume the most calcium I can in order to slow me down... But my digestion is so fucked up that sometimes I flush it right away :(
Greek iogurt and almond milk are my main options along with some vegetables...
Also, @Helen there are two doubts I have that maybe you can help me... After this round of tei i have a bad small( like old man people) and my sweat smell as changed witch is something that really bothers me... And the other is... They gave me min Plex B which has chromium in it and I was consuming it 2 times a day... How can my chromium be inexistent in the second hair test? :(

Greek yoghurt is good. Just try things out and see what your stomach can handle. In the beginning I had some diarrhea from some brands of milk. Now not anymore. Your sweat smell can change on the program - could be hormones or other things. I just saw a video on Deep Healing Space talking about this. Check out that YouTube channel "Deep Healing Space".
 

Pedro melo

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Greek yoghurt is good. Just try things out and see what your stomach can handle. In the beginning I had some diarrhea from some brands of milk. Now not anymore. Your sweat smell can change on the program - could be hormones or other things. I just saw a video on Deep Healing Space talking about this. Check out that YouTube channel "Deep Healing Space".
Thanks bro. Defenitly will
Yeah is kind of a sweet smell, even my urine smell is so so strong...
About the calcium, its not just the calcium that gives me strange stomachs noises, sometimes digestion is tolerably but another's I just can't handle specially if I eat more then average, sometimes its not about the nutrients, its more about the amount of food, like I can't handle the same amount ibises to before
 

Goose12

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Greek yoghurt is good. Just try things out and see what your stomach can handle. In the beginning I had some diarrhea from some brands of milk. Now not anymore. Your sweat smell can change on the program - could be hormones or other things. I just saw a video on Deep Healing Space talking about this. Check out that YouTube channel "Deep Healing Space".
I was about to say the same and saw the same video lol.

Deep healing space is a great channel. It would be cool to get Lewis on here. The only thing I am not on board with is the coffee enamas, reflexology, and pulling down exercise that they claim is just as important as the supplements. I see nothing wrong with them but I don't think they are must and I think coffee enamas could mess with hair test.

A lot of there testimonials match my experiences

@Pedro melo the change in smell is normal and low chromium can be from your body using it to detox.
 

RebelWithACause

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I was about to say the same and saw the same video lol.

Deep healing space is a great channel. It would be cool to get Lewis on here. The only thing I am not on board with is the coffee enamas, reflexology, and pulling down exercise that they claim is just as important as the supplements. I see nothing wrong with them but I don't think they are must and I think coffee enamas could mess with hair test.

A lot of there testimonials match my experiences

@Pedro melo the change in smell is normal and low chromium can be from your body using it to detox.

Yea it's a good channel. Dr. Wilson's website has a lot of good information. ARL also.

I don't think they are a must either but these guys are practitioners for Dr. Wilson so they promote everything he promotes.

Dr. Wilsons promotes a lot of weird shit besides that. I don't believe everything he claims.

I don't believe in coffee enemas but I never tried them so cannot say 100%. I think you are just anally absorbing caffeine. So you get some stimulation from the caffeine and people claim this fixes the liver. I think coffee is also pro-liver taken orally. So yes you can take it anally, just like you can take alcohol anally.

Maybe I am wrong. I just don't like that stuff. A lot of tips by Dr. Wilson have helped me a bit though.
 

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Enema's do more than just give one a caffeine boost. In fact, after an enema I always feel like a million bucks; happy, energetic, something drinking coffee never has done for me. It also expels parasites for one, which I witnessed first hand and it helps with liver detoxication.

Just don't overdo it, like Wilson advertises to do them up to four times daily. Doing them once a week or once every few weeks shouldn't mess with hair tests, either.
 

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practitioners are not experts, most of them know nothing. how can practitioner know anything about biochemistry.

The only thing I warn about is doing hairtests after some extreme things, like fasting or chelation etc. since in those cases hairtests can be wrong.

Do I know if TEI program is the best. or valid. I can not gaurantee that. That is why I am learning more and more myself also about how hairtests blood and urine are connected. and how it is all regulated, and I have been looking at it for years.

Normally practitioners which I met , can't answer any questions at all. And they can't understand all these connections, I still don't understand all these connections,

It could be that TEI program and their testing is on such amazing level that it is hard to grasp what they re doing exactly, or may be they are missing something and wrong in some simple aspects and this all could be done lets say much faster.

I'm looking into this and trying to figure everything out, it is not easy ))

What my experience, anyone who tried to do their own program, and fuck around minerals themselves did worse than on TEI in the end.


I saw only a couple of cases where people followed what I did and that was chelation and did faster than TEI.

but may be it was their specific case with heavy metals, like in my case, I knew my problem was lead. and of course taking cared of it with a chelator is faster than TEI

but in TEI case, lets say you are iron toxic and they will be pushing it out with copper, it causes bad sides.

or pushing out some other metals will take much longer.

We don't know if just substituting minerals and feeling better is the same as fixing the system.

But TEI doesn't read the fact that I am copper toxic. I've seen them suggest plenty of copper to some of us who cope with copper toxicity problems and neither of them show progression. But this whole copper thing is just very vague. Even Wilson seems uncertain whether his patients are either toxic or deficient.
 

RebelWithACause

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But TEI doesn't read the fact that I am copper toxic. I've seen them suggest plenty of copper to some of us who cope with copper toxicity problems and neither of them show progression. But this whole copper thing is just very vague. Even Wilson seems uncertain whether his patients are either toxic or deficient.

How do you know you are copper toxic?
 

Admiral

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How do you know you are copper toxic?

Because I have a lot of skin problems, no collagen or connective tissue, vitiligo, low estrogen and systematic candida. Also very low ceruloplasmin. All this points to a copper problem. Then again, I could be deficient in it, but taking in all that copper on my last cycles didn't make a difference. My copper level even dropped below baseline, like as if my body can't absorb it since the bad copper is not being removed first.
 

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Because I have a lot of skin problems, no collagen or connective tissue, vitiligo, low estrogen and systematic candida. Also very low ceruloplasmin. All this points to a copper problem. Then again, I could be deficient in it, but taking in all that copper on my last cycles didn't make a difference. My copper level even dropped below baseline, like as if my body can't absorb it since the bad copper is not being removed first.

Good you’ve learned and we’re learning this as a group collectively.
 

Pedro melo

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Because I have a lot of skin problems, no collagen or connective tissue, vitiligo, low estrogen and systematic candida. Also very low ceruloplasmin. All this points to a copper problem. Then again, I could be deficient in it, but taking in all that copper on my last cycles didn't make a difference. My copper level even dropped below baseline, like as if my body can't absorb it since the bad copper is not being removed first.

My father has vitiligo since he is 30 more or less... Hope all this stress in my body doesn't make vitiligo appear.
I have the same issues you have mentiined about the skin: getting old faster and my bruises don't healing anymore. They close, but then the color is different then the rest of the body, which makes me feel cautious about the copper also.
Regarding cofee enemas, I've talked with @bruschi11 and I was doing it wrong. I need to hold it in my body for some minutes, which I was not doing due to the huge amount I was puting which made me take a shit right away. Tomorrow morning I'll repeat this but felt energic and could not sleep the first time.
@Goose12 did you had this funny smell during process?
 

Blugrass

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I also think that the problem with copper bioavailability is because of aldehyde enzymes. Most copper enzymes produce aldehyde. and if you produce or expose to too much aldehyde from candida, gut dysbiosis because of lack of bile let's say, then acetaldehyde can be very high and this stops copper enzymes which breaking down serotonin and histamine, and you end up with high cortisol

We recently found that most POIS people have extremely high levels of malassezia restricta . which could be a reason for the IBD, gut problems, crons, and CFS.

10 people got tested and all of them had that. It is a fungus , so creates this acetaldehyde


It could to do with potassium concentration of the cell, and intracellur acidosis and extracellular alkalosis. thus this fungus grows. I am looking into this.


may be that is why some people felt better on nystatins etc fluconazoles

This interesting, my copper is low, and I recently did the Organic Acid Test, I found Arabinose and tartaric acid to be high. These are yeast products.

What about the theory that this candida and parasites exist because we have heavy metals. Meaning they have somewhat a protective role for us, and they grow for a reason. Like Candida is associated with Merucry.

This could also explain the side effects with TEI since more heavy metals are leaving tissues and going into blood to be exerted.

I do feel a little better from TEI sides when I take Sodium potassium bicarb before bed. Since high PH helps mobilize toxins, as I've read.
 

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Because I have a lot of skin problems, no collagen or connective tissue, vitiligo, low estrogen and systematic candida. Also very low ceruloplasmin. All this points to a copper problem. Then again, I could be deficient in it, but taking in all that copper on my last cycles didn't make a difference. My copper level even dropped below baseline, like as if my body can't absorb it since the bad copper is not being removed first.

So we have two cases of people with low copper on TEI. People like you and bruschi who don't improve at all from copper plus.
And someone like Rebel who does have some good days, with side effects of course.

I'm in the same boat with low copper. Only time will tell how I will react to TEI long term.
But I have to admit the few times I tried TEI sups I felt better a few days after stopping them. I just can't stick to the program because I'm dealing with kidney stones which get worse with TEI. So I need to deal with that first.
 

Goose12

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My father has vitiligo since he is 30 more or less... Hope all this stress in my body doesn't make vitiligo appear.
I have the same issues you have mentiined about the skin: getting old faster and my bruises don't healing anymore. They close, but then the color is different then the rest of the body, which makes me feel cautious about the copper also.
Regarding cofee enemas, I've talked with @bruschi11 and I was doing it wrong. I need to hold it in my body for some minutes, which I was not doing due to the huge amount I was puting which made me take a shit right away. Tomorrow morning I'll repeat this but felt energic and could not sleep the first time.
@Goose12 did you had this funny smell during process?
I have had brief periods of weird body oder on tei. It's normal.
This guy uses arl which is the same concept as tei. He mentions weird body oder as being part of the healing process, in the video. He also cured himself from post accutane.
 

sanka

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Well, he have 8 years in the program. How is possible to live 8 years that way? I mean all detox symptoms, etc.
 

Walker

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Well, he have 8 years in the program. How is possible to live 8 years that way? I mean all detox symptoms, etc.

I don’t get it....nowhere there did he say he felt like shit the entire eight years.
 

Walker

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All people doing tei feel bad while you are taking supps, right?

I would say that depends on what you’re treating and how you feel. I wouldn’t imagine you would feel that way for eight entire years.
 

bruschi11

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All people doing tei feel bad while you are taking supps, right?

It’s only early first couple weeks or months. Detox symptoms doesn’t always mean feeling bad.

You can feel great on tei. A lot of people like @Grambo and @Niles feel better on the supplements.

I feel better on supps currently on balancing protocol I’m on (similar to ARL).