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RebelWithACause

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Yeah I do see that like you do. I also don't see average guys without mental issues having issues to have a GF. It just I didn't know a lot of stuff they talk about..
I don't subscribe to any of this movement/mindset. It is just good to know all of that and think for yourself.. Be honest and do what is best for your specific scenario..
Btw what is interesting is that you see all those actors, models taking Fin and they have no issues. They just keep their hair and are happy hehe than you have some average guy who takes it and it ruins his life. I mean life is not fair at all lol..
Majority of them do have libido issues though. I remember some woman actrice talking shit about some men (actors) she dated and lacked libido she said and she correlated it with their propecia/finasteride usage. I know a few bigger streamers on Twitch also who also use finasteride and they all said the same it lowers libido but they don't care they want hair.

Also talked to a guy on another other non health/non hair loss related forum and he was on finasteride and said he had severe PE and was depressed all the time.

Most people just accept they have side effects because their hair is saved. Some people get high libido but bad erections. Others get low libido and bad erections. Other people get low libido good erections. etc. I imagine models and actors even need it more because of money. So they are probably like who cares I'll take cialis at least I'll have my job.

Especially because they take it like normal person everyday and finasteride builds up more and more. Same happened to me. If I take it once a week or max once every two weeks I get benefits hair feels better, etc without side effects. But daily I get crushed.
 
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Yeah some loss of libido is expected when you lower DHT, but I was talking more about that complete crash where people report their whole body is fucked. Bone loss, collagen loss, crazy mental issues, no emotions etc.. Those people don't look the same. If that happened some model he is fucked. Would drug himself to death for sure..
 

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Yeah some loss of libido is expected when you lower DHT, but I was talking more about that complete crash where people report their whole body is fucked. Bone loss, collagen loss, crazy mental issues, no emotions etc.. Those people don't look the same. If that happened some model he is fucked. Would drug himself to death for sure..
yea true, I think like Helen says must be some sort of glutathione problem where your body cant raise metabolism anymore and i think because of that it also stops the breakdown/excretion of finasteride. I felt like I was on finasteride for lik 3 more years after crashing until i was able to raise metabolism then PFS went away
 

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yea true, I think like Helen says must be some sort of glutathione problem where your body cant raise metabolism anymore and i think because of that it also stops the breakdown/excretion of finasteride. I felt like I was on finasteride for lik 3 more years after crashing until i was able to raise metabolism then PFS went away
Did you hair get worse as you raised your metabolism?
 

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Will do liver flush today. I wanted to do it tomorrow, but I don't want to wait another day and fast all day lol. I had only some fruit and whey protein shake for lunch so it should be ok to do it today.. If I don't respond tomorrow I died from drinking all that oil hehe..
 

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Will do liver flush today. I wanted to do it tomorrow, but I don't want to wait another day and fast all day lol. I had only some fruit and whey protein shake for lunch so it should be ok to do it today.. If I don't respond tomorrow I died from drinking all that oil hehe.
how many have you done? Seen benefits from it?
 

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I did one 2013, another 2023 and third 14 days ago and now I am doing it again. The first two were during winter. Which is really ad timing. Hard to tell about benefits. Not much so far came out. Like 1-2tbsp of stuff at most. But some people did 50 and nothing and after that crazy mounts of stuff came out.. I had really bad diet for so long low in fat, high in grains. That is the worst diet for bile flow.. Now I try to eat more fat, take bitter stuff before the meals like artichoke extract to stimulate the juices etc.. THe flush is powerful that's for sure. You feel like it stirs up a lot of garbage in that liver.. I have to do probably some anti parasite cleanses as well to clean the liver. Because if there was no bile flow for a long time it has to be loaded with pathogens. Bile is the main antibacterial stuff that keeps the liver and small intestine clean..
 

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Did you hair get worse as you raised your metabolism?
No but my hair looked better (thicker) on finasteride. I now have average hair like how it used to look before fin except i dont have hairloss anymore. On fin it became thick and dark. Now I am dark blonde, on fin it was brown. But in general fin feminized me incl. better hair lol like a lot of women I know they have thick hair even when they are unhealthy.

But that being said I don't have regrowth yet. I might post pictures and you will see. Maybe I need even better health or something still lowering my glutathione not sure. But never my hair became worse from better metabolism, the contrary
 

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No but my hair looked better (thicker) on finasteride. I now have average hair like how it used to look before fin except i dont have hairloss anymore. On fin it became thick and dark. Now I am dark blonde, on fin it was brown. But in general fin feminized me incl. better hair lol like a lot of women I know they have thick hair even when they are unhealthy.

But that being said I don't have regrowth yet. I might post pictures and you will see. Maybe I need even better health or something still lowering my glutathione not sure. But never my hair became worse from better metabolism, the contrary
Interesting, I would think better metabolism > higher androgens > more hairloss (especially since you have the genetics for it)..wonder why its stopped? You dont have fin in your system any longer. If its all about the DHT you should be losing it still since nothing is stopping it anymore. I know if you have poor liver (slow detox) then fin can stay in the system for years. You still feel the feminine feelings? I never felt masculine. And since starting losing hair on my head I also grow more body hair.
 

RebelWithACause

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Interesting, I would think better metabolism > higher androgens > more hairloss (especially since you have the genetics for it)..wonder why its stopped? You dont have fin in your system any longer. If its all about the DHT you should be losing it still since nothing is stopping it anymore. I know if you have poor liver (slow detox) then fin can stay in the system for years. You still feel the feminine feelings? I never felt masculine. And since starting losing hair on my head I also grow more body hair.
No I feel normal now, I felt feminine in PFS and in finasteride. I think high DHT doesn't always make you lose hair at all. It's about if your metabolism can handle DHT. Lowering DHT is just a bandaid. That's why there's guys with high DHT who have no problems.
 

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I am almost done with that epsom salt diarrhea and so far not even one small stone nothing. That's insane.. I took 10mg of manganese yesterday. I wonder if that really can cause so severe cholestasis? I am not taking anything like I said until I don't have new hair test.. But this is really crazy. Like literally absolutely nothing came out of me.
Where are all those stupid people who are saying "those are not stones but a mixture of the oil and citrus juice" really? so where the fuck are they when I drank that mixture?
Also the thing is I didn't felt anything this time in my liver after drinking it. There was nothing happening. I think I simply have very bad bile production. Which is much bigger issue than thick/sluggish bile or stones.. Maybe there is some serious scaring of the liver already who knows..
I think I am done with flushes for now. It is such a horrible experience to drink that disgusting shit.. I will just eat diet more favorable for bile production and flow and that's it..
 

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I am almost done with that epsom salt diarrhea and so far not even one small stone nothing. That's insane.. I took 10mg of manganese yesterday. I wonder if that really can cause so severe cholestasis? I am not taking anything like I said until I don't have new hair test.. But this is really crazy. Like literally absolutely nothing came out of me.
Where are all those stupid people who are saying "those are not stones but a mixture of the oil and citrus juice" really? so where the fuck are they when I drank that mixture?
Also the thing is I didn't felt anything this time in my liver after drinking it. There was nothing happening. I think I simply have very bad bile production. Which is much bigger issue than thick/sluggish bile or stones.. Maybe there is some serious scaring of the liver already who knows..
I think I am done with flushes for now. It is such a horrible experience to drink that disgusting shit.. I will just eat diet more favorable for bile production and flow and that's it..
yeah stop all this stupid shit man, body detoxes naturally when its balanced. just get your HTMA as balanced as possible
 

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Yeah I am done with that for sure. I was also considering that anti parasitic cleanse with black walnut, clove and wormwood, but I am not doing that. I think it would just destroy my kidneys and liver..
I tried the flushes again because Helen was pushing it hard. But it doesn't work for me at all. I have issues with bile production. Not with flow/stones..
 

esp90

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No I feel normal now, I felt feminine in PFS and in finasteride. I think high DHT doesn't always make you lose hair at all. It's about if your metabolism can handle DHT. Lowering DHT is just a bandaid. That's why there's guys with high DHT who have no problems.
Yeah but they say its genetic. You dont believe that? Even ARL say MPB rarely changes on their program. Other versions of hairloss are easier to fix they say.
 

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Yeah but they say its genetic. You dont believe that? Even ARL say MPB rarely changes on their program. Other versions of hairloss are easier to fix they say.
I don't believe that no personally. I almost never see other version. I've seen a few like that guy Vegetable Police on YouTube he seemed he had diffuse.
 

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@TubZy I have not tried GHK is that peptide? It has to be injected?
Anyways I couldn't sleep after reading that thread with Gbolduev talking about copper, estrogen etc..
That was year 2018 and during that time I had no blood test showing any high free copper.. But that changed 2020. I actually remember that day when I was taking the blood test. It was hot summer day. I had job interview and I felt that copper dump. I felt very high blood pressure, I had headache, nose bleed. Anyways on my blood test my serum copper was 26,9 umol/l ref. range 12,4-20,6 and ceruloplasmin was only 0,20 g/l ref. range 0,20-0,60 ..
With help of chatGPT(as at that time my lab was not calculating free copper yet. Now they have it) my free copper 17,5 umol/l idela should be zero obviously and limit is 2.2..
% of free copper was 65%.. If that is not symptom of copper toxicity I don't know what is..
Btw I just looked at all my blood tests. In 2019 I had also elevated free copper 3,8. So not that bad
2023 also 2,1 ref. range ends 2.0
Anyways on my last blood test free copper was low, but serum was also crazy low under 10 and all the classic symptom of copper deficiency. Low white blood cells. Completely tanked estrogen...
THat in combination with bad bile flow(liver enzymes elevated all the time. I think that the copper damaged the liver, oxidative damage to the bile ducts. I think I even can feel some fibrosis when I bend and dig my ribs into the liver.. So bile flow is simply really bad.
Had high TSH 5-12 like forever. So here I wonder is the cause of my issues low thyroid and therefore low ceruloplasmin or vise versa metals fucking up my thryrold/adrenals..
That I really don't know and thinking about it all the time over a decade instead of living life is really fucked up..

What you think guys about trying resveratrol? To hopefully increase estradiol and ceruloplasmin? I would keep dietary copper low as possible to not retain even more while taking something like 10mg manganese, 30mg zinc, 200mcg molybdenum, some vit C and most importantly whey protein + histidine multiple times to bind that copper and flush it out with urine.. I would do blood testing every time I would feel any change in symptoms to see what is going on.. Otherwise I don't know what to do. It really seems like my body is really struggling more and more to deal with that copper and so it completely stopped copper metabolism, because the body simply can't handle it.. I can't wait 3 months until my hair grow back. DO hair test and then take ARL stack with copper. I think that will not help me at all.
Ideal would be by the time I do the hair test within 3 months. I would start to move copper out so I will see it on hair test..

But I need to do something now, because my veins are really building up plaque like crazy with this high Lp(a) from all that oxidative stress and also my infections and pathogens are going crazy due to low white blood cells for so long. I think for now I am keeping myself alive with stuff like garlic and lugol iodine that is killing some pathogens, but I really need to reduce all that ROS and increase antioxidants so the body can pump up hydrogen peroxide and kill every fucker in me that shouldn't be there..

yeah its a peptide, it should help bind and use up copper
 

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I would like to have it on hand if my free copper goes up. But I don't see any GHK without copper in shops where I could buy it + I think I don't want to inject anything anymore in me.. If my copper goes up I will just take whey protein like every 2 hours 20g to provide body all the EAAs + I will take some molybdenum.. For now my serum copper is very low.. I think my adrenals are completely fried. I will keep taking some vit C, B vitamins and keep stimulative foods like fruit and copper from food low as well. That should help the adrenals to get stronger. So I can push and dome some copper again. Now after this failed liver flush I feel really bad. I will no longer do anything that drastic... Would do TUDCA from nutricost as well. I have no bile my liver is fucked..
 
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ruprmurdoch

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Hello Yura, greeting from Poland Czech brother !

Do some lab tests. Toxoplasmosis Igg, Igm antibodies (You have authority in this subject in your country-Jaroslav Flegr), progesterone, cortisol, lh,fsh, t, e2,prolactin, dhea, acth,tsh,ft4,ft3, vit b9(toxoplasmosis is eating mainly folic acid !),b12,liver enzymes, creatinine - if you can. For example if you have high progesterone and cortisol and low test, helen/gbold said to use pine pollen

For one year I concentrated on healing infections like toxoplasmosis, like fixing my periodontosis(caused by anaerobic bacteria) and it gives me more progress than other 6 years of trying diffrent supplements.
I'm very stubborn so I also made labtest during or just after antibiotics cycles.

My t3 and t4 levels were elevated by antiprotozal/bacteria;/yeast herb-wormwood. also hairtest TEI after wormwood show Cu spike (but also Zn). t3 and t4 were elevated also after trimethopine sulfamethzol drug- which is used in treating toxoplasmosis (which almost every single time is in brain). This drug crosses brain blood barier so first two cycles were hard as fucc. third cycle was easier. fourth cycle was easy. Each course last 10 or 14 days. Drug depletes b9 and probably b12. so before and after I took few days b9+b12+b complex+vitc.
Then to heal peridontosis-abscess I used metronidazol - no need for dentists and their dear services ! 3 days x 250mg for 6 days. you can type in hackstasis search engine metronidazole. people healed by using this. but this drug also depletes vit b1(so in consequence it lowers hormones which work on nadph, and studies confirm this), so before and after b1 supplementation is reccomended beacuse people with low b1 levels using metronidazole end up with neurological consequences. metronidazole also disrupt histidine and manganese. but after cycle it seem that mn and histidine work better (at least for me, but if you rethink that metronidazole is imidazole and histidine is as well - it make sense). If You have problems with tests which I mentioned above I can provide You a good laboratory in Cieszyn (of course if you live close to Poland).
Does Your teeth / gums ok ? Do you have head pains ?

You can first just kill pathogens. It will give you in short time big gains.
 

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No I feel normal now, I felt feminine in PFS and in finasteride. I think high DHT doesn't always make you lose hair at all. It's about if your metabolism can handle DHT. Lowering DHT is just a bandaid. That's why there's guys with high DHT who have no problems.
high dht almost always mean low nitric oxide so low folic acid/b12
 

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Hi I don't think I have issues with periodontosis. Parasites maybe.. My lymphatic system is very clogged that's for sure.. I don't have money to make tests all the time. I would rather take sodium thiosulfate in decent doses and just kill everything that is live in me.. My main issues are copper toxicity/low bioavailability.. I just have to stop doing stupid stuff and leave the body alone. Do the hair test. So I know what to take..