TEI Hair Analysis - From Fast 4 into Slow 1. (Updated 10th of May 2019)

Troy

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Scalp itch is a good thing. Although I never had hair loss prior to PFS, near the end of my recovery my scalp became itchy again.
So did you have an itchy scalp prior to pfs but with no hair loss?
 

Ingeno

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Scalp itch a good thing? Yes and no. Lots of people associated scalp itch with increased output of androgens, which obviously is connected with higher sex drive and other positive things. So if you use that as a reasoning and are solely looking for that, yes it is a good thing.

However, in my opinion we need to become balanced, where you will have a good sex drive when it is needed and where scalp itch is non existant. Unbalanced output of androgens isn't healthy, yes it might make you feel good, but in the end other symptoms creep up because you are simply not balanced.

TEI is helping us to balance our body and I can only imagine that scalp itch is part of the balancing act and I hope it becomes less and less the longer we are on TEI. I actually think the scalp itch is a bad thing and that it means there are unbalanced things going on in our bodies. I have experimented with a lot with supplements before I found this forum and in the end all the supplements that increased mood/sex drive, also increased the scalp itch. I could experiment for years, but why keep bouncing between different body chemistries while there is a chance that TEI puts us in a way healthier state we have ever been. I'm still excited and ordered my second HMTA for later this year.
 

Walker

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So did you have an itchy scalp prior to pfs but with no hair loss?

Yes, as in my scalp would itch when it got oily. Not anything extreme however. Prior to it coming back it would just have no feeling whatsoever.
 

Troy

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Yes, as in my scalp would itch when it got oily. Not anything extreme however. Prior to it coming back it would just have no feeling whatsoever.
Interesting. You still don't get any hair loss? I thought the itch I got was signalling baldness coming.
 

Walker

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Interesting. You still don't get any hair loss? I thought the itch I got was signalling baldness coming.

I mean I have a few hairs in the shower like everyone seems to, but I’ve pretty much had the same mature hairline for the past few years. All the men on my father and mother’s side have their hair into their late sixties still. Which is why getting PFS from Saw Palmetto was so fucking annoying to me lol.
 

Troy

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I mean I have a few hairs in the shower like everyone seems to, but I’ve pretty much had the same mature hairline for the past few years. All the men on my father and mother’s side have their hair into their late sixties still. Which is why getting PFS from Saw Palmetto was so fucking annoying to me lol.
Yeah that is really unlucky when you think about it.

At least you are all good now!
 

Walker

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Yeah that is really unlucky when you think about it.

At least you are all good now!

Agreed, but I'd still like to have that almost two years of my life back lol.

That's my luck however.
 

Ingeno

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So it has been a while since the last update and I am not quite sure what to feel right now. Just on and off days, but somewhat demotivated lately. Hard to get stuff done at work, even forcing myself to walk a bit is hard as fuck. Not feeling many positive emotions, like I wish I could freeze time for a year, don't leave the house and let me fix myself before I can continue with my life. So weird, because I always was outgoing and euphoric before all the FIN and hair loss drama started. We are some weird creatures.

Hair loss is still going on I think, stills lots of hairs in my hands when styling, although the itch is not always there. Salt scrubs help somewhat but I do not think that it is the solution. Maybe it upregulates the hair receptors once the salt has 'run out' in the scalp. Maybe that's why the scalp itch increases during the day. Libido is decent, but nowhere as close as it was before FIN.

One last thing I hate right now is that my face looks sunken. Eyes are sunken en my skin around my cheeks look sunken. Like 5 people all asked me in the same week if I lost weight, but I didn't. Hit me pretty hard when they noticed it.

Peace out.
 

MNK99

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Yeah dude... PPL asked me all kinds of dumbass questions last yr, now I'm made of solid steel again (more so). It takes time***.
-Appearance will improve and it's hard seeing changes that make no sense at the time but it won't be permanent with the right focus and regimen.
-Even at 40-50% yeah I was turned on, but randro and 4andro (probably mostly randro and some TMO herbs) made me aggressive as fuck (and my baseline is kind of aggressive, cynical, lone wolf anyways)... but it was bad, but ***I knew it's a necessary evil***, so I ran with it. Same here man, for you.
-I had shedding a lot and probably now, but hair never changes outside of slowly over time a bit, and crazy meds as well as neuro meds, for me.
-So for me: Super fast noticable hair change occurred twice and that's 2 times too many, and so things like randro and 4andro or tei, etc, ella or ru may have shed a bit too, as did water fasting, but hair looks better than several months ago.
-Regrowth? I don't know and wouldn't think so, but I'm saying... like we all shed. Even girls some who never lose hair (I guess many) shed all the time.
-We probably shed a bit as kids too even with zero hair loss, no? --Shedding is a necessary evil, as I'm sure you know, @Ingeno. Good Luck with TEI - are you on it now?
-Gonna run the full 2-3 mo? That's what I'm doing maybe 3x. More maybe, but if need be I will use something else after 2 or 3 cycles.... obviously something mild.
 
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Goose12

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So it has been a while since the last update and I am not quite sure what to feel right now. Just on and off days, but somewhat demotivated lately. Hard to get stuff done at work, even forcing myself to walk a bit is hard as fuck. Not feeling many positive emotions, like I wish I could freeze time for a year, don't leave the house and let me fix myself before I can continue with my life. So weird, because I always was outgoing and euphoric before all the FIN and hair loss drama started. We are some weird creatures.

Hair loss is still going on I think, stills lots of hairs in my hands when styling, although the itch is not always there. Salt scrubs help somewhat but I do not think that it is the solution. Maybe it upregulates the hair receptors once the salt has 'run out' in the scalp. Maybe that's why the scalp itch increases during the day. Libido is decent, but nowhere as close as it was before FIN.

One last thing I hate right now is that my face looks sunken. Eyes are sunken en my skin around my cheeks look sunken. Like 5 people all asked me in the same week if I lost weight, but I didn't. Hit me pretty hard when they noticed it.

Peace out.
I know how you feel but it will get better. You have to look at the positive, the only positive, which is after you get through this you will have a great understanding of how to balance yourself and become the best version of yourself.

I completely understand wishing to have the ability to freeze time so you can get better and start over. I shut a lot of people out if my life and ended relationship since this happened but I am ready to start living again. I actually look forward to the future and you will to. Just stick with tei
 

RebelWithACause

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Life gets dirty sometimes man. That is part of life! All this shit is part of life.

I think we grow up with thought of perfect life. But then you make mistakes. Some people do too much drugs. Some people use finasteride. Some people marry a psycho bitch. Some people die when they are 20 in a car crash because they are drunk.

Welcome to life my friend. You will be fine. Just keep pushing to heal yourself and allow the process make you stronger in the mind.

If you lose a couple of friends because of this so be it.

Friends come and go. Just like women. Most people are opportunistic. When you are down they will leave you in the gutter. When you are up they want to be around you. But if you have at least one friend who checks in with you once in a while. That is special. If you don't so be it. Be alone for a while. Become a ronin.

Read Miyamoto Musashi if you have time.
 
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Ingeno

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It's been a while since the last update, but honestly there is nothing really worth mentioning going on. Still some emotion numbness, hard to focus at work. Sleep has improved somewhat, I fall asleep faster. Just doing lots of walking right now, no motivation to hit the gym yet. Scalp itch still present, hairline slowly creeping away.

Right now I'm just sitting out this first round and I can't wait to start the second round where I hopefully start noticing some positive improvements.
 

Ingeno

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Received the results of my second TEI hair test. Went from a fast 2 into a fast 4. I think this is closer to my real oxidation rate, because I need to eat insane amount of foods to gain some weight. Some minerals slightly increased. Boron is entering my cells, which didn't show up at all on my first hair test.

- Zinc, phosphorus and sulfur went pretty high. Zinc is explainable, because I had to take 50mg zinc a day. The other two's I have no clue.
 

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tanedout

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Received the results of my second TEI hair test. Went from a fast 2 into a fast 4. I think this is closer to my real oxidation rate, because I need to eat insane amount of foods to gain some weight. Some minerals slightly increased. Boron is entering my cells, which didn't show up at all on my first hair test.

- Zinc, phosphorus and sulfur went pretty high. Zinc is explainable, because I had to take 50mg zinc a day. The other two's I have no clue.

First time I've seen fulvic acid on their suggested sups lists, that's interesting. Are you going to follow the program?

Your toxic elements are almost non existent (which is good obviously!) Do you have no amalgam fillings? Do you use only roll-on deodorant? (aluminium free)
 

Ingeno

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First time I've seen fulvic acid on their suggested sups lists, that's interesting. Are you going to follow the program?

Your toxic elements are almost non existent (which is good obviously!) Do you have no amalgam fillings? Do you use only roll-on deodorant? (aluminium free)
It's not an official TEI supplement, but from the company I order the hair test from. Their logic is that it helps chelate heavy metals and increases the absorption of vitamins/minerals, which should speed up the healing process. I remember I read somewhere that people who have been in fast oxidation their whole live have a tendency to not store heavy metals, which might be a plus.

No fillings, only a splint/retainer behind my teeth, which I think is a combination of chrome/nickel. I indeed use aluminium free deodorant.
 

wuf

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It's not an official TEI supplement, but from the company I order the hair test from. Their logic is that it helps chelate heavy metals and increases the absorption of vitamins/minerals, which should speed up the healing process. I remember I read somewhere that people who have been in fast oxidation their whole live have a tendency to not store heavy metals, which might be a plus.

No fillings, only a splint/retainer behind my teeth, which I think is a combination of chrome/nickel. I indeed use aluminium free deodorant.
And how are you feeling so far?
 

Ingeno

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And how are you feeling so far?
I actually feel pretty decent, no way cured yet, but I can enjoy stuff again. Libido comes and goes, but when it's there it's like porn with no erection issues at all. Strength in the gym hasn't totally recovered yet, but I think that's explainable looking at my hair test, also taking it slow so I don't impair my healing process.

Brain fog is less noticable, but I still have some stuttering while speaking.

The hair loss part is hard to answer, since stopping my first cycle I actually have almost zero scalp itch. But this doesn't mean it won't fall out anymore. I guess time will tell.
 

Helen

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Update for myself:

Been on the 2nd cycle for almost a week, and like I guessed, the vitamin E is a bitch. Dry skin, lots of eye floaters and heavy emotional numbness. Also waking up like I've been hit by a train. For the rest nothing special and feels ok-ish.

hopefully after the cycle your estrogen will be working better