Health Log - UPDATE 7 MONTHS INTO TEI (CYCLE #3)

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2018-02-26

I forgot to mention, that last Sunday, I saw my precum for the 1st time in about a year! I'm having shy sexual thoughts from time to time. 
Much more intellectual than emotional, but still it's a plus. My penis feels and looks better. Probalby  lately added items (EAA/arginine/bee pollen/LDN) are responsible for this. 

Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2,3
Potassium Chloride  ---   400 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Betaine HCl         ---  1000 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Pine Pollen         ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 2,3
MSM                 ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Vitamin D3          ---  4000 IU       ---  after  meal # 2
Vitamin K2          ---   100 ug       ---  after  meal # 2
Magnesium Chloride  ---    25 mg       ---  before bed 
Arginine            ---     3 g        ---  before bed
LDN                 ---     1 mg       ---  before bed

mood       :  6/10  I am able to feel Like "normal" might be in my reach.
libido     :  3/10  Noticeably better penis 
energy     :  5/10  Not bad.
digestion  :  4/10  Again - 1 stool. Watery and unfulfilling. Lots of room for improvement.
 
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Orion

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25mg magnesium chloride? Wow. People seem to really be scared of magnesium. I doubt your body finds any piece of magnesium in that 25mg Lol

With MgCl, when I take 500mg and up is a single dose, it quickly causes stomach rumbles and runny bowel movements. For now I have been taking 1gram divided in 3 doses during the day.
 

HerrFisch

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With MgCl, when I take 500mg and up is a single dose, it quickly causes stomach rumbles and runny bowel movements. For now I have been taking 1gram divided in 3 doses during the day.
Interesting. Looks like PFS people really do have problems with magnesium / sodium changes. I think its more sodium changes than the magnesium itself.

As you know I have / had some problems with IBS and used magnesium in higher dosages months ago. Not particularly for IBS though. And I think Im really prone to diarrhea/ tolerance to such things.
I noticed some bowel changes when I took larger dosages, but also noticed that they disappear as soon I got used to a higher dosage.
I used up to 1600mg elemental magnesium (that would be 13g of MgCl). When I had problems with 1200mg and I used 1600 the next time, I had no problems when I used 1200mg the following times.
For me it always looked like I just needed to get used to it.
It is similar when I speak to people that use mangesium as laxative. They get used to it really fast and need more - if they use it only for that purpose.

Im not telling you to use that much magnesium. Especially not with PFS and low sodium. But when people write they use 25mg of magnesiumChloride, whcih is only like 3mg of magnesium. (if you overlook bioavailability) I kind of need to laugh :D

I mean you would get more magnesium in 1 almond.
 

Orion

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Interesting. Looks like PFS people really do have problems with magnesium / sodium changes. I think its more sodium changes than the magnesium itself.

As you know I have / had some problems with IBS and used magnesium in higher dosages months ago. Not particularly for IBS though. And I think Im really prone to diarrhea/ tolerance to such things.
I noticed some bowel changes when I took larger dosages, but also noticed that they disappear as soon I got used to a higher dosage.
I used up to 1600mg elemental magnesium (that would be 13g of MgCl). When I had problems with 1200mg and I used 1600 the next time, I had no problems when I used 1200mg the following times.
For me it always looked like I just needed to get used to it.
It is similar when I speak to people that use mangesium as laxative. They get used to it really fast and need more - if they use it only for that purpose.

Im not telling you to use that much magnesium. Especially not with PFS and low sodium. But when people write they use 25mg of magnesiumChloride, whcih is only like 3mg of magnesium. (if you overlook bioavailability) I kind of need to laugh :D

I mean you would get more magnesium in 1 almond.

Ya my gut seems to have calmed down, a few days after. I would like to get close to at least ~3.5grams per day, so about the RDI of 400mg elemental magnesium.

Current intake 3 times per day with each meal: 1000mg KCl / 500mg MgCl / 500mg NaCl
 

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Ya my gut seems to have calmed down, a few days after. I would like to get close to at least ~3.5grams per day, so about the RDI of 400mg elemental magnesium.

Current intake 3 times per day with each meal: 1000mg KCl / 500mg MgCl / 500mg NaCl

You will get a big amount of chlorides with all electrolytes in that form^^ But I think thats a good ratio of K:Mg:Na
You dont have a hair test result yet right?
 

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You will get a big amount of chlorides with all electrolytes in that form^^ But I think thats a good ratio of K:Mg:Na
You dont have a hair test result yet right?

Mailed in my hair sample on Feb 9th, just waiting on the results. Sleep has improved much with keeping the MgCl and NaCl together along with KCl.
 

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Im not telling you to use that much magnesium. Especially not with PFS and low sodium. But when people write they use 25mg of magnesiumChloride, whcih is only like 3mg of magnesium. (if you overlook bioavailability) I kind of need to laugh :D

Thanks for your input. You're right - 3mg would be quite funny. The values I post are already calculated down to elemental form. It was 25mg of elemental mag from MgCl2 powder.

The reason i trimmed it down so low is that I had problems waking up when on 50mg elemental.

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2018-02-27

I felt really cold today. My hands got extremely dehydrated + skin turned burn-like red on palms. Balls got better. I'll have enough hair to send it for analysis soon. 

Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2,3
KCl (elemental)     ---   400 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Betaine HCl         ---  1000 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Pine Pollen         ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 2,3
MSM                 ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Vitamin D3          ---  4000 IU       ---  after  meal # 2
Vitamin K2          ---   100 ug       ---  after  meal # 2
MgCl2 (elemental)   ---    25 mg       ---  before bed
Arginine            ---     3 g        ---  before bed
LDN                 ---     1 mg       ---  before bed

mood       :  6/10  I was able to cry and (harder to achieve) laugh. 
libido     :  3/10  Balls feel much fuller and lower.
energy     :  5/10  Not bad. Nothing unusual. Extremely cold nose, hand and feet! 
digestion  :  5/10  Had many that were worse, but many that were better.
 

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2018-02-28

Penis smells more manly (washing habits being the same;)). Increased LDN from 1 to 2mg. Hands are extremely dehydrated. Red areas got bigger.

Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2,3
Potassium Chloride  ---   400 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Betaine HCl         ---  1000 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Pine Pollen         ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 2,3
MSM                 ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Vitamin D3          ---  4000 IU       ---  after  meal # 2
Vitamin K2          ---   100 ug       ---  after  meal # 2
Magnesium Chloride  ---    25 mg       ---  before bed
Arginine            ---     3 g        ---  before bed
LDN                 ---     2 mg       ---  before bed

mood       :  6/10  Few random laughs and tears. Felt like it's not as bad 
libido     :  3/10  Actually had sexual thoughts for a minute. Penis keeps getting better. 
energy     :  5/10  Not bad.
digestion  :  4/10  Stool is watery and unsatysfying
 

health

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2018-03-01

My shit went to shit. Stools got really loose. Must be one of late additions. WPI? Arginine? LDN? betaine? 

I had a rough time today. Figured out, how out of shape i got in 2 months. I'll be back to gym/boxing this week.  
Damn, I was running solely on willpower today. Zero dopamine and serotonine.  

Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2,3
Potassium Chloride  ---   400 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Betaine HCl         ---  1000 mg       ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Pine Pollen         ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 2,3
MSM                 ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 1,2,3
Vitamin D3          ---  4000 IU       ---  after  meal # 2
Vitamin K2          ---   100 ug       ---  after  meal # 2
Magnesium Chloride  ---    25 mg       ---  before bed
Arginine            ---     3 g        ---  before bed
LDN                 ---     2 mg       ---  before bed

mood       :  3/10  I felt down almost whole day 
libido     :  0/10  zero 
energy     :  4/10  Not awful. 
digestion  :  1/10  Watery stool, bloated stomach   :   will ask
 

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2018-03-02

Woke up at 3:30 am. Extreme anxiety for over an hour until i managed to sleep again. Woke up with tones of dandruff on my pubic hair (wtf?). I was depressed for the whole day, could not think of a single silver lining. I think this might be because of LDN. Will skip a dose today and see how I sleep. Skipped betaine and electrolytes too. Too afraid to take anything.
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Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2,3
Pine Pollen         ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 2,3
Vitamin D3          ---  4000 IU       ---  after  meal # 2
Vitamin K2          ---   100 ug       ---  after  meal # 2
Arginine            ---     3 g        ---  before bed

mood       :  1/10 Anxiety, depression + felt down almost whole day
libido     :  0/10  zero
energy     :  2/10 very low
digestion  :  1/10  no stool, bloated
 

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2018-03-02

Woke up at 3:30 am. Extreme anxiety for over an hour until i managed to sleep again. Woke up with tones of dandruff on my pubic hair (wtf?). I was depressed for the whole day, could not think of a single silver lining. I think this might be because of LDN. Will skip a dose today and see how I sleep. Skipped betaine and electrolytes too. Too afraid to take anything.
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Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2,3
Pine Pollen         ---     5 g        ---  after  meal # 2,3
Vitamin D3          ---  4000 IU       ---  after  meal # 2
Vitamin K2          ---   100 ug       ---  after  meal # 2
Arginine            ---     3 g        ---  before bed

mood       :  1/10 Anxiety, depression + felt down almost whole day
libido     :  0/10  zero
energy     :  2/10 very low
digestion  :  1/10  no stool, bloated

If that doesn't fix it, drop the pine pollen too, that stuff gives me anxiety and there are hormones in it
 
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Orion

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Pine Pollen --- 5 g --- after meal # 2,3
Vitamin D3 --- 4000 IU --- after meal # 2
Vitamin K2 --- 100 ug --- after meal # 2
Arginine --- 3 g --- before bed

Drop all the above, food(protein(meat, whey, egg whites), spinach, etc, with betaine(1cap or 1 gram), slowly add the electrolytes, then increase betaine and the Cl's.

pine pollen is full of hormones
 

health

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2018-03-03

Dropped most suplements. Considering LDN with slower advancement (start with 0,5g and increase 0,5 every 2 weeks). Woke up tired, but no anxiety nor depression. Much better stool, but I feel like my metabolism is extremely slow. When i see myself in the mirror, I feel like I broke the world's record in fat gain to muscle mass loss ratio (it all began after 7 day water fast, 2 months ago).
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Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2
Betaine Hcl         ---     1 g        ---  after meal  # 1,2

mood       :  4/10  not bad
libido     :  0/10  zero
energy     :  4/10  not bad 
digestion  :  4/10  ok stool, bloated
 

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2018-03-03

Dropped most suplements. Considering LDN with slower advancement (start with 0,5g and increase 0,5 every 2 weeks). Woke up tired, but no anxiety nor depression. Much better stool, but I feel like my metabolism is extremely slow. When i see myself in the mirror, I feel like I broke the world's record in fat gain to muscle mass loss ratio (it all began after 7 day water fast, 2 months ago).
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Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2
Betaine Hcl         ---     1 g        ---  after meal  # 1,2

mood       :  4/10  not bad
libido     :  0/10  zero
energy     :  4/10  not bad
digestion  :  4/10  ok stool, bloated

You can gain muscle back easy man. Don't sweat it. Just keep going. Try things out. See what makes you feel better and what not.
 

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2018-03-04

Metabolism still slow (cold extremities are killing me). Woke up tired, but no anxiety nor depression. Lost 5 cm in the biceps in 2 months. I'm not insane enough to measure my penis;')

ARL hair test - I'm ordering it from Hair Analysis UK|Nutritional Balancing and Hair Mineral Analysis this week.

I just finished a deep, true conversation with my friend. She confessed she's fighting with a breast cancer. I told her about my issues. Felt ...better.

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Digestive Enzymes   ---     1 capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2
Betaine Hcl         ---     1 g        ---  after meal  # 1,2

mood       :  4/10  not bad
libido     :  0/10  zero
energy     :  5/10  not bad, had some humour
digestion  :  2/10  watery stool, bloated

@RebelWithACause Thank you man. It means a lot to me. I know it's stupid and I'm telling myself that looks are relatively easy to get back once I'll get my health in order. It's just sometimes there are just too many things not right and I need some reinforcement from outside.
 

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2018-03-05

Cold and tired for the whole day. I feel like my digestion got extremely slow. My stomach is pushed out for a long time after meal. I can't feel any warmth due to betaine... Considering dropping it.
Started Inositol and choline.

Code:
Digestive Enzymes   ---     1  capsule  ---  before meal # 1,2
Betaine Hcl         ---     1  g        ---  after meal  # 1,2
Inositol            ---     10  g        ---  before bed
Choline             ---     1  g        ---  before bed

mood       :  4/10  not bad
libido     :  0/10  zero
energy     :  5/10  not bad, had some humour
digestion  :  2/10  watery stool, bloated
 
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2018-03-06

Took @HerrFisch advice (thanks) and went back to KCl. Had a greatconversation with a therapist, with 2 of my female friends on the phone and 2 other friends irl. It wasn't as awful as I could have made it - which is good:')

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Digestive Enzymes   ---       1  capsule   ---   before meal # 1,2,3
KCl                 ---     400 mg         ---   after  meal # 1,2,3
Betaine Hcl         ---       1  g         ---   after  meal # 1,2,3
Inositol            ---       5  g         ---   after  meal # 1,  3
Choline             ---     500 mg         ---   after  meal # 1,  3

mood       :  5/10  not bad
libido     :  0/10  zero
energy     :  6/10  not bad, had some wit when talking to a girl at gym
digestion  :  0/10  watery stool, green and miserable