Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

Admiral

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What about the rest of your protocol electrolytes/bile acids/HCL/Hydrogen/AA/enzymes/malic acid?

Leave all this out while on ARL or TEI?

Yes, definitely yes to Hydrogen water. That messes up your entire hair profile. Don't use that.
HCL, bile acids and enzymes are included in a full ARL program as well, so you won't be needing that. The full ARL program is an alternative to the electrolyte protocol. Dr Wilson mentions that taking extra HCL is okay, though. You should read some of his articles. :)

I am in my second cycle right now. I've toyed with histidine a bit as I was having huge allergies, but I try to use ARL as strict as possible. I really want to add in more amino's but it might create unbalances so I don't. The glandulars posses amino acids themselves. I sometimes add in digestive aids when I am eating big, protein rich meals. Silica to get rid of my aluminium as it also doesn't mess with other minerals and some B-vitamins to start the day. Whenever I work out, do sauna, enema's or sweat heavily I add in extra electrolytes.

Also, I too experience loose stools and sometimes even diarrhea on my second cycle. It's definitely worse than my previous cycle. I went from a slow oxidizer with very dry stools to a fast one with very loose ones. Not sure which mineral or ARL piece this is causing. I remember reading @TubZy's digestion worsened as well during his second cycle and it picked up as he finished that one. Dropping the digestive aids helps a bit. That made it more mushy.
 

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Yes, definitely yes to Hydrogen water. That messes up your entire hair profile. Don't use that.
HCL, bile acids and enzymes are included in a full ARL program as well, so you won't be needing that. The full ARL program is an alternative to the electrolyte protocol. Dr Wilson mentions that taking extra HCL is okay, though. You should read some of his articles. :)

I am in my second cycle right now. I've toyed with histidine a bit as I was having huge allergies, but I try to use ARL as strict as possible. I really want to add in more amino's but it might create unbalances so I don't. The glandulars posses amino acids themselves. I sometimes add in digestive aids when I am eating big, protein rich meals. Silica to get rid of my aluminium as it also doesn't mess with other minerals and some B-vitamins to start the day. Whenever I work out, do sauna, enema's or sweat heavily I add in extra electrolytes.

Also, I too experience loose stools and sometimes even diarrhea on my second cycle. It's definitely worse than my previous cycle. I went from a slow oxidizer with very dry stools to a fast one with very loose ones. Not sure which mineral or ARL piece this is causing. I remember reading @TubZy's digestion worsened as well during his second cycle and it picked up as he finished that one. Dropping the digestive aids helps a bit. That made it more mushy.
@Admiral , do you have pfs?
 

Go_faster_Sonic

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guys, i still do not understand if the following part
PFS Protocol


Finasteride. binds NADPH. NADPH recycles glutathione. lack of glutathione causes complete close of sugar metabolism. Since glutathione is needed to get rid of hydrogen peroxide and glutathione is needed in glutathione transferase to get rid of toxins and drugs, including finasteride. So finasteride stops its own metabolism and I would assume can even build up.

So you need to increase glutathione transferase and also increase NADPH . glutathione transferase has histidine in it. Also it asks tyrosine to activate the glutathione. ,You can take citrulline with b vitamins, vitamin C and E, eat good fats( butter) and take bile acids. and shilagit , also cysteine selenium histidine. Also you can take SOD components, zinc copper manganese. this will metabolize finasteride out of your body.


Finasteride impairs bile flow, and impairs 5 beta reductase.
5 beta reductase makes your bile acids, without bile acids you will have a build up of cholesterol and malabsorption of fats. and mainly phospholipids and you will have bilirubin stones in your gallbladder which completely blocks all your bile flow.

this will cause deficiency of lipids needed for the brain , sex, fat soluble vitamins etc and you will have very thick blood since cholesterol wont be used and wont be disposed off.

This is why I said to do liver flushes all the time. Also you can take bile acids. chenodeoxycholic acid plus cholic acid. 5 beta reductase makes those . These 2 acids will dilute all your stones and let you absorb all the needed lipids from the diet. After years of fin your gallbladder had zero bile acids, means it is solid green mass with very little bile.

Also you need to eat good fats, plus vitamin Bs, since b vitamins make NADPH and NADP those are needed for 5 alpha and 5 beta reductases. Also you can add vitamin C , since cholesterol is converted down the line into 5 beta reductases by vitamin C and NADPH which fin impairs.

https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formu...=1524070039&sr=8-1&keywords=bile+acid+factors

https://www.amazon.com/Allergy-Rese...70118&sr=8-2&keywords=nt+factor+energy+lipids

And vitamin B vitamins plus vitamin C and vitamine E
Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.


Plus flush the liver over and over again. This is the problem in PFS

Delta 4-3-oxosteroid 5 beta-reductase deficiency: failure of ursodeoxycholic acid treatment and response to chenodeoxycholic acid plus cholic acid.

is something to add to the protocols mentioned in this thread (arl/tei, ru/ella, electrolyte, progesterone) or if it stands on its own.ù
i think is very important to clarify this point.
 

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Quick question : To lower serotonin all you have to do is focus on lowering Acetaldehyde? cuz then MAO-A will start working again?
 

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guys, i still do not understand if the following part

is something to add to the protocols mentioned in this thread (arl/tei, ru/ella, electrolyte, progesterone) or if it stands on its own.ù
i think is very important to clarify this point.

he is just explaining the mechanism in a technical way, meaning why certain things aren't working in a PFS state, it doesn't matter what way you address it. ARL/TEI will fix that over time, other protocols could act faster, it just depends dude. Whatever you decide to do just pick one protocol and stick with it (don't mix protocols). For example, don't mix ARL with electrolyte protocol or take RU/ella with ARL etc. just pick one and stay with it.

Just take one protocol. I say just do ARL or TEI first, which I told you step by step how to get started and do. Don't worry about the other stuff yet you are worrying way too about details and as a new member, it will take you a long time to understand. If you truly don't want to do that or can't afford it maybe try electrolyte protocol or CDnuts protocol.
 

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he is just explaining the mechanism in a technical way, meaning why certain things aren't working in a PFS state, it doesn't matter what way you address it. ARL/TEI will fix that over time, other protocols could act faster, it just depends dude. Whatever you decide to do just pick one protocol and stick with it (don't mix protocols). For example, don't mix ARL with electrolyte protocol or take RU/ella with ARL etc. just pick one and stay with it.

Just take one protocol. I say just do ARL or TEI first, which I told you step by step how to get started and do. Don't worry about the other stuff yet you are worrying way too about details and as a new member, it will take you a long time to understand. If you truly don't want to do that or can't afford it maybe try electrolyte protocol or CDnuts protocol.
Thank you for the answer! :)
I'm gonna start something, now i have to decide between tei and cd's.
Btw, in your opinion and experience, what does work faster? i just can't wait to get my life back. "Gotta go fast", Sonic would say.
 

Go_faster_Sonic

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Uh, guys, one (i hope) last question: is arl superior to tei?
a dr. wilson's helper told me so, but i'd prefer your opinion and knowledge.
 

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Three questions in relation to electrolytes protocol for pfs.

1. Is it okay to add the b vitamins in if we have low estrogen?
2. I am having a hard time sourcing folate. Is folic acid okay in its place? Or must it be folate?
3. What is the purpose of adding l-citrulline? I don't see this explained anywhere.

@Helen
 
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two months of diarrhea?

For the first few weeks I didn’t have it. But the last month yes , loose stools and diarrhea often.

First few weeks I wasn’t doing malic acid or hydrogen water. Added those in later. So could have to do with those but who knows. Could also have been something else
 

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Yes, definitely yes to Hydrogen water. That messes up your entire hair profile. Don't use that.
HCL, bile acids and enzymes are included in a full ARL program as well, so you won't be needing that. The full ARL program is an alternative to the electrolyte protocol. Dr Wilson mentions that taking extra HCL is okay, though. You should read some of his articles. :)

I am in my second cycle right now. I've toyed with histidine a bit as I was having huge allergies, but I try to use ARL as strict as possible. I really want to add in more amino's but it might create unbalances so I don't. The glandulars posses amino acids themselves. I sometimes add in digestive aids when I am eating big, protein rich meals. Silica to get rid of my aluminium as it also doesn't mess with other minerals and some B-vitamins to start the day. Whenever I work out, do sauna, enema's or sweat heavily I add in extra electrolytes.

Also, I too experience loose stools and sometimes even diarrhea on my second cycle. It's definitely worse than my previous cycle. I went from a slow oxidizer with very dry stools to a fast one with very loose ones. Not sure which mineral or ARL piece this is causing. I remember reading @TubZy's digestion worsened as well during his second cycle and it picked up as he finished that one. Dropping the digestive aids helps a bit. That made it more mushy.

Back in January the first thing I did was eat the Wilson slow oxidizer diet for 3 or 4 months. Didn’t cure me , but I felt more sustained energy, even when I couldn’t sleep (shitty sleep is one of my core issues, kills me). So that was a big help.

I did a month and a half of ARL but some of that was with hydrogen. Hydrogen at first really did something. Don’t think effects are as strong now.

I think I will switch to TEI since people say that is more gentle? I need gentle now that I am back to work. Was off for a month which is how I was able to start trying/taking things
 

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I prefer ARL myself because it's hard finding good information on nutritional balancing and the info I do find is more directed towards ARL, moreso than TEI IMO. Arltma offers great reads, but mostly the articles of dr Wilson are really awesome and helpful during ones recovery, as you'll have many questions during your path to good health. He even responds to questions you'll have. For one he really condones propecia and mentioned that a full nutritional balancing will help you recover. He has great experiences with the programs removing drugs from their bodies. It should be taken with a grain of salt, though since he works for them, but nonetheless ARL is definitely my choice. Not to mention the rough roads are very individually. I've had a rather easy path so far. Some depression, skin and digestive issues, but none that would jeopardize work or anything. But you'll need to be more committed to ARL. The full program wants you to do enema's, infrared sauna's, mindfulness and eat a shit load of vegetables each day (70/80% of your meals). Disagree on some of his weird views though; he thinks gyms are hell. Places that lead to rape. You'll filter that out yourself.
 

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I prefer ARL myself because it's hard finding good information on nutritional balancing and the info I do find is more directed towards ARL, moreso than TEI IMO. Arltma offers great reads, but mostly the articles of dr Wilson are really awesome and helpful during ones recovery, as you'll have many questions during your path to good health. He even responds to questions you'll have. For one he really condones propecia and mentioned that a full nutritional balancing will help you recover. He has great experiences with the programs removing drugs from their bodies. It should be taken with a grain of salt, though since he works for them, but nonetheless ARL is definitely my choice. Not to mention the rough roads are very individually. I've had a rather easy path so far. Some depression, skin and digestive issues, but none that would jeopardize work or anything. But you'll need to be more committed to ARL. The full program wants you to do enema's, infrared sauna's, mindfulness and eat a shit load of vegetables each day (70/80% of your meals). Disagree on some of his weird views though; he thinks gyms are hell. Places that lead to rape. You'll filter that
out yourself.

I like to read wilsons site, got some good ideas from it adjusted to my case. The cooked vegetables with every meal is helping me out a lot, I just add some fat and a little carbs to the meals and it gives me a great sustainable energy, not that instant push I got in the past from high carb meals and now it doesnt feel im burning out.
He imagines the ideal life as a bit too gentle, but dont have to follow every word of him.
I will go with arl as well, after this water fast my body chemistry stabilized somewhat.
 

Go_faster_Sonic

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I prefer ARL myself because it's hard finding good information on nutritional balancing and the info I do find is more directed towards ARL, moreso than TEI IMO. Arltma offers great reads, but mostly the articles of dr Wilson are really awesome and helpful during ones recovery, as you'll have many questions during your path to good health. He even responds to questions you'll have. For one he really condones propecia and mentioned that a full nutritional balancing will help you recover. He has great experiences with the programs removing drugs from their bodies. It should be taken with a grain of salt, though since he works for them, but nonetheless ARL is definitely my choice. Not to mention the rough roads are very individually. I've had a rather easy path so far. Some depression, skin and digestive issues, but none that would jeopardize work or anything. But you'll need to be more committed to ARL. The full program wants you to do enema's, infrared sauna's, mindfulness and eat a shit load of vegetables each day (70/80% of your meals). Disagree on some of his weird views though; he thinks gyms are hell. Places that lead to rape. You'll filter that out yourself.
And he writes articles about gnomes and fairies. And this infrared sauna.... Dunnow. Btw bruschi got damage from that water.
 

Admiral

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Dude stop being so fucking pessimistic and get on a protocol. Stop busting our balls with your negative behavior every time we try to help you.
 

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@Helen
And vitamin B vitamins plus vitamin C and vitamine E
Bs ratios. 600 mg of thiamin HCL, 500 mg of B5, 100-200 mg of b6 and 250-500 mg of niacinamide, along with 3-10 mg folate and some B12 to balance out 100 mg of riboflavin.


Can you clarify dosages for the vitamin C and E, also the B12 as well? Those are the only dosages that are not listed and this is a frequent question I get.