URINE therapy LOG( THIS IS NOT A PROTOCOL, and HELPED NO ONE, THIS IS JUST A TRIAL , I DON'T HAVE PFS)

[jacknap]

yeah, no shit, this is why I used sulphoraphane.
One more time, please refrain from giving me advice.

If I am doing something, I know what it does. Urine modulates all the above things

And there is no glucocorticoid resistance in half of the cases

GR resistance stems from lack of glutathione. This is why DNA reception of cortisol is ZINC FINGER( CYSTEINE and ZINC)

And in PFS zinc is lost into the urine, since B2 is missing. B2 makes CYSTEINE. this is why they use NAC to reverse gluc resistance instead of theophylline in COPD patients.

And this is why many people get rid of all of their PFS with just NAC. but it never lasts. It does not stick. it is a patch.


Since histamine and cysteine will be only allowed in the body when there is potassium

thus I recoverd people by giving them potassium magnesium copper plus histidine and cysteine and B vitamins

This allows the system to go back on.

Since I raise histamines along with cortisol, otherwise both histamine and cortisol are not allowed.

is there any bad from using nac? I use it along with a liver cleanse supplements/chlorella on an empty stomach before dinner. detoxification. don't really feel bad or good on it but I figure it's just good to cover all basis.

i do notice my energy has been really good since doing this but also I added brewers yeast in the am so could be that and generally just sleeping better.

 

[happenstance]

Thats why the picture. I thought you got pfs by happenstance and thought this could be your ex.

I though you thought I was a woman. No pfs for me luckily, but my doctor wanted to give it to me before it was even released. Told me come back in a few months. By happenstance I never did and forgot about it.

 

[MNK99]

Good to fall ass backwards into luck. Literally my Savior half the time.

Are you guys arguing ? I can't tell. Happenstance good name @happenstance.

 

[happenstance]

Good to fall ass backwards into luck. Literally my Savior half the time.

Are you guys arguing ? I can't tell. Happenstance good name @happenstance.

Thanks, no argues. I like it because I think it sounds kind of silly. Btw, just something that happened to me that I found fun, I'm a nurse and a few weeks ago I found out that one of the patients was on 5 mg propecia a day because of some prostate problems. I ran to his room to see his hair. He was in his 60's and had hair like a 20 something, except the mature hairline. It was thick all over. I asked if his hair got thicker after he started propecia and he said it grew like a m*therf*ucker and how I knew?

 

[MNK99]

Yeah actually just came back from NJ... Not only was my bro fine with Propecia (a surgeon), but like 5-6 random family friends (like uncle's friends), all start up guys...
-are on it.
-I still have better hair than like all of them but they are 19-25 yrs older or so. Brother like 6 yrs i guess.

_im damn lean and jacked now too, but yeah... everyone reacts differently. THO one guy (I didn't see him), complained of mood issues with Fin. Also my brother did kind of go crazier/ more aggressive in 20's... SO did I, but that's bc things actually happened to me. I wasn't spoiled as fuck.

-MAYBE Japan's dose .2mg would have been ok... but yeah cannot fuck with any weirdo drugs at all, with my neuropsyche and neuro make up. NOT worth it.
Just get a fucking fue if need be 5-10 yrs from now. WOuld be like 12-15yrs if not for meds tho (Adderall, Lamo... some sort of chronic TE or just accelerated Diffuse thinning).

-I'm super pissed off, clearly do not give Fin, Accutane (also Effexor - jesus that was dangerous) to someone with a mood disorder (whatever the hell it is, mostly situational but ya, i am not like everyone else, but I'm not insane either). Not that much different... My ADHD is super obvious, and I guess enraged, mood disorder might be to like 0.01% of ppl or less, or like a person that sees how insomnia ridden I usually am, but outside of high stress/ not that apparent.

@happenstance, lots of douches in med rite? I had a surgery last yr, literally the first guy I consulted with was a total dbag. Chose wisely, thankfully, but I can see how easy it is to make a mistake (elective). I mean, yeah my chosen career will be douche central, unless choosing something else.... but still.

-It's ridiculous tho, a health fanatic, 15% bodyfat max... worked out thousands of times, gets so sick *just like that*, loses a year, but people that eat carbs all day... nothing happens to them. I mean in general, obviously I don't wish anyone (most) any specific harm.

_Also gotta say some nurses with an ill relative and also at times when I saw them at Emerg and also last year's surgery were so nice, it was crazy... I mean they should be nice, but kind of restored my faith in humanity a bit, usually I forget. But they actually were super nice to me last yr. I commend you on your work - you're a difference maker, man.

 

[happenstance]

Yeah actually just came back from NJ... Not only was my bro fine with Propecia (a surgeon), but like 5-6 random family friends (like uncle's friends), all start up guys...
-are on it.
-I still have better hair than like all of them but they are 19-25 yrs older or so. Brother like 6 yrs i guess.

_im damn lean and jacked now too, but yeah... everyone reacts differently. THO one guy (I didn't see him), complained of mood issues with Fin. Also my brother did kind of go crazier/ more aggressive in 20's... SO did I, but that's bc things actually happened to me. I wasn't spoiled as fuck.

-MAYBE Japan's dose .2mg would have been ok... but yeah cannot fuck with any weirdo drugs at all, with my neuropsyche and neuro make up. NOT worth it.
Just get a fucking fue if need be 5-10 yrs from now. WOuld be like 12-15yrs if not for meds tho (Adderall, Lamo... some sort of chronic TE or just accelerated Diffuse thinning).

-I'm super pissed off, clearly do not give Fin, Accutane to someone with a mood disorder (whatever the hell it is, mostly situational but ya, i am not like everyone else, but I'm not insane either).

@happenstance, lots of douches in med rite? I had a surgery last yr, literally the first guy I consulted with was a total dbag. Chose wisely, thankfully, but I can see how easy it is to make a mistake (elective). I mean, yeah my chosen career will be douche central, unless choosing something else.... but still.

-It's ridiculous tho, a health fanatic, 15% bodyfat max... worked out thousands of times, gets so sick *just like that*, loses a year, but people that eat carbs all day... nothing happens to them. I mean in general, obviously I don't wish anyone (most) any specific harm.

Yeah, I have a slight OCD tendency. I'd go nuts over pfs. Put a lot of drugs in me with Ray peat forum, cypro, clonidine, tianeptine and progesterone - never going there again and kind of worrying what I did.

I looked into fue and basically my impression is that it's totally wild west and a scam. If stem cells growing new hairs before transplanting they better make some robots or some standard for implanting it. Several people I read about that paid 10k $ for fue said they saw no difference three years later.

 

[MNK99]

-1 more thing, ya genes... but the guy complaining about mood issues has been 7-8% bodyfat. He has crazy good genes in some ways. --He can eat pizza all day, and burgers, and not lift and is sub 10%. But he's gonna quit it. He's like 40-50 anyways, and super rich... he doesn't need fin and... he took it like 10-15 yrs late anyways.
--he has kids, a wife, travels... literally should just shave or keep hair short. He had super long hair tho. So i get it, it's like "you're someone else", but he's gotta keep it real and not fight nature.

-Dude, I think it's better to get a highly skilled surgeon than pay crazy amounts for ARTAS. --I mean, avoiding douchebags that sell HT's to 20 year olds is key, but it can be done. Totally depends on mapping out final hair destination tho. Some (many) will be slick bald by some age.
--AND obviously, only getting it if past mature hairline, of the right age, and rent, mortgage, school etc, is paid... not taking out a loan.
-I may in future, but I'd only choose someone that has done thousands of hair transplants, and specializes in FUe - if I chose fue.
-Acell and all that is not really great it seems. ALSO* PRP helped some but most surgeons think it's a scam. Tho it depends who you talk to... People around me are fairly cynical. Even now they say things like: YOU CAN'T STOP AGING. YOU have no hair loss. --I don't know man. Obviously I know me, more than they know me.
-I think they say different things to people that they know cannot argue or disprove them (docs in general). I mean, I know they do.
-I've seen HORRIBLE hair transplant results and AMAZING ones too. I mean 20 yrs ago, probably ALL horrible tho.

 

[happenstance]

-1 more thing, ya genes... but the guy complaining about mood issues has been 7-8% bodyfat. He has crazy good genes in some ways. --He can eat pizza all day, and burgers, and not lift and is sub 10%. But he's gonna quit it. He's like 40-50 anyways, and super rich... he doesn't need fin and... he took it like 10-15 yrs late anyways.
--he has kids, a wife, travels... literally should just shave or keep hair short. He had super long hair tho. So i get it, it's like "you're someone else", but he's gotta keep it real and not fight nature.

-Dude, I think it's better to get a highly skilled surgeon than pay crazy amounts for ARTAS. --I mean, avoiding douchebags that sell HT's to 20 year olds is key, but it can be done. Totally depends on mapping out final hair destination tho. Some (many) will be slick bald by some age.
--AND obviously, only getting it if past mature hairline, of the right age, and rent, mortgage, school etc, is paid... not taking out a loan.
-I may in future, but I'd only choose someone that has done thousands of hair transplants, and specializes in FUe - if I chose fue.
-Acell and all that is not really great it seems. ALSO* PRP helped some but most surgeons think it's a scam. Tho it depends who you talk to... People around me are fairly cynical. Even now they say things like: YOU CAN'T STOP AGING. YOU have no hair loss. --I don't know man. Obviously I know me, more than they know me.
-I think they say different things to people that they know cannot argue or disprove them (docs in general). I mean, I know they do.
-I've seen HORRIBLE hair transplant results and AMAZING ones too. I mean 20 yrs ago, probably ALL horrible tho.

You should watch the documentary called "Last days here". Its about a failed rock musician in his fifties, at the beginning he's addicted to heroin and crack at the same time and living with his parents, but all of a sudden a 20 something hot girl starts calling him wanting to be his girlfriend and they have a child together. I think if you're a man, it's much more useful to work with your personality than your looks. The looks part is women's, and the reason for this is that they bear the child, while the man supplies personality to the child as well as providing resources, even Aristoteles said this. If you look at modern DNA research only the mitochondrial DNA is from the mother, so I think there's something to this.I think what's most important is being mentally well, I don't believe looks matter much for men, accept that men are ugly. Like my ex. told me, she'd feel like shit being with a man that was more beautiful than her. Having said that, I would do a hairtransplant if it was guaranteed I'd have the hair of me at 16, only to soothe my insecurities.

 

[MNK99]

-Sounds Interesting my friend, yes I shall look into that. Barely watch anything but I love Gordon Ramsey all this year and also: Anthony Bourdain catching up.
-He had a timiltuous life for sure. Ramsey too but for completely different reasons... lots of rage also.
-FOR sure, I mean value goes up as we get more things, credentials, and also "personality" as in capital, travelling, better skills, better experiences.
-Yeah for sure, nearly dying to protect hair was a bad call. Just got a Ps4pro, saved 210, points... not bad. My next apartment hopefully will be 1200-1400 vs 1700 my first nice place... and bigger, further away from all the douchiness of downtown (pretty close, but uptown). Altho looking in a couple cities *just in case*.
-Yeah, way more to life than looks, and hair, and all that bs. --roommate id save way more... but it's hard really hard to do that. all my good friends moved too.

-hair from 2yrs ago is fine for me... or even 20's any range. 16, i looked worse but got in shape... hair literally looks better aged too. --but ya plenty of guys with hot girls that aren't so great. I went out with girls, post effexor was stupidly shy, then super high, it was crazy. I underdated for a while, then realized. --but basically, long term: ya looks fade for all or nearly all. sad, but it is true. --- fasting makes us mentally strong too.

 

[Panyaa]

The benefits of urine therapy are not just appreciated by humans.

 

[SwaZ]

Is it possible to make this therapy even better. Maybe loading up on minerals and vitamins so that they collect in morning urine and make it even more potent?

 

[Helen]

Many people asked me to keep this log going. So here it is.


Been drinking this for a while, just one glass in the morning.

Had several hard detoxes with shivering , high temps, edema in the brain , felt viral origin , headaches. All has passed. I think it might have been my left overs of my lymphoma and mono, which I got from lead toxicity and finasteride.


Skin is amazing on this urine, hair is growing. I see new hairs all over. I lost 70% of my hair on this round of fin, and I see it growing back.

As for sex drive libido, this thing gave me the highest sex drive and libido I have ever experienced in my life. ( and that is without hairloss))

And it is all mental. Like I go to the store to pick up food and then find myself stuck in meditation looking at some womans, ass. It is idiotic really)

There is so much energy that you want to drain it with something.

I will be doing this for 2 more months and then I will test the hair to see what is going on.

I feel that I am not balanced yet on this urine, it is doing something, but I feel very anabolic. I think I am still in the middle of the balancing act.

I want this energy to come down a little.


Also the interesting part, I feel more love. and vulnerable. Like when I started to drink it I was hit with emotions, I felt like a little bitch)) It was weird. I felt people more. and I felt insecure almost.( may be I had still some sort of PSSD, since I took SSRIs)

And then it changed at times to aggression and then would level out.

Then the calm would come , but I think I def gained more feelings on this. Not sure if this is good for trading)))


I hope more of you who are trying this chime in and share if you experienced something like I did.

So far so good, on this, would be interesting to see the balance eventually.

 

[diffi]

I though you thought I was a woman. No pfs for me luckily, but my doctor wanted to give it to me before it was even released. Told me come back in a few months. By happenstance I never did and forgot about it.

I don't get it: your doc wanted to give you pfs? How goes that? Interesting!

 

[Helen]

Here is a message of some dude, who took dutasteride and accutane @lakehouse

"I came across this thread via search engine, as I was considering starting up dutasteride again for hairloss (tried it briefly in the past, got spooked and stopped).
After reading what I’ve seen here, I think I will pass on trying it again.
I do want to share a method I’ve come across however that I believe works. Look into urine therapy and distilled water. I don’t want to spam the board since I’m a newbie here, however, it’s extremely powerful stuff, especially the former (urine therapy).
I’m quite knowledgeable on the topic so if you have any questions, let me know. The ED and sexual sides from my brief Dut session, as well as long-lingering deep-down depression from my accutane days, both appear to have vanished thanks to UT and/or distilled water."

 

[RebelWithACause]

Maybe you are just big softie from the inside @Helen you wuss!

 

[Helen]

Maybe you are just big softie from the inside @Helen you wuss!

Haha, more love and more anger ,and more hate. all emotions )) and all that with a HUGE BONER , LMAO

 

[MNK99]

Mostly all I have is hate but some love... My love is an ocean. More loving on TEI. And I hate it.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Sound s like good combination

 

[bruschi11]

Urea gave me 2 really good hours or so @mahounie now crazy fatigue for last 15. Think that’s the end of my experiment here.

 

[Helen]

Urea gave me 2 really good hours or so @mahounie now crazy fatigue for last 15. Think that’s the end of my experiment here.

Same , urea causes fatique in me.