Ulcerative Colitis / IBD

[HerrFisch]

Today I noticed that I have quite a lot of cherry angiomas on my body. Cant say if they are new or old.
I think with UC always sequestering iron, iron is a problem.

I dont really want to disrupt the TEI plan by just cancelling out the iron supplement.

But i'm pretty sure after I get this whole copper problem done, I'm up to solve a iron problem. Probably because of the always low copper available.

 

[HerrFisch]

Digestion back on track. Only some problems with protein or maybe the protein powder (whey isolate).
Metabolism feels stable. And faster. No "crashes"
IBS symptoms got lighter again. Like only slight pressure + slight stomach ache + some gas. Like a trapped fart But having Ibs for over 2 years, the smalles sign still gives me some anxiety at times.
But little tasks are done easily. (Worst times I even had IBS symptoms leaving the house to walk 50m) IBS gets better to sit through.



Stress resistance 5/10
Digestion 7/10
IBS 7/10
IBD 10/10

Its 4 weeks now. I think I will do weekends off and retest in 2-4 weeks.

Whats left from IBS is mostly pain. This pain now disappears if I can calm down. But is still the reason for me to turn around in most situations, cause its really hurting.
But in general only improvements the last 2w.

Stress resistance 7/10
Digestion 8/10
IBS 7/10
IBD 10/10

Tried some b2 lately and 100mg almost made me want to vomit. Makes me feel dizzy and sick for 1-2h. I'd even say similar to IBS symptoms.
Weird that this wasnt the case 1 month ago with higher doses.

Tried Whey once again,,, still doesnt work for me as of now. But idc


++ Im off medication for over 2 months now.

 

[Aleksandr]

Its 4 weeks now. I think I will do weekends off and retest in 2-4 weeks.

Whats left from IBS is mostly pain. This pain now disappears if I can calm down. But is still the reason for me to turn around in most situations, cause its really hurting.
But in general only improvements the last 2w.

Stress resistance 7/10
Digestion 8/10
IBS 7/10
IBD 10/10

Tried some b2 lately and 100mg almost made me want to vomit. Makes me feel dizzy and sick for 1-2h. I'd even say similar to IBS symptoms.
Weird that this wasnt the case 1 month ago with higher doses.

Tried Whey once again,,, still doesnt work for me as of now. But idc


++ Im off medication for over 2 months now.

I was diagnosed with ibs too, (stabbing pains in the gut) but i seem to have fixed it by avoiding certain foods. Mostly fodmap foods it seems, but im not super strict. Beans and legumes seem to cause the most problems for me

Have you looked into that? Whats your diet like? Whey messes me up too, even now. Im getting a bag of essential amino acids from the bulk supplements place.

 

[HerrFisch]

Amazoniac posted on RP something about Magnesium chloride causing acidosis. And I think there is something to it. Link

If Im going to use potassium or any mineral supplement in the future, I wont rely on only chloride forms. Cause doing like 8g KCl and 4g MgCl, gives you a lot of chloride.

And myself having high lactic acid levels and pretty low metabolism, I dont see my high chloride intake as good anymore.

 

[Helen]

Amazoniac posted on RP something about Magnesium chloride causing acidosis. And I think there is something to it.

If Im going to use potassium or any mineral supplement in the future, I wont rely on chloride forms. Cause doing like 8g KCl and 4g MgCl, gives you a lot of chloride.

And myself having high lactic acid levels and pretty low metabolism, I dont see my high chloride intake as good anymore.

Meine aktuelle Einschätzung.

I thought you were on TEI. Please dont add Anything at all to it. and follow the diet.


Slow oxidizers have lactic acid, since they have low oxygen delivery.

Most of them can hold their breath for minutes. since they are in alkalosis. lactic acid actually helps in this case.


you dont want to pound potassium or magnesium. Everything needs to be balanced and with normal dosages. not 10 times the RDA.

Sodium will not be retained in slow oxidizer until you get rid of copper and have ascorbate working.

 

[Nina]

I thought you were on TEI. Please dont add Anything at all to it. and follow the diet.


Slow oxidizers have lactic acid, since they have low oxygen delivery.

Most of them can hold their breath for minutes. since they are in alkalosis. lactic acid actually helps in this case.


you dont want to pound potassium or magnesium. Everything needs to be balanced and with normal dosages. not 10 times the RDA.

Sodium will not be retained in slow oxidizer until you get rid of copper and have ascorbate working.

What does it mean when one cant hold their breath long? Like 20-30 seconds max.

 

[Helen]

What does it mean when one cant hold their breath long? Like 20-30 seconds max.

respiratory acidosis. could be . high acetylcholine

you can check your phosphorus in blood. if high you have respiratory acidosis

in this case you will be also a slow oxidizer, but you will have low potassium in blood, NOT high.

 

[Goose12]

What does it mean when one cant hold their breath long? Like 20-30 seconds max.

After I crashed from saw I couldn't hold my breath any longer than 30 seconds, and I would wheeze like a smoker when breathing. It was rediculous. Before saw I was perfectly fine.

Now after tei I can hold my breath for 1 minute 30 seconds. I haven't really pushed it to see if I could go longer.

 

[HerrFisch]

I think my digestive problems and stomach ache / gastritis right now, might be caused by h pylori.
Does anyone have good tips on treating gastritis ?

I knew and read that things like that could flare in copper elimination , but right now I can’t really go on with supplementation as I can’t really do supplements with a burning stomach.
@Helen any tipps ?

 

[manu]

@HerrFisch try mastic gum. I have used it for some minor issues I've had.
However I wouldn't mix anything with TEI. Maybe just reduce the dosage like just every second day... etc.

 

[Helen]

@HerrFisch you have to tell me what have you been taking with TEI.

Sometimes taking vitamin B2 could cause increase in hydrogen potassium ATPase .
Could it be the case?

Or it could be lactic acid from too low b1.

Please tell me exactly the things that you were taking lately including TEI supplements.

 

[HerrFisch]

@HerrFisch you have to tell me what have you been taking with TEI.

Sometimes taking vitamin B2 could cause increase in hydrogen potassium ATPase .
Could it be the case?

Or it could be lactic acid from too low b1.

Please tell me exactly the things that you were taking lately including TEI supplements.

I wasn’t taking anything with TEI,
but I was using a lot of KCl the months before. And it’s possible for me that this is because of the high chloride intake. That’s not too nice for the stomach walls.
And I had gastritis 2-3 months ago as well. Couldn’t really eat for 1 week.

And no I wasn’t taking b2 with TEI.

But after I stopped TEI because of retesting and ongoing diarrhea, I tried b2 for 1 day which stopped diarrhea in 2h but I got really bad stomach aches.

But with diarrhea I feel really tired with all the electrolyte losses.

But it’s definitely not UC, the ache is in a different location. It’s the stomach. And Colon is not inflamed.

Fasting yesterday did alleviate the stomach ache, but diarrhea still there.

Can’t really take TEI supplements right now as my stomach can’t handle them.

 

[Helen]

I wasn’t taking anything with TEI,
but I was using a lot of KCl the months before. And it’s possible for me that this is because of the high chloride intake. That’s not too nice for the stomach walls.
And I had gastritis 2-3 months ago as well. Couldn’t really eat for 1 week.

And no I wasn’t taking b2 with TEI.

But after I stopped TEI because of retesting and ongoing diarrhea, I tried b2 for 1 day which stopped diarrhea in 2h but I got really bad stomach aches.

But with diarrhea I feel really tired with all the electrolyte losses.

But it’s definitely not UC, the ache is in a different location. It’s the stomach. And Colon is not inflamed.

Fasting yesterday did alleviate the stomach ache, but diarrhea still there.

Can’t really take TEI supplements right now as my stomach can’t handle them.

Yeah, then it is possible that you had too much chloride . I mean 4 gm of MgCL is a lot. and 8gm KCL you were taking a lot.


Did you try sodium bicarbonate. they usually use sodium bicarbonate to increase bicarbonate and increase chloride excretion in high chloride cases as chloride competes binding with sodium

So as chloride binds with sodium it lowers it in the cell, and thus you have diarrhea.

Thus taking alone MgCL or Kcl are ok in cases with volume expansion alkalosis when sodium is high in the blood.

Slow oxidizer usually have low sodium. Thus NaCL with KCl usually used .


But I think now you might try to use sodium bicarbonate which should increase your sodium and bicarbonate and chloride will be free and pissed out in the urine.

 

[HerrFisch]

Yeah, then it is possible that you had too much chloride . I mean 4 gm of MgCL is a lot. and KCL you were taking a lot.


Did you try sodium bicarbonate. they usually use sodium bicarbonate to increase bicarbonate and increase chloride excretion in high chloride cases.

Yes sodium bicarbonate is #1 for gastritis.

4g MgCl is a lot of chloride, but not really lots of magnesium. Orally it’s not really the best option with 88% chloride.

with Sodium bicarbonate the acidic feeling subsides.

 

[Helen]

Slow oxidizers need Sodium chloride. Not magnesium chloride. 4 gm is a lot of chloride without sodium

Chloride in magnesium will just bind sodium and you will piss out bicarbonate.

Magnesium and potassium chlorides are used only in volume expansion alkalosis where the goal is to lose sodium.

I agree that taking magnesium chloride in huge amounts could give too much chloride.
Just take sodium bicarbonate now until you lose enough chloride.

 

[Helen]

@HerrFisch Do the bicarbonate and go on the program and dont take electrolytes.

when copper is high in the cell, body raises progesterone and retains more potassium in the cell to match copper. Thus raising potassium even more makes you feel better, but I dont think it does anything. It might even retain more copper there.

Copper transport from the cell is done thru ATPases which are all on riboflavin.

Try to follow TEI, and your copper will come down, and when it comes down, your progesterone will go into cortisol and your blood potassium and cell potassium will fall and sodium will rise.

 

[HerrFisch]

when copper is high in the cell, body raises progesterone and retains more potassium in the cell to match copper. Thus raising potassium even more makes you feel better, but I dont think it does anything. It might even retain more copper there.

Yeah, that was my though on why I did stop electrolytes before I started TEI.
And as you can see on my latest hairtest, the potassium dropped from 30 to 3.

And it looked like copper didnt drop any further on TEI but maybe it did but it doesnt look like it because of the drop in K.

I just dont understand why TEI doesnt give b2 for high copper people. They do if they give you copper though. Maybe they know something we dont know.

 

[Helen]

Yeah, that was my though on why I did stop electrolytes before I started TEI.
And as you can see on my latest hairtest, the potassium dropped from 30 to 3.

And it looked like copper didnt drop any further on TEI but maybe it did but it doesnt look like it because of the drop in K.

I just dont understand why TEI doesnt give b2 for high copper people. They do if they give you copper though. Maybe they know something we dont know.

I saw people have high copper like you and then go on the program, and that copper went to 200s. and then after a couple of months it came down. and the person got rid of mental disorder.

Same with lead in me. my lead was high, and then when I started to get rid of it went up crazy and then came down.

SO your copper going down slowly might be a good thing. means that you were binding it with stuff, when we created the original programs. with aminos etc.


And potassium allowed copper to come out of the liver more into blood.


Potassium on the hairtest shows excretion of potassium normally it goes up with cortisol. so as cortisol goes up , potassium is excreted. and sodium is retained.


. TEI thought you had high potassium, and I think gave you the wrong program at first. they could not know that you supped tons of potassium on your own.

your potassium will be low without supplementation, since normal absorption does not run as high as you were supplementing.

I honestly dont know why they dont give tons of b2 for slow oxidizers. I guess they want to restore sugar metabolism and b2 leans toward more fats.

But I do think that lack of Atpases are the reason for chronic fatigue etc. And riboflavin along with magnesium are major components to make Atpases.

So it would make sense if most slow oxidizers have very high magnesium levels and calcium on hairtests, means that they are lacking riboflavin and other Bs, may be even more b1 and b5. b6 To make needed stuff to start up sugar metabolism.

May be that is why they dont give ribo, since they prolly lean more toward active b6. It could be not as good a giving b2. bypassing B2 regulation. But that is just guessing, or may be by giving active b6 they free up more b2 automatically.

 

[HerrFisch]

Gastritis is getting better but diarrhea is still annoying and not going away. Really don’t know what to do. It gets worse in the evening.
Never had so much problems with diarrhea.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Gastritis is getting better but diarrhea is still annoying and not going away. Really don’t know what to do. It gets worse in the evening.
Never had so much problems with diarrhea.

Are you still on TEI? Not sure what to do against diarrhea. Also had it for a while but I don't have UC. Magnesium causes me the shits. So does creatine. Not sure if you are using this. It is probably your UC acting up. Gotta ride the diarrhea wave for now.